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2025-06-02 02:26:12
uziq
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actually, considering your near-paranoiac proclivity to see 'the jews' behind all things, i'm not sure the psychedelic experience is for you.

it will be less '4D chess' and more a permanent game of 'where's wally?', if wally was a jew in a trench-coat with a hook nose and a villainous rictus grin. 'where's scholem?'

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2025-06-02 02:27:40
uziq
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Dilbert_X wrote:

SuperJail Warden wrote:

"Respect" is a word that I retired from my vocabulary. Rambling about being disrespected reminds me of working class Italians, Irish, and minorities. And not in a good way.
The other words I have retired are "logic" and "reason." Rhetorical nonsense words.
Its always the same people demanding 'respick', sub-average thugs who give no-one respect or do anything to earn it but have an expectation that they should receive it.
i mean, when coded as 'respeck', maybe. but the english practically turned deference into a professional sport.
2025-06-02 03:02:33
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

i mean, when coded as 'respeck', maybe. but the english practically turned deference into a professional sport.
Not so much sport, the whole class system.
it will be less '4D chess' and more a permanent game of 'where's wally?', if wally was a jew in a trench-coat with a hook nose and a villainous rictus grin. 'where's scholem?'
That would be fine too, as long as I can do it much better than everyone else - thats how I'll get the respect I deserve.
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2025-06-02 07:03:26
SuperJail Warden
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Iowa Republican Sen. Joni Ernst faced intense questioning from her constituents during a Friday town hall, eliciting shouts and boos from community members over her support for President Trump's contentious One Big Beautiful Bill Act. One dismissive comment drew particularly intense ire: In response to constituents' concerns over Medicaid cuts, Ernst said, "We all are going to die."

The next day, the senator doubled down on her comments in a sarcastic apology video posted to social media. In the video, she appears to be speaking from the grounds of a cemetery.
Absolutely based. Give those working class Iowans what they truly desire: death in service of low taxes.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-02 07:18:30
uziq
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she at least put her finger on the pulse (so to speak) of the death-drive that seems to be intrinsic to so much fringe right politics thesedays. it's a politics of thanatos.
2025-06-02 07:42:30
SuperJail Warden
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A lot of right-wingers truly rather die than live in a society that isn't totally in line with their warped version of conservativism.

And that is very cucked. Even if society isn't reflective of your narrow cultural taste you can still live a happy life.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-02 07:46:28
uziq
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not to mention the fact that the ideologues and people funding all this fringe right politics literally want to defeat death. like that billionaire guy who has undergone a radical health transformation, involving blood and plasma transfusions from his own son, to 'de-age' and 'min max' his health metrics. the weird transhumanist intersection between tech bros and modern medicine.

i believe it was walter benjamin or elias canetti or someone or other during the peak of the 1930s who said that all despots ultimately want to live forever. that's why they pile the bodies high, or shovel more trainloads into the furnaces. it's a giant sacrifice to ever extend their own power - ultimately sublimated as the wish to escape death altogether.

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2025-06-02 08:05:35
SuperJail Warden
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The "live forever" tech people are experiencing fear linked to their own philosophy and worldview. The whole New Atheism and dunking on fundamentalist stuff was a lot of fun back in the day but as you age and the adults of your youth start dropping like flies, suddenly death is scary and must be avoided.

I think the whole "have 14 kids" thing is rooted in the same fear. 'Leave a legacy through your kids' stuff is what you do when you reach the age where your life fantasies of becoming Alexander the Great or whatever just isn't going to happen.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-02 08:18:53
uziq
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there is definitely something egomaniacal about having dozens of children via artificial insemination and not intending to be richly emotionally involved in all/any of their lives. it's basically just narcissistic, tied to some vague race-war helter skelter stuff about the future of humanity.
2025-06-02 08:43:25
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I think Musk likes the idea of tying these girls down and ruining their lives/bodies with kids. "The very masculine urge to hurt a woman to impress men."

...

The worst thing about racism is the hypocrisy. It is annoying that a white guy could be rewarded for behavior that would get me punished. For example, a white guy could dress like a slob and people will call him eccentric and focused on 'what really matters'.
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/221117085123-04-sam-bankman-fried-ftx-file-restricted.jpg?c=original
Meanwhile I get stared at by old ladies in diners if I am not in a dress shirt and tie.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/toM4YvZFFvo/maxresdefault.jpg
Same thing with Elon Musk and his kids. He can have 15 of them and not be in their lives at all. Conservatives will look past that or even celebrate it in certain circumstances. Meanwhile a black guy could put one kid into a girl and people will act like he committed a crime against humanity.

