Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7203|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

M_Harrower wrote:

Helping the team win, while getting loads of points .
That sums it up, if you take flags, you get points.
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-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7211|Quebec city, Canada
At this moment im working on getting my kdr to 2...

Generally my goal is to kill people and cap flags as best as I can (sometimes alone caping it, so sometimes killed )

I like playing every class although my stats say that im a medic whore. I was before but now I play support a lot, assault, anti tank, spec ops and medic.
Vampira_NB
Trying is the first step to failing
+76|7259|Canada Eh?
It depends, if I'm a couple thousand points away from a promotion... then my team can go fuck themselves lol, but when promotions don't mather I do as I'm told and cap flags and other teamwork related stuff
sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|7118|Denmizzark!!

irok100 wrote:

my penis
irok100 what is your bf2 username? would like to see your sniper stats.. nice vid btw..
Swayin
3-shot SVD specialist
+29|7111|Bellingham, WA

Magpie wrote:

I'm the village idiot running towards the enemy tank instead of taking cover
you fawking liar! that's me! 
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|7135|CH/BR - in UK

Seeing as it's really late for me, and I have to read everything at least twice to get it into my system, I didn't read past the 8th post.
For me it's like this:
Teamwork, do what your squad leader says, unless he's a complete dumbass, in that case usually change squads. If I'm squad leader, and the commander sends me an order, I'll usually accept, but if I'm too far away, I won't bother untill I respawn. I get points by working for the team, so I combine it easily...
GAIKIWARRIOR
Judge Death
+64|7328|PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Staying alive for more than 20 secs
.Psycho~*DS*~
Banned
+64|7105
I try to get good stats, but also help my team to victory, ie revives, heal points, ammo points, etc. This helps both my score, and my team.
Souljah
Member
+42|7252
i concentrate more on having fun then ANYTHING else. i find if i worry about my stats that i end up playing like crap. so im out more to have fun. and while having fun i seem to do ok
TrueArchon
Enemy Sniper..." *BOOM* "Nevermind... got him...
+61|7179|Las Vegas, NV USA
I love a lil' debate, and I'm gonna challenge this "teamwork" thing for a bit.  However, don't take it that I'm against working in a "teamwork" fashion.  I just kinda find it amusing that if someone isn't worried about their score, they're a better player for it.  So, let me begin:

There's this awful rumor floating around that says, "anyone doing anything, but working with the team in an undisclosed 'teamwork' fashion, is wrong."

I mean, honestly, what is "teamwork?"

Forming a squad, and following orders?  Even blindly?

I had a commander, recently, who wanted my squad to take back the palace on Warlord, even though my squad was safe outside, taking back all the other CPs the enemy had already taken.  All the while, just about every other player in the match was fighting back and forth, at the palace, in an attempt to kill each other and take the opposing flag on the other side of the palace.  I rejected this one order, after accepting many other perfectly good orders, and the commander refused to offer any assistance to our squad afterwards (he gave us the order while 3 AT'rs in the squad, myself included, were pummelling a tank to defend the very front CP we'd just taken back).

How about gaining "teamwork" points?

Does that mean running around tossing medpacs, or ammo, everywhere so that even the enemy can get them?  How about revive, re-revive, re-revive, re-revive a teammate who keeps getting mowed down by enemy fire, instead of killing his killer beforehand?

Let's talk about the score issue.

Is it bad that people check the scoreboard every time they get a point?  Depends.  How far between was the last point they gained to the recent one?  Is it an appropriate time?  No enemies breathing down your neck, or a teammates?

I look at the score board all the time, and not just to look at my score.  I use it as a guide to show how I'm rationally measuring up to EVERYONE ELSE on the scoreboard.  If I'm drastically behind in points, to many of the other players on both sides, and I know the reason is because they're contributing more, and I'm contributing less, I work to get up to par.  If I'm not measuring up, but I can reasonably see why ("Hey the top two guys on both teams are pilots plane whoring on the ground troops, but not killing each other!  WTF?!"), then I can live with a mediocre overall score.  At least for a while...

Also, by looking at the score board, it's a good way to get oneself to strive to be better.  Hate having more deaths than kills?  Yep, me too.  OH, WAIT!  My team points are pretty high for taking CPs and giving those medpacs, at appropriate times, to teammates that are hurting ("Is that what that health bar's for?!").  Not so bad, now.

Getting kills, and camping, can be perfectly legitimate for "teamwork" in my eyes.  At times, mind you.

