MoChief
Member
+67|7226
Yes, it rhymes.  But that's not why I titled it this way.... it's more about making the most of a sniper kit.

I know there has been much debate on the usefulness of a sniper.  Some think they're an annoyance.  Others take great pride in making a head shot from 200 yards.  For those that love the thrill of the long range kill, I EMPLORE you to make the most of your kit.  Other kits have mines, med kits, or lame ass smoke grenades.  You, my sniper friend, have a claymore.  Two of them, in fact.  And if you end up dying before placing two of those bad boys... shame on you.

I have just over 2000 kills on a little over 100 hrs of sniper time.  Much of that time was spent flying trying to get time for the expert sniper badge.... so I could have had more.  And then there was the time earlier this week where I was going for my 20 kills in a round for veteran explosives badge and I went claymore crazy at Karkand which kind of made up for some of that 'lost time'. 

But for those that doubt the value of the sniper, consider the tremendous number of 'defended control point's that can be directly attributed to a claymore.  I cannot tell you how many times I will spawn at an otherwise calm base, place a claymore and hoof it for a few minutes only to get a surprise kill and 'defended cp' point.  You're welcome team.  Sometimes it's a squad that didn't all die and the cp falls anyway.... most of the time it was a lone gunner that now has to start his trek all over again.

So, I consider it my absolute duty to place those claymores at some point during my sniper life.  Where to use them?  Here is a list of good choices:

1.  Obviously, your own control points are a good idea.  Preferably somewhat hidden so incoming enemy don't spot it until it's too late.  2 pts for kill + 1 for defending control point.  Maybe more than one kill?... all the better.  Place at the flag or you can place at likely entry points to the flag.  Either way, it's all good.

2.  Behind you or at various blind spots when sniping.  Let's face it.... you're focused on the scope.... not looking around for someone sneaking up behind you.  Protect the 6.  I especially like placing a claymore toward the east alleyway when playing MEC at Karkand and sniping toward the main US spawn point as enemy comes down the hill.

3.  On offense.  If you're rushing into a heavily populated enemy base, throw down the claymore.  This works especially well at known spawn points.  (Yes... I'll take my lashing now for advocating spawn raping).  But nothing frustrates me more to spawn into a claymore... so I know it's effective.

4.  You spawn only to find a squad capping your flag.  Sacrifice yourself.  Throw down the claymore and then get mowed down.  I just did this last night and got 3 kills from one claymore after I was mowed down by a DAO-12.  In close quarter combat, you're going to be toast anyhow.  If you don't die right away, perhaps you can get off a few grenades or pistol shots.... but the sniper usually loses these battles.  At least until your claymore does the talking.

5.  Being chased around a building?  Get behind a wall and turn around to place a claymore while enemy doesn't see you.  Then keep on running away from enemy.  The enemy will likely just run into your claymore and you get to carry on with your sniping ways.


I'll admit I'm not the best sniper out there.  I have a @50% hit ratio and < 1 k/d ratio when carrying the sniper rifle.  But if you add in my claymore kills, I'm in respectable territory.  And, frankly, if you're having a bad round.... it's hard to go wrong by being aggressive with claymores.  The claymores stick around for a period of perhaps a minute or 2 after your death.... and that means more points for you.

Of course, if you're on a server with FF "on" for claymores... this is trouble.  It's very difficult to find points where only the enemy will travel and keep yourself from racking up team kills.  Luckily, most servers I've played have FF "off."  But even WITH FF off, you'll end up with a few as occasionally a teammate will be in the firezone when the enemy happens upon your claymore.  Poop happens.  They'll get over it.
 
Also note that you can only place 2 claymores at a time.  If you pick up more ammo, you can place more claymores... but the game will erase the claymores you placed in chronological order (1st placed is 1st erased).  But if you know one of your claymores already got a kill... place another one by all means! 

That's all for now.  Have fun with your claymores.  They're your sniping duty to place them before you die.
Audio
Member
+130|7157|Orlando, FL
Wow, I'm not reading that LONG ass post, but I am going to give you +1 for taking the time to write it.
Daz
Member
+14|7143|Somalia
Not bad.

I often find that many people dont place claymores in good spots, normally just random out in the open sometimes even facing the wrong way (they only go expload from the convexed side, and I think it only has a straight forward proximity, so if you need to get round a corner but theres a claymore there, just run and jump over it as long as its not facing you as you jump.

Easily best used as defense, god I hate them sometimes when people obviously whore them, but as defense I dont think anyone should complain, its just when people run and throw them at your feet its very annoying.

Only 30 so hours left till expert, I dont think Ill ever play the kit again though as I never liked it too much, its fun for about a minute but when there is nobody to snipe its really boring.

Too bad you dont get a SMG or something and then carry the sniper rifle too, then it would have been perfect. The pistols only are effective if the guy aint seen you, or if you both go prone and aim propper. As you will hardly ever win a fight with it against fully automatic guns unless you jump or sprint or something.
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7330|Antarctica
The problem with claymores is that
1) they do NO damage to friendlies

2) They do not have to be detonated or take any skill whatsoever to use

Its just another skill-less tool that EA added to appease all the whiners.
Hurlin
Member
+5|7400|Australia
I play Australian servers where FF is allways on ..... and I love claywhoreing ....... I dont love the punishing but I've learnt too take that instride.

Intelegent placement of claymores can be a huge factor in who wins a map especailly in the city maps.

