Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|7362

I shoot at helicopters and tanks because I love the sound of the bullets hitting armor.
Hacial
404 - Not Found
+107|7244
Yes I stated earlier that I understand that people shoot chopper when it's smoking but...

I wrote:

Why do they shoot when they see that I just came from direction where airfield is? (Obviously full health because it came from getting repairs at airfield)
Edit: I got negative karma from my first post in this thread... wonder what did he mean?
Today 16:08:17 | -1 | Why supports shoot attack choppers? | tooo high woring points,, must give nega karma =p

Last edited by Hacial (2006-07-02 07:39:24)

KingMchris
Member
+12|7167|London
It's all about the KIll Assist bruv:)
OpsChief
Member
+101|7301|Southern California

Hacial wrote:

When I'm in attack chopper, I notice some little fire coming at me and I easily spot it, then I figure out it's support shooting me. What's the point with that? They want to get killed? Because when shooting enemy chopper you could aswell put some big flashing neonlight sign "I'm over here kill me!" (Click my MC Hammer...)
lol

You pilots are missing the point. One PKM vs One helo is not the real comparison to make. Massed small arms fire v Helo is the right way to do it. But I will still engage 1v1 a helo with my PKM because I know if he is chasing me he is letting our team's tanks and helos break his m8s up.

I lost count of how many arrogant pilots I have chased away smokin like a burnt piece of bacon or sent to digital dust with my Mighty PKM...the PKM along with AT missiles or GLs can open up helo's like a ziplock baggy.  2-3 PKMs can down a chopper in no time and they will be firing from 3 different directions. When small arms all concentrate on a single bird it's seconds are numbered in single digits. The only reason helo's seem to own in this game is that people still think they're playing CS and don't think in the 3rd dimension.

Last edited by OpsChief (2006-07-02 08:06:52)

Hacial
404 - Not Found
+107|7244

OpsChief wrote:

Hacial wrote:

When I'm in attack chopper, I notice some little fire coming at me and I easily spot it, then I figure out it's support shooting me. What's the point with that? They want to get killed? Because when shooting enemy chopper you could aswell put some big flashing neonlight sign "I'm over here kill me!" (Click my MC Hammer...)
lol

You pilots are missing the point. One PKM vs One helo is not the real comparison to make. Massed small arms fire v Helo is the right way to do it. But I will still engage 1v1 a helo with my PKM because I know if he is chasing me he is letting our team's tanks and helos break his m8s up.

I lost count of how many arrogant pilots I have chased away smokin like a burnt piece of bacon or sent to digital dust with my Mighty PKM...the PKM along with AT missiles or GLs can open up helo's like a ziplock baggy.  2-3 PKMs can down a chopper in no time and they will be firing from 3 different directions. When small arms all concentrate on a single bird it's seconds are numbered in single digits. The only reason helo's seem to own in this game is that people still think they're playing CS and don't think in the 3rd dimension.
Yeah right. If people would get into little groups and do that. But they don't. I have usually just one PKM shooting me, that has never happened to me.
OpsChief
Member
+101|7301|Southern California

Hacial wrote:

OpsChief wrote:

Hacial wrote:

When I'm in attack chopper, I notice some little fire coming at me and I easily spot it, then I figure out it's support shooting me. What's the point with that? They want to get killed? Because when shooting enemy chopper you could aswell put some big flashing neonlight sign "I'm over here kill me!" (Click my MC Hammer...)
lol

You pilots are missing the point. One PKM vs One helo is not the real comparison to make. Massed small arms fire v Helo is the right way to do it. But I will still engage 1v1 a helo with my PKM because I know if he is chasing me he is letting our team's tanks and helos break his m8s up.