Fuck all that. Fuck Elon's kids and baby mothers too.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-02 09:45:55
uziq
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gsc2SCnXgAAMtKE?format=jpg&name=large

this profile of yarvin in the new yorker is just so funny. so many gold moments. he’s literally dilbert with his dipshit ideas about letting experts and ‘titans of industry’ run society like a fiefdom of STEM high-IQ nobility.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GscbFWHWgAAjuEN?format=jpg&name=large

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2025-06-02 10:19:24
SuperJail Warden
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Did you ever notice how it is strangely the bookish university types flirting with fascism and these alternative political systems? It is like they learned the wrong lessons from how fascism and communism came to power, you know war veterans and disaffected workers acting as crash test dummies for people dick deep into boring party politics.

But no one wants to do boring party meetings and putting together projects / event planning etc.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-02 18:41:35
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while russia's bomber fleet is on fire, trump reposts some nat'l enquirer level shit about clone biden.
2025-06-03 00:20:00
uziq
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Some people don't think Yarvin is important. They are wrong. But his value is not in his genius, which does not exist. He's the guy who says what fascist billionaires want to hear. Their embrace of the *ideas* he spouts — despite his unhinged persona — is the scary part.

Those ideas:
- Replace democracy with corporate dictatorship
- Total surveillance society
- Erasure of human rights
-Eugenics
Are a pressing threat 2025.

Despite being a guy with a "grand theory" of politics, Yarvin — like many of his billionaire acolytes — has zero knowledge of basic politics.

Yarvin is not the brain. He is the soul. Yarvin is who these men are on their deepest level: aggrieved nerds with a limitless desire for revenge and power. The only difference between Andreessen, Thiel and Yarvin is that Yarvin is not a billionaire.
seriously … who does this remind you of??

even down to the same constant ranting about ‘the cathedral’ of establishment snobs and bureaucrats. he’s like dominic cummings v2, with his 13,000 word diatribes about whitehall mandarins and the deep english state.

amazing how many times we have to see these people’s feet are made of clay before the angry nerds actually get it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GscvbSsa8AAQkE-?format=png&name=large

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2025-06-04 03:10:13
Dilbert_X
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You keep droning on about how great democracy is while ignoring that it consistently delivers terrible leaders and terrible results.

Trump, Johnson, Brexit, Hitler etc - are these indications of a working system?

If a machine consistently produces shit an engineer would look at whether the input is shit, the operation is shit, or the machine is shit, or the whole idea in the first place is shit.

Shit input - does it make sense to let peons decide what happens by majority vote? Half the population is below average intelligence, does letting them have a say in things make sense? See Brexit.

Shit operation - should people unqualified to be in government - through ignorance, stupidity, corruption, greed, being jewish etc be allowed in govt?

Shit machine - most democracies have shitty systems which don't really work, first past the post, wealth and corporations buying seats, appointed second chambers, no barriers to corruption etc.

Shit concept - is there actually a lot of point in having a govt which costs a fortune, spends inefficiently and does not represent the best in interests of the country as a whole?

So we're left with testing patriotism by firing people out of tubes or a council of altruistic STEM megabrains, such as myself, who can either cooperate without a President or who can elect the best of them to lead, such as myself.

Once climate change really gets going there's going to be no realistic alternative if humanity wants to survive.
But then it doesn't and there we are.
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2025-06-04 04:14:58
uziq
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populism is clearly not a sign of democracy in rude health. where have i ever said that democracy is going swimmingly? it has 10,000 problems, inequality and commitment to a rigged economic system chief among them. i just ... don't think letting a bunch of airline pilots run the cabinet or rescinding all control to engineers who are good at CAD is the solution to that ... ? not very complicated, dilbert.

also, lmao: "trump, boris, brexit, hitler". you really do need to start reading books outside of that 6 year period, man. talk about literature instruction supposedly being an exhausting and inane repetition of 'wot the author from 1865 meant'. you relate every single historical event or phenomenon to nazi bloody germany.

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2025-06-04 04:31:15
Dilbert_X
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I'm sure pre-WW2 everything went great then?

i just ... don't think letting a bunch of airline pilots run the cabinet or rescinding all control to engineers who are good at CAD is the solution to that
Well I'm not hearing any better ideas.

Democracy invariably leads to populism - how can it not?

