Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

just so ridiculously dumb and historically illiterate.

was apartheid south africa an example of 'how whites behave when they get their own colony'?

how about the history of prussia? wow, scary how whites act when they get 'military dominance!'

your ahistorical ranting, and your essentialising of 'the jews', is just the literal textbook definition of racism/discrimination. it is dumb, actually! you can criticise israel without needing to resort to these spurious, unhinged, irrational arguments!

Do I need to post the video of Netanyahu ranting about Amaleks again?
leaving aside the fact that people use rhetoric and metaphors when they talk, and granted that there are religious fundamentalists in this world (and a high concentration of them in present-day israel, certainly), you don't have to respond in kind to these arguments. frame them for what they are: a politico-religious ideology that needs to be debunked. ranting against the jews and using as a reason 'they killed jesus' is just ridiculous. you don't need to counter fundamentalism with fundamentalism, actually.
My point was jews killing jesus is why christians have a beef with jews, do try to keep up.

If the argument is 'well it happened 2,000 years ago, get over it' then the same argument can be applied to the jews being defeated and accepting exile from Palestine.
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uziq
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what christians have a beef with jews in those terms today? it's 2025. the last time christians based their view of jews on the 'killing of christ' was germany, 1943.

you ranting with these ye olde timey anti-semitic talking points is deeply weird. the most dominant current in christian theology today is evangelism, from america to brazil to korea – and they love the jews. you citing the supposed christian enmity against jews when ranting just paints you as a deluded kook. your average jew or christian in the UK today, for example, does not pay any fucking moment to this stuff. it's you.

mentioning all this crap in the context of the genocide in gaza is obscene. it's like justifying your feelings over the srebrenica massacre by citing the battle of kosovo from 1389 or something. what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic! an ethno-nationalist state doing military occupation and ethnic cleansing in 2025 can be protested and repudiated in perfectly secular, legal terms, without recourse to all this fucking anti-semitic nonsense.
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

this is the guy who's like "racism is 50 years done, get over it" talking about how actually it's not hard to get why someone harbors a 2000yo grudge conveniently leveled against jews (but not romans).
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I only watched 4 episodes of the Last of Us. It was fine but I knew how the game went (that I never played) and couldn't sit through the show since I knew how it all ends.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYWI3ODJlMzktY2U5NC00ZjdlLWE1MGItNWQxZDk3NWNjN2RhXkEyXkFqcGc@._V1_.jpg
I think the narrative of the 2nd game and season is actually quite clever. But I agree with everyone that Bella Ramsey isn't pleasant to look at.
https://media.them.us/photos/653a9d6b61338b10f5c5d9cc/3:4/w_960,h_1280,c_limit/bella-ramsey.jpg
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Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

mentioning all this crap in the context of the genocide in gaza is obscene. it's like justifying your feelings over the srebrenica massacre by citing the battle of kosovo from 1389 or something. what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic! an ethno-nationalist state doing military occupation and ethnic cleansing in 2025 can be protested and repudiated in perfectly secular, legal terms, without recourse to all this fucking anti-semitic nonsense.
Meanwhile the jews are using your 'pre-historic myths' as justification for what they are doing now.
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uziq
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stuff like this just makes you realise, most emphatically, why our supposedly 'enlightened', 'rational', 'high-IQ galaxy brain' STEM peers really could benefit from the fucking most basic humanities training.

like, their ability to analyse and interpret world events, to historicise them and place them in context in a proportional and properly weighted way, or to perceive the sociopolitical or ideological subtexts of people's views – all totally nonexistent. they just grasp at isolated factoids or cite random data they read somewhere, a grab bag with zero coherence.

nobody gets up one morning and decides to go delete an entire neighbourhood, or get up close to the whites of another human being's eyes, and murder them in cold blood because 'oh, my people suffered humiliation in defeat at the battle of vienna in 1683!' that's not how it fucking works. there's always a proximate material cause close at hand. religious or tribal conflict is often explicable in the most worldy way, via simple materialist analysis or by application of a little empirical thinking. this is like high-school history, not grad-school PhD humanities. dilbert isn't so dumb as to not know this stuff; he just likes being obtuse and saying random shit about 'jews and christians' so that he can continue with his ingrown toenail hatreds. see the sartre photo above.

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uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

mentioning all this crap in the context of the genocide in gaza is obscene. it's like justifying your feelings over the srebrenica massacre by citing the battle of kosovo from 1389 or something. what the fuck are you talking about, you lunatic! an ethno-nationalist state doing military occupation and ethnic cleansing in 2025 can be protested and repudiated in perfectly secular, legal terms, without recourse to all this fucking anti-semitic nonsense.
Meanwhile the jews are using your 'pre-historic myths' as justification for what they are doing now.
learn to read between the lines man. i swear to god. you need to take a course or something.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ideology/#VarIdeCri

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Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

nobody gets up one morning and decides to go delete an entire neighbourhood, or get up close to the whites of another human being's eyes, and murder them in cold blood because 'oh, my people suffered humiliation in defeat at the battle of vienna in 1683!' that's not how it fucking works.
Thats literally exactly what 'Israelis' have been doing in Palestine for the last 120 years.

Plus the biblical stuff which is either:

Myth and no justification for anything

or

Historical fact in which case they stole Palestine in the first place and have 6,000 years of genocide to atone for

In fact its myth or fact depending on what suits them at the time.

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Dilbert_X
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On topic - ish:

Watching 'Ancient Black Ops' TV series.

The ones about the Assassins and Spartans were OK.

Learned a lot from the Sicarii.
On the one hand it seems the bit in 'The Life of Bryan' about the suicide squad had some basis in fact.
On the other its interesting that Foxtel is screening documentaries which equate jewish 'freedom fighters' with Al Qaeda and the Israeli occupation of Palestine with the bloody Roman occupation.
Poor Murdoch must be spinning in his grave.
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uziq
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amazing how strongly you feel about zionism but evidently don’t know the first thing about 19th century history and the very real material circumstances that went into its founding.

rather than discuss anything substantive you just cite anti-semitic tropes about blood libel and old testament mythology. as if that’s the actual substance of the ethno-state today. as if that’s really what netanyahu believes.

you are dumb. the ‘core’ of zionist ideology and the people who formulated and promulgated it wasn’t a bunch of stuff about the amaleks. ffs

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Dilbert_X
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So why is Netanyahu invoking the Amalek as an excuse to annihilate the Palestinians and steal their land?
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