I lost count of how many arrogant pilots I have chased away smokin like a burnt piece of bacon or sent to digital dust with my Mighty PKM...the PKM along with AT missiles or GLs can open up helo's like a ziplock baggy.  2-3 PKMs can down a chopper in no time and they will be firing from 3 different directions. When small arms all concentrate on a single bird it's seconds are numbered in single digits. The only reason helo's seem to own in this game is that people still think they're playing CS and don't think in the 3rd dimension.
Yeah right. If people would get into little groups and do that. But they don't. I have usually just one PKM shooting me, that has never happened to me.
lol yes some do get into small groups even large groups!!! But you are partially right - alot of people just don't get how powerful teamwork can be so they don't combine fires to defeat targets. Do you play on servers with mostly Lone Wolves?

I was just sitting here trying to count the number of helos I have seen shot down by Infantry and got bored after around 20 (and they weren't the helopad snipes either - last night a clan m8 took out a moving Cobra with his sniper rifle), I guess that wasn't you?   you are just lucky I guess....

Good Luck and Have Fun
Vampira_NB
Trying is the first step to failing
+76|7299|Canada Eh?
Don't know if anybody covered this, but while messing around on our empty private server, some of us NHB guys decided to see how long it would take to destroy a full health blackhawk with support guns.... We were 6 or 7 Supports shooting at the blackhawk....Well it takes a long ass time, we even had to reload. So its useless unless the blackhawk is flaming, in which case whoevers the last to shoot him gets the kill... So shoot him with a pistol instead... its funnier
he_who_says_zonk
Member
+17|7345
The PKM is seriously excellent against helicopters. It isn't as fast as the mounted 50 cals on the transport vehicles, but it's still good. Two or more PKMs are just as good as a mounted 50 cal, the only difference is you're a lot easier to kill.

The PKM is also devastating against transports. On a number of occasions I've used it to take out humvees and buggys. It's very satisfying, especially if they were either trying to run you over or shoot you from a turret.

The PKM: it fucks shit up.


Oh but edit: Teamwork is totally the bomb. Slightly OT but on Sharqi a pair of MEC were whoring the tank (eg, sitting outside flags laying down MG fire and tank shells, and one of them was constantly repairing, plus they had supply crates). I couldn't do anything because by the time I got to the area he already had 2 supply crates + eng, but I convinced my whole squad to spawn AT with me and we put down a serious barrage of AT fire and took it down in a few seconds.

The best part was we then advanced to the hills around the first flag and every time the MEC tank emerged with the same two guys, as soon as they were 5 - 10 m past the buildings, they'd get suddenly hit and destroyed by AT rockets. They failed to learn the essential rule of life; stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Last edited by he_who_says_zonk (2006-07-02 08:39:33)

ZCor3x
Member
+46|7195|Pennsylvania

Coolbeano wrote:

because the PKM does serious damage to your chopper.

even the other support guns can take down helicopters, i remember during the demo i took out a blackhawk with the minimi.
Dude, no it doesn't. It does like half a bar every 30 shots.. Besides the fact shooting at an attack chopper with a regular gun, not a vodnik or something.. It raises your accuracy for one, and gets you quite a few deaths.
elmo1337
Banned
+186|7184|The real world

he_who_says_zonk wrote:

The PKM: it fucks shit up.
yes, your own k/d when im the helicopter
he_who_says_zonk
Member
+17|7345

elmo1337 wrote:

he_who_says_zonk wrote:

The PKM: it fucks shit up.
yes, your own k/d when im the helicopter
Oh as a helicopter pilot I completely agree. If I'm support I don't just stand in the open and spray, I only emerge and engage a helicopter if I'm going to be firing at its underside or rear quarter. I suppose one reason I've found it to be effective is because I only started doing it after a lot of helicopter time, so I have a very clear idea of when I can and cannot be seen from the gunner position. So like all things worth doing in the game, attacking a heli with a PKM does require some element of thought.
jkohlc
2142th Whore
+214|7151|Singapore
i shoot choppers LMG when i have nothing better to do
OpsChief
Member
+101|7301|Southern California

Vampira_NB wrote:

Don't know if anybody covered this, but while messing around on our empty private server, some of us NHB guys decided to see how long it would take to destroy a full health blackhawk with support guns.... We were 6 or 7 Supports shooting at the blackhawk....Well it takes a long ass time, we even had to reload. So its useless unless the blackhawk is flaming, in which case whoevers the last to shoot him gets the kill... So shoot him with a pistol instead... its funnier
??? What part of the helo were you hitting? Was helo in flight? Did all Support gunners aim at the same part? I have seen half that many PKMs take out a Cobra!!!
assau1t
Member
+12|7328|sector a-35
coz i am RAMBO!
Hacial
404 - Not Found
+107|7244
Now I got two negative karma from this thread.

Today 19:20:53      -1      Why supports shoot attack choppers?      i kill choppers all the time with my pistol
Today 16:08:17     -1     Why supports shoot attack choppers?     tooo high woring points,, must give nega karma

What whoring points? And maybe you kill them with your pistol by shooting at them when they're just about to explode or crash. Suprise, cockfag!

Edit: now I got my karma back from two people. Thank you.

Last edited by Hacial (2006-07-02 09:58:13)

PRiMACORD
Member
+190|7250|Home of the Escalade Herds

Hacial wrote:

Yes I stated earlier that I understand that people shoot chopper when it's smoking but...

I wrote:

Why do they shoot when they see that I just came from direction where airfield is? (Obviously full health because it came from getting repairs at airfield)
Edit: I got negative karma from my first post in this thread... wonder what did he mean?
Today 16:08:17 | -1 | Why supports shoot attack choppers? | tooo high woring points,, must give nega karma =p
Today 10:22:46      -1      Why supports shoot attack choppers?      i kill attack helos with my knife

Got similar retarded neg karma.
jkohlc
2142th Whore
+214|7151|Singapore
ty for the ones who gave me a +1 back
elmo1337
Banned
+186|7184|The real world
Me to

-1 teabag for you

Looks like somebody needs to get in a black hawk and get raped by elmo 180 times in a row
DoNER90
Member
+14|7142|South Africa
it is to increase your Accuarcy it is hit points and hit point / shots = accuarcy
Vampira_NB
Trying is the first step to failing
+76|7299|Canada Eh?

OpsChief wrote:

Vampira_NB wrote:

Don't know if anybody covered this, but while messing around on our empty private server, some of us NHB guys decided to see how long it would take to destroy a full health blackhawk with support guns.... We were 6 or 7 Supports shooting at the blackhawk....Well it takes a long ass time, we even had to reload. So its useless unless the blackhawk is flaming, in which case whoevers the last to shoot him gets the kill... So shoot him with a pistol instead... its funnier
??? What part of the helo were you hitting? Was helo in flight? Did all Support gunners aim at the same part? I have seen half that many PKMs take out a Cobra!!!
We were hitting the front of the blackhawk, it was in flight, we all had no choice but to hit the front, It wasn't PKMs and it wasn't a cobra. Cobra's are much weaker than blackhawks so there's your answer
Seaneroo
Member
+12|7283
I took down a heavily damaged chopper once with about 5 shots from my PKM.
xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|7354|Louisiana
When I'm ducking into and out of cover, taking potshots at your helo and you're chasing me, that's time you could be spending doing something useful for your team.
tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|7283| United States of America
STOP HAMMERTIME!!!
Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|7325
Because they have a deathwish. Really, anyone who fires anything smaller than an AT rocket at a helicopter is just shouting 'hey! I'm over here! Look at me!'
Spartanops21
Member
+10|7242|U.S.A, NY
one of the reasons most people shoot at choppers right in front of them is to raise their accuracy. if u shoot a bullet, and it does any kind of damage, it raises ur accuracy. i dont care bout that though. u'll probably see me shooting at an attack chopper with a sraw/eryx, sometimes m95

Last edited by Spartanops21 (2006-07-02 12:26:44)

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