In my example of Warlord above, the other team would have been completely legitimate in camping our team, if my squad hadn't been taking back CPs outside.  If that'd been the case, camp away!  You earned it by taking all the posts except one, and no one on our team is moving to take back those lost flags!  However, with a five man squad outside, the chances of taking that last flag, and winning the match by total annihilation was gonna be slim.  So, they'd had better start getting those CPs back before we're camping their main base (which later wound up happening, in this real match example, btw).  Sadly enough, for the other team, their commander was the only one trying to keep all the bases they'd taken from being lost.

So, in conclusion, is a desire for a high score bad?  How about a low score?

Not at all on both accounts.  If you can rationally explain that you did your best to win the match, and had fun in the process, I think you did good.

Afterall, it's a game, and it's all about having fun.  If you're getting upset about other player's actions that are completely out of your control, not doing what you think is "right", you're probably not having fun, and should look for a place that you will have fun (or work with the current situation to make it fun).  If, by some slim chance, you can't ever find that place, it might be a good idea to find another "fun" game.
-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7211|Quebec city, Canada

Konfusion0 wrote:

If I'm squad leader, and the commander sends me an order, I'll usually accept, but if I'm too far away, I won't bother untill I respawn.
unless your comander tells you to go and repair an asset...

it happens quite often that the commander asks my squad to do that and most of the time, there is not even an engineer in the squad...
-=raska=-
Canada's French Frog
+123|7211|Quebec city, Canada

TrueArchon wrote:

I love a lil' debate, and I'm gonna challenge this "teamwork" thing for a bit.  However, don't take it that I'm against working in a "teamwork" fashion.  I just kinda find it amusing that if someone isn't worried about their score, they're a better player for it.  So, let me begin:

[...]
I totally agree with you and I do the same thing... I always look at the scoreboard to see where I am and If a do well enough to help my team or to be satisfied about my round.

+1

Last edited by -=raska=- (2006-06-21 17:24:25)

Polux
H@x ?? No, just skill baby !
+73|7232|I smell corners

k30dxedle wrote:

Teamwork FTW.
.Psycho~*DS*~
Banned
+64|7105

Polux wrote:

k30dxedle wrote:

Teamwork FTW.
G3157
Member
+6|7116
I end up defending.  Nothing frustrates me more than playing a map and my whole team is out on one extreme end of the map while the enemy takes all our flags from behind.   Getting into the shit is definitely better for points, but I'd rather come in 6th and win.. than medal and lose.


For myself I also stress survivability.  Suicide artists and poor players are bad for ticket economy.

Last edited by G3157 (2006-06-21 18:36:35)

Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,401|7359|Noizyland

Depends on what I am. If I'm a Medic I act as a Medic, usually in a squad, healing, reviving, but stealing kills whenever possible. As Assault or Spec Ops I usually act as a Squad leader and act as the elite Rambo kind of guy, capturing points, killing guys, etc. As Engineer I usually hang back a bit, protect myself, place mines, repair, (when I can,) or act as a crewman to a tank or APC. As Support I act as a squads heavy blunt instrument, laying down heavy fire to keep the enemy's head down or keeping them occupied while my Squad can pick them off. As Sniper I'm completely selfish, hiding away, picking off threats to others, or generally just earning myself kills.

All of that helps your team win, and if not, it at least insures that I have fun.
[Blinking eyes thing]
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-r3-anubis
Member
+73|7122|florida
I concentrate on killing people.
bulletsinurface
teh 1337 SuXorR
+27|7218|Canada Ontario
i usually stay back and pop people for my team
scottomus0
Teh forum ghey!
+172|7222|Wigan. Manchester. England.
racking the points up by killing and doing teamwork
Rizen_Ji
Member
+41|7321|200m out and smiling at you.
winning the round and capping them flags
OpsChief
Member
+101|7261|Southern California
If I stay within the original premise then teamwork is my answer. But what I concentrate on in the game is Strategy and Tactics, leveraging force multiplyers for the win and etc etc etc.... Simply put teamwork is synergy.

The minor problem I have with the original question is this. BF2 is a game which has two distinct "camps"; the wargamer and the videogamer.  Wargamers pull for the teamwork game, following orders even when it means they get fewer revives or kills, executing plans and etc.. Videogamers play more to the 1v1 experience, Individual Combat, pwning the other guy. Both camps are legit, just different.

Within both camps you have stat focussed people who love to show off warbadges and fun focussed people who just like playing as much as they can.

This is a great game. There are more than one or even six good ways to play and that makes this game kickass over the mono-genre games like Far Cry and CS.
Cursed You
Member
+64|7172|Idaho
Usually I'll go into a server with a main goal.

Like get this badge, get this ribbon.

If I dont feel like doing that, I'll stick to getting a positive KDR.

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