Well it's not like Iraqi's and China have lance corporals either. So technically they need to make similar ranks for MEC and China, depending on which army you play the most. According to your logic that is.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Good god people! IT'S... A... GAME!Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
Well... they already need to remove one of them... USMC has no 5-star general rank... their 5-star is a Navy Fleet Admiral.
So? They intend to represent USMC ranks, why not get it right? If they're not trying to portray some particular organization, then why not just make it the "Global Defence Force" vs. the "Invaders from Outer Space"?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Good god people! IT'S... A... GAME!Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
Well... they already need to remove one of them... USMC has no 5-star general rank... their 5-star is a Navy Fleet Admiral.
If you're shooting for a realistic, or semi-real model of something that really exists, it helps not to make errors that are easily spotted, even by those who aren't intimately involved with the subject matter.
I can spot you a few others...
The maps tend to call the USS Essex a "Carrier", which is incorrect. The Essex is LHD 2 (Landing, Helicoptor, Dock), an amphibious assault ship, also called a "Gator Freighter"... it is not an aircraft carrier. If you put two of them side by side, you'd see a *remarkable* difference... as well as there being major differences in their roles and capabilities.
The US transport hilo... really two problems. First, the aircraft modeled is not a UH-60 Black Hawk... that's an Army hilo. It is a Navy CH-60 Sea Hawk... same manufacturer and basic model, different variant, and the difference is more than just a paint job. Second... Marines don't fly around in Sea Hawks... they should've just updated the UH-1 Huey model from BFV... as that is the bird the Marines would use for that number of passengers (CH-60's I think would carry a good dozen or more passengers... and they certainly shouldn't model the CH-53E... that'd carry an entire team on a 64 player map, with probably capacity for a hummer to spare).
Finally... what on earth is the purpose of modeling an Air Force jet? An F/A-18E/F is a perfectly capable fighter-bomber, and is a Marine Corps aircraft. They should've just modeled the F (two seat) instead of the E (single seat) and been done with it. If you want to spawn a USMC single-seat fighter on a runway, spawn the JSF... it's not like you're not *supposed* to use a runway... the F-35 is not a VTOL aircraft.
Some people get off on guns and cars... I get off on aviation and maritime vehicles.
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Fair enough, but does it REALLY matter? As I said, it IS JUST A GAME.Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
Some people get off on guns and cars... I get off on aviation and maritime vehicles.
Ah, just thought of one of the biggest differences between a UH-60 Army Black Hawk and a CH-60 Navy Sea Hawk: the hinged tail, and hinged everything else required for shipboard storage, among other things. The folding tail also requires the tail landing gear be relocated farther forward.
Black Hawks can't do this:
Black Hawks can't do this:
I'm assuming you're a geek, at least somewhat... do you ever roll your eyes and cringe when "hacking" is depicted in TV or a movie? Like say in that film that I think was called "Masterminds", with Patrick Stewart, where the kid hacks his way into some remote computer system.... using a joystick?????Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Fair enough, but does it REALLY matter? As I said, it IS JUST A GAME.
Same principle... and really odd considering they've done enough research to know the difference between a Sergeant Major, a Master Gunnery Sergeant, and the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps, all of which are E-9.
Of course... my guess is that what is there now is basically just placeholders put in by coders, and has not been passed yet by the designers in charge of that area of production. Just a scaffolding, no polish to it yet.
I think this is just a bunch of made up bullshit.
If its not, well Dice/EA fails at military ranks.
If its not, well Dice/EA fails at military ranks.
I'm a Software Engineer, so yes, you would probably consider me a 'geek', however...Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
I'm assuming you're a geek, at least somewhat...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Fair enough, but does it REALLY matter? As I said, it IS JUST A GAME.
Actually, no, and if anyone does I say "IT'S... A... MOVIE!"Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
do you ever roll your eyes and cringe when "hacking" is depicted in TV or a movie? Like say in that film that I think was called "Masterminds", with Patrick Stewart, where the kid hacks his way into some remote computer system.... using a joystick?????
Yes, you're probably correct, and that's the point - it's a game - they could be called absolutely anything - only the fact that its a game that is actually only loosely based on modern warfare makes people go "Oooh, but the ranks are wrong"...Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
Of course... my guess is that what is there now is basically just placeholders put in by coders, and has not been passed yet by the designers in charge of that area of production. Just a scaffolding, no polish to it yet.
It's pointless nitpicking. Just play the game. Who cares what the ranks are called and whether they relate to any kind of real world ranking system in any way what so ever - it's not real life, get over it.
Hey 733t (or whatever) foldable choppers, what will the next thing be? Inflatable jets?Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
Black Hawks can't do this:
http://www.highgallery.com/carrier/carr … trak-a.jpg
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inflatable jets? like the XAO-3? >.<
in Aus the only difference between black and sea hawks is the see hawk has the wheel further towards the back of the tail and has a rescue winch, we dont need all that fold up stuff as we have no carriers...Lazarus Tag'lim wrote:
Ah, just thought of one of the biggest differences between a UH-60 Army Black Hawk and a CH-60 Navy Sea Hawk: the hinged tail, and hinged everything else required for shipboard storage, among other things. The folding tail also requires the tail landing gear be relocated farther forward.
Black Hawks can't do this:
http://www.highgallery.com/carrier/carr … trak-a.jpg
One thing I haven't seen people mention is unlocks. There's enough ranks now for 7 unlocks for each team, that is if they put 1st Lt, Captain, Major, and Lt Colonal back in. At the moment, everyone has at least four or five unlocks and getting killed by one doesn't seem suprising anymore. With the possiblility of 21 opened up, who knows!
Oh My God... Ok, I say no moreCoolbeano wrote:
inflatable jets? like the XAO-3? >.<