BF2S Forums Two things i would like to talk about.

voltage wrote:

IMO:
spawn camping: attacking a CP without trying to take it
base raping: attacking an uncappable.

"Spawn raping"? Sounds like an attempt to make the former mean the same as latter.

There's a major difference, on many servers baseraping is not allowed, but I've never heard of a server where spawn camping is not allowed. Many players that will complain about baseraping have no issues with spawn camping, it's the symbol on the map that makes the difference. Perhaps uncap raping is a better term...

I've played on a server where, so it seemed, spawn camping was not allowed.  I had some guy bitching about me killing him twice in a row (more coincidental than anything, guy spawned in the same spot while I'm shooting at others).  He was complaining to the admin about me.  Mind you, I'd played at least a couple rounds against this guy, we'd killed each other a bunch of times and he starts whining on a mere coincidence.  Funny as hell.

If a pilot flies me to the TV station and infantry are spawning left and right, I'm not exactly gonna not shoot to "give them a chance"

I'm making sure that they see the respawn screen more than they do actual game play.

Nathor wrote:

I don't tend to get upset about baseraping, I simply see it as a bit of a failure by EA to make it so that Uncaps (such as the essex) are so difficult to defend. On Wake or Dragon Valley, if the MEC/Chineese team are on their game, there's no way to get off the boat/island easily while being "raped" on the carrier because the combo of Air Power, Arty and a few ground based snipers/armour/infantry make it almost impossible to get off the boat.

Yeah, it's such an old argument, there must be some way to simply remove the issue. Perhaps not having uncaps at all. I guess half the community would fall dead if there was no baserape issue to discuss though .

niomosy wrote:

I've played on a server where, so it seemed, spawn camping was not allowed.  I had some guy bitching about me killing him twice in a row (more coincidental than anything, guy spawned in the same spot while I'm shooting at others).  He was complaining to the admin about me.  Mind you, I'd played at least a couple rounds against this guy, we'd killed each other a bunch of times and he starts whining on a mere coincidence.  Funny as hell.

He needs thicker skin, perhaps he was a beginner.

What often looks like spawn camping is probably an honest attempt to take the flag. Any good player knows to wait for backup before he goes in, and if that backup fails to come you'll end up staying there for a while. Sometimes you reach an enemy CP alone, while they coincidently loose all other flags and suddenly enemies pop up everywhere and you can't drive an inch before more enemies spawn. Repeatedly you think "ok, now it's cool, now I go for the flag" and then even more enemies appear.