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2021-12-19 19:13:21
unnamednewbie13
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It is a very weird comeback though mac. NB makes and markets shoes with gendered sizing and category once you get out of various children's sizing.

Here's a men's 990:
https://nb.scene7.com/is/image/NB/m990gl5_nb_02_i?$pdpflexf2$&fmt=webp&wid=472&hei=472


Here's a women's 990:
https://nb.scene7.com/is/image/NB/w990gl5_nb_02_i?$pdpflexf2$&fmt=webp&wid=472&hei=472


If a dude sized up the women's 990 to wear around, would you even be able to tell the difference? If you somehow had the supernatural means to, would that make you as fashion-headed as the very men some people on this forum think are so gay for it? Even if zeek was some metrosexual fashionisto, you've already claimed that you've grown as a person and are supportive of people who break gender normative.

Some of you here espouse fairly liberal values at times, but add a wifebeater and a couple decades and you'd be pretty indistinguishable from those boomers who are all like "how can they work those washing machines? So many buttons, I have no idea what I'm doing, just can't. Must be a woman to figure it out."
Huh? The men's and women's shoe are the same shoe. Therefore, it is a woman's shoe.
It's a unisex shoe, mac. Gym, running, tennis shoes, whatever you want to call them, unisex shoes. In the 990's case, there's hardly a scrap of difference between the two photos I posted. Worn on a human foot and spotted in the wild, I don't think you would ever be able to tell the difference.

It's not even like zeek is wearing high heels like an anime villain, but tall heels too used to be men's fashion.
2021-12-19 19:20:07
unnamednewbie13
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No seriously, let's play man shoe or woman shoe out of the Nike catalog:

https://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/6aa69d48-e4a7-4e8b-b074-958bc7afcbd9/lebron-18-low-bugs-vs-marvin-basketball-shoes-bC7rKB.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/d315aaaa-9e05-4bcb-aa95-7e3e0c8c3eb9/air-zoom-pegasus-38-shield-womens-weatherized-road-running-shoes-Fpm6ML.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/8e25b6e2-9415-4cdc-925b-7bed15985609/pegasus-trail-3-gore-tex-mens-waterproof-trail-running-shoes-wrXM7J.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/8c210c5e-0fa3-4491-8a88-3981f8761176/space-hippie-04-mens-shoes-gGWDLk.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/d71ff065-18e9-481a-8d02-1b694331eda9/react-escape-run-womens-road-running-shoes-fgl8l1.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/10bad0b9-abd3-47e2-8fc0-1323d2f6a3f2/air-force-1-pixel-womens-shoe-3qrstC.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/d9e1a650-162c-4d38-8cb6-a5241d7fc903/air-max-270-mens-shoes-KkLcGR.pnghttps://static.nike.com/a/images/t_PDP_864_v1/f_auto,b_rgb:f5f5f5/14dda697-aaf5-48fb-b95f-dde942aec8c7/superrep-cycle-womens-indoor-cycling-shoes-tMMfR6.png


How many did you get right without cheating?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
men's
women's
men's
men's
women's
women's
men's
women's
2021-12-19 19:22:06
Dilbert_X
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Everyone is gay now, none of this matters.
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2021-12-19 19:28:23
SuperJail Warden
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There's no such thing as a unisex shoe. Is this a unisex suit?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/98/da/b698da95ae41ae04d187f0bbbd9da06b.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2021-12-19 19:55:43
unnamednewbie13
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Very bad comparison and super bizarre hill to die on, mac.

Are there phds in mixology? You should have been a bartender:

https://i.imgur.com/dO9ACmP.png

e: Young Frankenstein vibes on that name. Handle?

https://media.makeameme.org/created/abby-something-abby.jpg

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2021-12-19 21:07:13
unnamednewbie13
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Match the shoe to the gender, macbeth. Can you even do it without peeking at the answer key?
2021-12-19 23:02:37
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

I'm sure there are some differences between a US education-focused PhD and the sort of faggy waste-of-life euro-PhD uziq is talking about.

