specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|7287|arica harbour
snipers versus medics.. Oh boy what has the world come to now these days.


snipers will beat medics assuming they make only head  shots, or else the medics will self heal themselves and retaliate.

but then again, there is no point of chasing a sniper into a building since they claywhore like mad.

but then again, medics can revive each other.

in reality, the battle can go either way.
delta4bravo*nl*
Dutch Delight
+68|7350
Give me the chinese 88 sniper and I own almost all.
Just played a round with the 88 as active sniper no claymores just the 88 walking capping flags and ending with 107 points 37 kills 9 deadth of witch 3 where arty.
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|7289|Devon, England

mavrick 3399 wrote:

FFLink13 wrote:

then wen all flags are capped, this huge cloud of medics will swarm on the snipers and annihilate em.
if you could find us that is.
and itd be really hard to spot 32 odd snipers crouded around a hill wont it?

Last edited by FFLink13 (2006-06-29 06:47:03)

908741059871059781
Sheep of War
+40|7241
So I guess I have some takers.

I would be willing to use a sig custom designed by claywhores: if the medics lose.
Drykill
I Like Waffles.
+47|7290|England
Well I'd be up for it but depends if and when it happens, I'm on a week long shooting trip starting this Sunday so I'll be free from the 9th onwards
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|7240|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

FFLink13 wrote:

mavrick 3399 wrote:

FFLink13 wrote:

then wen all flags are capped, this huge cloud of medics will swarm on the snipers and annihilate em.
if you could find us that is.
and itd be really hard to spot 32 odd snipers crouded around a hill wont it?
i think you're thinking of those snipers who get too close and dont use cover.. the same ones who'll drop a claymore in CQC cos they cant effectively use their sidearm or knife..

but myself.. and a few others that i play with regularly.. you wont see us.. all you'll see is:

SpawnoftheMist [L96A1] You
dont_be_ss [L96A1] The guy beside you
Mj.Blindfisch [L96A1] The medic trying to revive you
Entertainer_06 [M95] some guy on Ghost Town when we're playing wake
Nyte [Mirror] Nyte (there's that ego again )

Last edited by spawnofthemist (2006-06-29 06:53:31)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7199|132 and Bush

Enough talk, someone should organise it.. server, signup, and time.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Schlusi=[GER]
Member
+11|7119|4856 Karkand,Hellstreet 4
COOL!

Snipers vs Medics... Please let me be a Support
TrueArchon
Enemy Sniper..." *BOOM* "Nevermind... got him...
+61|7192|Las Vegas, NV USA
Hmm... medics vs. snipers?  Somehow I don't see that turning out in a way that a lot of people would first think.

Sure a pair of medics can have some predictable results, especially with the revive and self heal capability.  However, snipers have a really good kill capability, especially when paired together.  Headshots aren't nearly gonna be as important as two body shots in rapid succession.  Couple that with particularly nasty combinations of semi-auto sniper rifles and very accurate, powerful bolt actions, medics reviving their medic companions are gonna have more than they originally bargained for.

Mind you, I like the medic kit.  I really do!  However, trying to compare the two in usefulness by trying to single them out against each other is kinda pointless as an effort to show which is best.  Because, frankly, it's not a very realistic way to prove which is better in a game where there are another five kits, four team roles (cmdr, SL, SM, and lone), fourteen weapon unlocks, many booster pack specific weapons, hundreds of pieces of equipment (i.e. vehicles, weapon implacements, tactical gear/weapons), and almost thirty different maps.  Oh yeah, and what about the ability to swap kits from dead players?

As whilsky has said, it would be entertaining to watch, but in the end, it'd prove nothing.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7228|Washington, DC

I'll be the F-15 pilot.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7305|67.222.138.85
I have to agree that this is a mismatch, snipers will wipe the floor with you and our claymores.

Seriously, medic is probably the best single kit in the game in matches like these, you'd never be able to kill them. You should do a sniper v. assault, that'd be fair.

And snipers aren't useless, I've gotten the gold on a full Karkand server beating all the armor whores as a sniper.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|7287|arica harbour

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I have to agree that this is a mismatch, snipers will wipe the floor with you and our claymores.

Seriously, medic is probably the best single kit in the game in matches like these, you'd never be able to kill them. You should do a sniper v. assault, that'd be fair.

And snipers aren't useless, I've gotten the gold on a full Karkand server beating all the armor whores as a sniper.
i agree with you on this one. Assault and medics.. now thats a fair fight,

enjoy the +1
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|7286|UK
Any good sniper wouldnt let a guy get close enough to use his gun, but in  the small areas I've become efficient enough with a pistol to take on a machine gun wielding grunt and be the victor.

Accuracy and speed is all thats needed.
Hey no way u can get me with ur AK out of date piece of junk from 500m. If we do verus you we will play on wake island it can be me, the (ss) guys,entainer_06 and other sniper community members.

Only gun i would use as a sniper would be L85,G3 and the PKM

Last edited by †[AøT]§tèálth† (2006-06-29 07:04:49)

BornToKill67
It's a good day to die
+18|7258|Canada Eh?
Medics vs. Snipers is an unfair match. You got a kit with the ability to heal anyone and revive your teammates, and you got another kit who has a really long range weapon and a shitty pistol. If it was assault vs. snipers then I would consider joining... I'll be on the sniper's team.

E7IX3R wrote:

Any good sniper wouldnt let a guy get close enough to use his gun, but in  the small areas I've become efficient enough with a pistol to take on a machine gun wielding grunt and be the victor.