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2025-06-04 04:46:55
uziq
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"invariably" leads to populism? i think that sort of linear, teleological narrative is stupid and naive. there's no 'invariable' about it. populism – like fascism – is a recurring phenomenon waiting in the wings for whenever conditions are ripe for them to appear. there's no arcing narrative from 'democracy' to 'populist demagoguery'. this is something that has to be confronted and managed with each new situation and in response to ever-changing conditions. a well-functioning democracy is a bit like a garden of the ancients, an epicurean affair of moderation and constant tending. if you stop caring for the parterres and walkways, the weeds of populism flourish. there's nothing 'inevitable' about it, any more than there was an assurance of a 1000-year reich.

the material conditions which created nazi germany in the 1930s may have some similarities and parallels to now, but they are ultimately the conditions of 1933 and not 2023. the great depression may have something of the same looming importance as the 2008 GFC, but we live in extremely different times when you consider the technology, the geopolitical environment, the party-political system, etc. comparing bojo or trump to hitler is only of extremely limited, and mostly rhetorical, utility.

e: an on-cue piece of toozeianism on this topic.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gsito2DXMAA_W1i?format=png&name=900x900

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2025-06-04 06:50:24
Dilbert_X
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Maybe we're in the proto-state which lead to the plutocracies of pre-revolution France and Russia
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2025-06-04 07:56:06
uziq
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much has been written about techno-feudalism. advanced post-industrial economies in the west have reverted to a sort of rentierism rather than productive gains or growth. but those sort of changes are pretty well being spear-headed by the class you keep saying would do a better job: a coalition of nerds and billionaires.
2025-06-04 08:21:40
SuperJail Warden
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I don't want to be one of those conservatives who are like "there will always be winner and losers in every society." I rather watch society spiral into nothingness than carry water for conservatives.

But...in the countries we all come from, the vast majority of citizens can live productive and fulfilling lives if they put in the hard work. And the effort to better the lower classes can be better spent improving ones own economic standing. That is why so many left leaning people eventually "sell out." Why spend time trying to help the lumpenproletariat and resentful working class when you instead could stack money, prestige, and material objects? You got to give capitalism some credit. It adapts incredibly well.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-04 09:30:30
uziq
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that picture is changing pretty rapidly with each new advancing generation. and when the population pyramid shift fully locks into place, you will feel really rather different again.

for boomers, social mobility was a thing. as were promises of retirements at a reasonable age, following a stable working life, an affordable home and family, etc. not to mention the pension pots and asset prices zooming to the moon in lockstep with the space race. that doesn't apply to anyone born after, say, 1985.

people are right to feel pessimistic now that the world is locked into a chain reaction of spiralling temperatures, costs, and negative externalities. all thanks to boomers riding the wave and leaving the backwash for future generations. these people spent about four decades prevaricating and procrastinating over the very real problems facing everyone today, like a cliff-face.

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2025-06-04 17:17:21
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i feel more generous to the boomers back when they were protested the vietnam war than when they became just another generation of reagan supporters. boomers who voted for democrats in the 80s get mad at this, like it's a personal attack, but the numbers just don't look good. boomers who voted for reagan and are now blue or blue-leaning get mad at this, but it doesn't change the fact that they still voted for reagan. stay mad. the default emotion of the talk-radio-, ominously-right-leaning-blog enjoyer.

there's this weird bundle of self-proclaimed social progressives among boomers i know who still cling to the red team with the torque fans employ on no-hoper baseball teams. they can't quite articulate their reasoning, except "gas," whatever that means. "but i told my gay niece or trans nephew it's ok to be themselves!" you're not a good 'ally' when selecting candidates based on the ghost's fart of an empty promise of 10-cent savings on unleaded regular, sorry.

to the boomer who dropped news of their trump vote on me in the same hesitant tone a repressed gay would employ while confessing to homosexuality: lmao

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2025-06-04 17:34:35
SuperJail Warden
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Speaking of gays...the Treasury Secretary who beat up Elon Musk (!!!) is gay. Imagine getting beaten by a homo a month before Pride Month.

Same thing happened to me as a child for what it is worth in a karate tournament. This gay kid my friend and I were bullying gave me the only loss I ever actually remember. I don't think I have bullied a guy person ever since.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
2025-06-04 17:42:57
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which brings us to the dickheads who voted for this because of the entertainment potential. yeah and i'm sure blowing holes in the bottom of your boat might be fun for some people too.

 

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