Just think, Dr Macbeth PhD will be smarter than uziq.
doctorates are self-directed research. you have to write a large thesis at the end of several years of project work or independent research.

there are differences between science PhDs and humanities PhDs, but both are about research rather than taking exams and passing courses. except for an introductory year of seminars, there is very little teaching; they are ‘self-directed’.

the main difference between research doctorates taken in the US and in the U.K./EU is the time to completion. that’s because in the US, doctoral students are also encouraged to teach, lead seminars, attend conferences, etc, as part of their professional development. it’s also a good resource for university departments to shuffle the mule work onto. US students can’t focus exclusively on their own work and rather have to mark first-year undergraduate essays, etc.

Education probably is less academically rigorous and weaker on actual scholarship than a humanities degree, you’re right. but still, asking about it on a gaming forum rather than having a solid idea of what you want to research is probably not the best indication that someone is ready to take the highest level of formal academic qualification in their field.
2021-12-19 23:30:44
Dilbert_X
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I know two people with PhDs, one in nuclear fuel calorimetry from imperial, the other in garbage dump design from the local tech college.

I imagine they aren't directly comparable, still worthwhile stretching your brain and getting ahead of ones smooth-brained colleagues.
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2021-12-19 23:38:01
uziq
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if teaching and education PhD's are specifically professional, and not like academic PhDs, then why the fuck is the career teacher asking us?
2021-12-20 01:29:16
Dilbert_X
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Who knows?

The beforetimes are over, we're into the endgame now, anything is possible.
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2025-05-08 08:22:45
SuperJail Warden
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Finished 2nd MAT. Got a bonus at work for it.

I feel a little lost now. I don't want to do a doctorate but I also don't know the next major project to take on.

...

I feel the colleges desperately need reforms to their practices and structures. I don't expect Trump kicking the colleges for AnTiSeMItIsM to improve things at all. But to complete a doctorate in education at Rutgers you will have to pay between $65,000 to $80,000. A life changing sum of debt to take on.

What really irks me is how the program is structured. Cohort based meaning you need to stick with the same group as you progress through the program. You fail a class or have to drop one you get bounced from the program. It is a 5 year incredibly expensive commitment. And there is very little flexibility.

Uzique wrote:

A Doctorate shouldn't be easy or flexible. If you want to call yourself a doctor you need to make a big commitment.
I understand it should be a big commitment but it is unfair to ask people to spend tremendous amounts of money on a degree and then make the program onerous. It is going to cause people to just disengage which seems to be what is happening across the entire higher education system.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-05-08 09:52:57
uziq
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doctorates are really flexible, and easier to find funding for in Education than most 'pure' research subjects. you could probably even find an employer somewhere who would sponsor a doctorate like that (perhaps not the state education system, but still, enough inducements and incentives are thrown people's way to train to become teachers in the first place).

having a cohort is probably tied into the fact that you're doing Education. semi-professionalised and standardised, i would guess.

the american doctoral system is pretty stupid in comparison to the european/british one in that people have to spend years doing coursework and sitting in classrooms. that's stuff for undergraduate in our system. the american major/minor system just means your undergraduate education is way too broad and unfocused. especially with all the gaming of the system that young people do nowadays, leavening their degrees with 'popular' choices and easy credits rather than spending their bachelor's as they should be spent, wrestling with and grasping fundamentals. half of an american PhD is basically doing coursework and catch-up so that you can even embark on independent research (i.e. a thesis). not very efficient. still, the system seems to be great at turning out fratbros and sorority chicks.

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2025-05-08 11:56:54
SuperJail Warden
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I would have to look into funding but I am not confident. The cuts to education in the U S. are real and deep. A lot of schools in NJ are straight up closing. My school is tightening things up. Disater zone of none renewals and cancelled programs here in my district. Spoiler (highlight to read):
25 none renewals. Mostly Title 1 (A program for low income students) and guidance counselors/social workers/therapist. All of the Social Emotional Learning stuff we have been doing for years is gone. After school programs like swimming, wrestling, etc. have been cancelled. After graduation trip was cancelled. Junior Prom cancelled. We could only send half the students to a state history competition. Only hired half the chaperones for prom. Summer school program scaled back. Security jobs reduced etc. And this is just getting started.
...

To your point about the dysfunction of our system...I don't want to do more research papers, zoom meetings, and discussion boards. I have a ton of experience project managing. I truly rather do that than read Dewey again.