But then alot of people dislike claywhores
Orion126
Member
+6|7165
Oh yeah, I hate those damn things...I usually volunteer to dismantle by running to it...
Sgt_Bob05
Nade Spammers Must Die
+49|7326|Australia
Not gonna read it. Don't care what you have to say. This is not a church go confess somewhere else
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7277
f*cking claymores. Go ruin someone else's game. You can't survive for 2 seconds near the palace flags on warlord without getting blown to bits by a claymore that you can only see when it can see you, and cannot be remotely detonated. I have no respect for you shits who get themselves killed to be able to place a claymore right in a corridor near 5 teammates. Want to kill those people? Pick up a gun and do it.

the ONLY way that I accept claymore usage is for direct self defence.
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poidloid
Banned
+22|7139
nice post m8
i am trying for my expert sniper at the mo (trying to hit the 100 hrs)

fuck sniping from long range.

i just run into an enemy base and fling those bad boys down.

wooo hooooooooo!!!

Kamakazeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!



DEAD!
sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|7157|Denmizzark!!
I love claymores but will never sacrifice myself by charging the enemy with a claymore in my hand.. my 12 kdr with claymores can attest to that..
R*A*N*N*9
Member
+-1|7137
Well said my man, I love the claymores!

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Hurlin
Member
+5|7400|Australia

poidloid wrote:

nice post m8
i am trying for my expert sniper at the mo (trying to hit the 100 hrs)

fuck sniping from long range.

i just run into an enemy base and fling those bad boys down.

wooo hooooooooo!!!

Kamakazeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!



DEAD!
LOL I got my expert Explosives that way ...... Jameson and claywhoreing = Unexpected badge
SpectreGunship
Member
+5|7193
i love killing a sniper, picking up his kit a laying down the clays. then we he comes back he gets killed by them, lmao! seriously though as soon as you couldn't disable a clay with a nade it became the gayest weapon in the game due to the  guys who spawn and instantly press f4.

Last edited by SpectreGunship (2006-06-29 01:05:15)

Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7277

SpectreGunship wrote:

i love killing a sniper, picking up his kit a laying down the clays.
haha yeah I do that all the time to claymore whores in the Palace on warlord. Place 'em right outside of their spawn so they can't go anywhere. A bit of revenge is fun sometimes
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poidloid
Banned
+22|7139

SargeV1.4 wrote:

SpectreGunship wrote:

i love killing a sniper, picking up his kit a laying down the clays.
haha yeah I do that all the time to claymore whores in the Palace on warlord. Place 'em right outside of their spawn so they can't go anywhere. A bit of revenge is fun sometimes
yet you give me -1 with the reason FUCK YOU becausi i do it

fag

LMFUCKINGAO

WATCH WHERE YOUR GOING YOU BLIND TWAT.
Slashed06
Member
+44|7182
+1 mate very nice. Unfortunately recently i have stopped laying them as on my fav server they turned FF On . Just gonna start using another server.
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7298|Cardiff, Capital of Wales
As MEC at Karkand its a good idea to use clays if you want to win. More than other maps this one has many choke spots/alleyways.  If you can keep the infantry at bay for as long as possible it leaves the usa to go the long way round to the hotel or they HAVE to bring in the armour and thus give the Spec Op's something to do.
Shem
sɥǝɯ
+152|7151|London (At Heart)

Not a bad post

Shem
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|7199|London
Claymores are the scourge of battlefield 2. Seriously. Indestructible, long range, non-teamkilling (unless both a friendly and an enemy are in the blast radius), no detonation required, persistent even after you've killed the sniper, oh, and you get two of them. C4 chucking and noobtubing had NOTHING on claymores.

But yeah...+1 for bothering to write such a long post.
1927
The oldest chav in the world
+2,423|7298|Cardiff, Capital of Wales

Aries_37 wrote:

. Seriously. Indestructible
Artillery takes them out, blast from armour takes them out, a vehicle running over them takes them out.

I see your point though, I think 'nades should be able to detonate them. Atm they don't.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|7277

poidloid wrote:

SargeV1.4 wrote:

SpectreGunship wrote:

i love killing a sniper, picking up his kit a laying down the clays.
haha yeah I do that all the time to claymore whores in the Palace on warlord. Place 'em right outside of their spawn so they can't go anywhere. A bit of revenge is fun sometimes
yet you give me -1 with the reason FUCK YOU becausi i do it

fag

LMFUCKINGAO

WATCH WHERE YOUR GOING YOU BLIND TWAT.
"A bit of revenge is fun sometimes"

"A bit of revenge is fun sometimes"

"A bit of revenge is fun sometimes"

And seeing as you're such a genius, tell me how I'm supposed to check for claymores in corridors around corners when the only way I can see them is by going into the detonation radius?
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fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|7193

SargeV1.4 wrote:

And seeing as you're such a genius, tell me how I'm supposed to check for claymores in corridors around corners when the only way I can see them is by going into the detonation radius?
Activate the Wallhack of your trust, look through the wall, deactivate Wallhack - i cannot imagine an other manner if they're placed well around a corner.
bullit
Tank Troll
+71|7314|London, UK
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908741059871059781
Sheep of War
+40|7267
Claymores are the most retarded weapon in the game. They would be tolerable if there was somthing you could do about them. Most of the time wrenching them doesn't work anyways.  Its a garunteed kill weapon, no matter how retarded you are. This is unacceptable. They simply NEED to be destructable by throwing grenades at them.

They should also dissapear as soon as the idiot sniper throwing them dies.

And; should have a trip wire or be remote detonated.

To many times idiot snipers run around a corner at you with a stupid ass claymore. You kill them and then you can't move with out getting blown to hell.

No offense to the topic starter, but if you didn't already know how to spam claymores--you should probably just go ahead and kill yourself.
908741059871059781
Sheep of War
+40|7267
Haha nice stfu -1 for this one.  Yeah; lets write a guide on whoring claymores.

Last edited by 908741059871059781 (2006-06-29 04:45:10)

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