Accuracy and speed is all thats needed.
Very true but its speed most snipers lack. I can get a guy with my pistol from time to time but i usually rely on clays to protect my ass.

Last edited by BornToKill67 (2006-06-29 07:06:59)

mavrick 3399
EA GAMES PATCH EVERYTHING
+102|7139|Doncaster UK

spawnofthemist wrote:

FFLink13 wrote:

mavrick 3399 wrote:


if you could find us that is.
and itd be really hard to spot 32 odd snipers crouded around a hill wont it?
i think you're thinking of those snipers who get too close and dont use cover.. the same ones who'll drop a claymore in CQC cos they cant effectively use their sidearm or knife..

but myself.. and a few others that i play with regularly.. you wont see us.. all you'll see is:

SpawnoftheMist [L96A1] You
dont_be_ss [L96A1] The guy beside you
Mj.Blindfisch [L96A1] The medic trying to revive you
Entertainer_06 [M95] some guy on Ghost Town when we're playing wake
Nyte [Mirror] Nyte (there's that ego again )
FubarJonny
bUdSMoKEr
+47|7288
oh ill owned any medic on Sharqi .
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7387|Singapore

mporlier wrote:

I am a full time sniper. In a one on one combat snipers will lose against every kit but engineer. In a game situation, the focus is not 100% on the snipers that is when they can contribute best to the team.
You're kidding. Right?
908741059871059781
Sheep of War
+40|7241

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I have to agree that this is a mismatch, snipers will wipe the floor with you and our claymores.

Seriously, medic is probably the best single kit in the game in matches like these, you'd never be able to kill them. You should do a sniper v. assault, that'd be fair.

And snipers aren't useless, I've gotten the gold on a full Karkand server beating all the armor whores as a sniper.
No it wouldn't....here is my logic.

Snipers only use is indescrutable explosives. Cheap kills. This evens out by your squad members having revive and heal capabilities.

No vehicles this goes to the sniper because you can't just hop in a hummer and get out of the range of fire.

Assault has nothing to counter the snipers cheap ass flag defends.

Maybe its not the best way to prove utter worthlessness, but its a good way to prove their use for the believers.  (which I am openly doubting).

Gold medal or not (which doesn't always mean you win the game, mind you:) IMO, a team is ALWAYs better off without them.  Its an entertainment class, sure its fun to play once in a while, but the contributions are very limited.

Add in vehicles and other classes, and you have a class that doesn't amount to much.

Mainly I'm just sick of hearing about the almighty snipers. Masstur turned into a joke because its all snipers and they are all crowed around the same spots trying to be the unseen ghost killers. It really is a laugh.  For a winning team you pretty much just pick the one with less snipers (unless the team is horrid.)
mporlier
Member
+42|7238|Montreal, Canada

polarbearz wrote:

mporlier wrote:

I am a full time sniper. In a one on one combat snipers will lose against every kit but engineer. In a game situation, the focus is not 100% on the snipers that is when they can contribute best to the team.
You're kidding. Right?
About what? the 1/1 thing? No, I am certain I can move close to a sniper and he would be able to do a thing about it even if he sees me. Its all in how you move. As well, if I have any other kit than sniper of engineer, I use the following:

Fire for cover
Run (zig zag, change speed, change direction)
Cover
Fire for cover

I do apply does tactics in game and rarely get killed by snipers. At one point I will be in killing distance and than my rate of fire will win the battle.
[n00b]Tyler
Banned
+505|7192|Iceland
Id love to own the L96 whores :]

Im a medic!
908741059871059781
Sheep of War
+40|7241
One more thing:

This could be pretty fun or an utter raping. Either way, I like the sig idea. I'd be willing to take the abuse of wearing a sig of utter anihilation (resposible for the entire team.)

I think designating a leader of the snipers to do the same would be fun (Nyte comes to mind.)

This is providing, of course, we get some volunteers that are willing to put up a fight so as not to sabatoge the other team. Also I can't design sigs, I'd have to get somone to make a good one.
Drykill
I Like Waffles.
+47|7290|England
Something is being arranged and there will be more details on it later. Duffy from DMZ is getting it organised.

Last edited by Drykill (2006-06-29 07:31:43)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7199|132 and Bush

We need 2 captains. I think this should be left up to the topic starter. They need to agree on a host,time,map, and player amount. I think there should be a nuetral observer on each side..to make sure no commanders..etc.

Anyways PM me 908741059871059781 if you need a med. I have a pretty good amount of time with that kit.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|7189|Your attic
Depends look at this

https://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2510/screen0066vy.jpg

Yea I'm proud and all, but the fact is that the expert sniper takes 35 kills IAR, now I didn't even know I was able to get it, I was just having a decent round, but 35+ kills in a round is fair by any kits standards, and yes, I did it with my entire kit that DICE gave me, claymores, grenades, pistol and of course the rifle.
What I'm trying to say is that a good sniper can make a real contribution to a team, and often you won't see it, I've lost count of the times I've shot guys that where just about to mow down one of my team mates, the amount of KD assists you get as a sniper (running headshots are not easy, no matter what anyone says) is massive, just think how many times you've managed to kill a guy in one single shot, chances are a sniper has had a go at him first.

I'm not really into long range camping on city maps(says the guy on top of construction ) capping flags as a sniper really isn't to hard, lay down your clays. If no-one comes to stop you then those clays stay there for a while in defence, if someone does come chances are they get hammered in the face with shrapnel, so I then pick up there kit and try and take anything else that comes.  Sure a medic is useful, so is a support guy, but alot of you don't see that a good sniper can have more of a positive effect then you think.

Last edited by Towelly (2006-06-29 07:34:00)

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