Perhaps people are right about doctors of education not having relevant experience and training to manage education.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-05-08 13:20:24
uziq
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in the UK, if you specifically want to become a headteacher/principal or someone high up in the administrative side of things, there are highly specific qualifications you can do towards that goal, normally things like PgDips (i.e. shorter, highly focused postgraduate diplomas). a PhD, even in a sort of soft crossover subject like Education, is still mostly about the big piece of research, and the workaday academic labour of conferences, presentations, papers, etc.

if you just want to ascend into project managerdom, why not just pursue those sorts of qualifications? you definitely don't need a PhD to project manage in any organisation at any level.
2025-05-08 14:25:08
SuperJail Warden
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In the U.S. we have Ed.D. Jill Biden has one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Education

It is different than a PhD which is supposed to be more research based like you said. The degree I just finished gave me the qualifications to take the principal and supervisor exam. You don't need a Ed.D to become a principal or even superintendent. So I got that handled.

Thinking it over... getting a Ed.D is probably just vanity in this case. It is expensive, time consuming, and doesn't provide meaningful skills. You could probably say that about a lot of higher education which is really damning. Inflexible system that you need to pay a lot of money to participate in. Never again.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-05-08 14:36:06
uziq
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i see those sorts of qualifications as things to get if you want to access the upper echelons in your stride (i.e. late 40s and 50s). certain very most senior rungs will probably be barred from you even if the topmost qualification isn't all that relevant. it's a sign of seriousness and expertise.

for e.g. the CEO of my publishing company has a PhD in science. definitely not necessary for any sort of publishing director or c-suite role. probably wasn't what she was even thinking of when she took a PhD and did a bunch of scientific research in her 20s. but it's rare to see anyone at that level of the organisation without one. hell, it's the new normal to have a master's in any 'respected' or 'traditional' graduate role now. (i know the US treats 'terminal' 1/2 year masters very differently too.)

(and yeah, obviously a whole bunch of people lower down the rungs have PhDs in academic publishing. they are directly relevant to the editorial/commissioning side of things. even including things like networking and knowledge of the field in a reputational sense. but the very senior organisational roles don't actually require that sort of nous.)

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2025-05-09 03:20:19
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

What really irks me is how the program is structured. Cohort based meaning you need to stick with the same group as you progress through the program. You fail a class or have to drop one you get bounced from the program. It is a 5 year incredibly expensive commitment. And there is very little flexibility.
That sounds like a scam and closed shop TBH.

You could do something completely from left field, coding for example.
Aren't the cool kids all doing coding?
Some non Ed.D thing which still gets you the D.
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2025-05-09 03:37:03
uziq
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haha at recommending coding jobs in 2025.

dilbert is still living in the world where engineering and computer science are Best Picks.

coding is literally the first thing to be replaced by LLMs. the rest are indian h1’s doing drudge work for 40% less than an american.

all the big tech companies have drastically thinned out their workforce since the years of covid fattening.

it’s like recommending someone go to law school in the 90s. yeah, you’ve just been telling every single young person in the country to do that for the last 10 years (and denigrating any other choices). i think they’re good.

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2025-05-09 06:48:46
Dilbert_X
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OK well I'm out of ideas.
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2025-05-09 06:53:05
uziq
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https://preview.redd.it/tech-job-postings-in-the-us-dont-let-a-graph-like-this-one-v0-ocxsvz36rehc1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=2636a33ebfb16ab5dd17511db1e22a9e2a9017ee

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Top-Companies-by-H1-B-Visas-in-2024_website_Jan10.jpg

"go into tech".

there's nothing wrong with his present course of action. except he doesn't need a PhD in education.

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2025-05-09 15:19:29
SuperJail Warden
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I wouldn't want to go into tech. I prefer my unionized job in my little liberal bubble. Hang out with lady teachers all day. Why would I want to work with a bunch of nerdy men in an office?
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-05-09 16:41:08
uziq
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https://x.com/zenahitz/status/192095342 … 7OKnIcMVqg

the fact that the era of shit-eating STEM geeks lording it over everyone has come to an abrupt end because they invented a technology that made them obsolescent is so funny.

if any of them actually read, they could probably appreciate the irony in this situation. it has real narrative potential. something fable-like about it.

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2025-05-12 03:08:34
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

I wouldn't want to go into tech. I prefer my unionized job in my little liberal bubble. Hang out with lady teachers all day. Why would I want to work with a bunch of nerdy men in an office?
You don't have to go into tech, you just want the doctorate to put on your business card, no-one has to know what its in.
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