These flares really excist if you didnt know.. A missle flies much faster then the plane can ever reach until you have a star trek with a warp drive with goes like warp 9.. a missle follows heat so if you throw a flare it will follow the heat of the flare, so a smoke screen wont work the missle doesnt care whether it is goes throught clouds, smoke, rain, sun what so ever, so flares should stay.eatmywheaties wrote:
i think that the jets shouldn't have flares at all.
they are fast enough with afterburners to get out of sraw's and helicopter fire, but the real pilots can even escape stingers- top gun gung ho style.
Flares on the jets make them very powerful because they stay in the air soooooo much longer.
flares on a helo- ok
on a jet? 1000 mph...who needs flares? bit of overkill if you ask me.
maybe change the flares to a smoke screen?
This is such a suprise, as soon as people start getting killed by the same thing over and over again they start complaining, because they think that they shouldn't be able to get killed in a certain fashion.
The people who call people "jet whores" are most probably "tank whores" because vehicles are really easy targets for jets. Just accept it if you get in a ground vehicle in a map where there are jets you're going to killed by one sooner or later, but if your any good with any AA you will get them every so often aswell. This game is delicately balanced, if AA was made more effective then people wouldn't use jets or choppers at all because they would keep getting killed by AA, thus making Aircraft completely useless.
Another point is that these people in vehicles on the floor that keep getting killed by planes, don't complain when they are racking up the points from ripping through infranty units on the ground do they?? so don't complain when someone finally gets you.
The best AA on the game is the IGLA/STINGER emplacements if used correctly. A tip for getting jets in them is to wait until the jet goes by you and let the missile "chase" the plane rather than shooting when its coming at you. (Got 11 planes in IGLA's on wake island in a single round, so it does work). Same goes for shooting at choppers, dont fire when they are moving laterally (side to side) wait until they are moving towards you or away from you, trust me you will kill them most of the time, unless they have good gunners, in which case congrats to them for doing their job well.
Lets face it, without vehicles BF2 would suck as its infranty combat isn't the best. Jets do bring balance to the game as they neutralize tanks/apcs/jeeps/mobile AA, which without jets would completely own everything on the floor.
Example: Karkand- USMC tanks / APC's spawn camping at hotel CP (really n00bish and annoying)
Have you ever seen a tank SpawnRape on Daqing Oilfields / Kubra Dam / Operation Cleansweep, which have bomber aircraft active on them because i haven't.
Final Point: Stop whining about everything that kills you and instead do something about it, there is a defense for everything in this game if you are smart enough to use it correclty.
The people who call people "jet whores" are most probably "tank whores" because vehicles are really easy targets for jets. Just accept it if you get in a ground vehicle in a map where there are jets you're going to killed by one sooner or later, but if your any good with any AA you will get them every so often aswell. This game is delicately balanced, if AA was made more effective then people wouldn't use jets or choppers at all because they would keep getting killed by AA, thus making Aircraft completely useless.
Another point is that these people in vehicles on the floor that keep getting killed by planes, don't complain when they are racking up the points from ripping through infranty units on the ground do they?? so don't complain when someone finally gets you.
The best AA on the game is the IGLA/STINGER emplacements if used correctly. A tip for getting jets in them is to wait until the jet goes by you and let the missile "chase" the plane rather than shooting when its coming at you. (Got 11 planes in IGLA's on wake island in a single round, so it does work). Same goes for shooting at choppers, dont fire when they are moving laterally (side to side) wait until they are moving towards you or away from you, trust me you will kill them most of the time, unless they have good gunners, in which case congrats to them for doing their job well.
Lets face it, without vehicles BF2 would suck as its infranty combat isn't the best. Jets do bring balance to the game as they neutralize tanks/apcs/jeeps/mobile AA, which without jets would completely own everything on the floor.
Example: Karkand- USMC tanks / APC's spawn camping at hotel CP (really n00bish and annoying)
Have you ever seen a tank SpawnRape on Daqing Oilfields / Kubra Dam / Operation Cleansweep, which have bomber aircraft active on them because i haven't.
Final Point: Stop whining about everything that kills you and instead do something about it, there is a defense for everything in this game if you are smart enough to use it correclty.
@mjw:
The problem is not that the people get killed by something.
The problem is how they get killed.
Constant k:d ratios of 50+:1 is a definate sign something is unballanced.
I usually say, if you see a high percentage of people wanting/playing the same thing, it is a good indicator that that thing is unballanced.
People stand in line to get these things, ffs.
My current list:
Planes
Toobs
Helis
The problem is not that the people get killed by something.
The problem is how they get killed.
Constant k:d ratios of 50+:1 is a definate sign something is unballanced.
I usually say, if you see a high percentage of people wanting/playing the same thing, it is a good indicator that that thing is unballanced.
People stand in line to get these things, ffs.
My current list:
Planes
Toobs
Helis
I have found the best defence against ne thing that flies, is another thing that flies,
The ease with which i can aviod AA missiles is stupid, not that i am an excellent fighter piolt that can done thing,
just the AA missiles are complete poo!! that is why when my team is being owned from the air, iget ina plane and become a target, or atleast locking them on their bombing run, that really throws them.
I am normally very lucky in bombing runs, when i see a square pop up, i look for friendlies about that position, if i see none i unload and continue. but a good mobile AA gunner will shoot down planes with out firing missiles, i salute them when they do that.
The essex gun is a wonderful gun, it will destroy planes in seconds if u hit with the gun while firing flares, when a pilot seeshis health going down, the onlything he wants is too get the f*ck out of there!
What wouldbe good if the AA missiles where inteligent, when they missed they did a loop around searchingfor the SAME target, meaning a pilot that drops flares 2 early will have a missile up his jaxy!
And i agree with the dude up there ^^^ (sorry didnt catch your name)
Planes are used to remove major threats ie apc's and tanks. In my squadi get told where target it is (what CP) and whatit is. i then bomb it. sqaud then continues to next CP that i have bombed seconds before they arivve.
That works the best, the number of times i have spotted a square and tried to bomb it to find it is a car is annoying.
If pilots where to recognise targets by eye, they would have to fly slower, meaning more vulnerable to AA :D
great idea whever that was
The ease with which i can aviod AA missiles is stupid, not that i am an excellent fighter piolt that can done thing,
just the AA missiles are complete poo!! that is why when my team is being owned from the air, iget ina plane and become a target, or atleast locking them on their bombing run, that really throws them.
I am normally very lucky in bombing runs, when i see a square pop up, i look for friendlies about that position, if i see none i unload and continue. but a good mobile AA gunner will shoot down planes with out firing missiles, i salute them when they do that.
The essex gun is a wonderful gun, it will destroy planes in seconds if u hit with the gun while firing flares, when a pilot seeshis health going down, the onlything he wants is too get the f*ck out of there!
What wouldbe good if the AA missiles where inteligent, when they missed they did a loop around searchingfor the SAME target, meaning a pilot that drops flares 2 early will have a missile up his jaxy!
And i agree with the dude up there ^^^ (sorry didnt catch your name)
Planes are used to remove major threats ie apc's and tanks. In my squadi get told where target it is (what CP) and whatit is. i then bomb it. sqaud then continues to next CP that i have bombed seconds before they arivve.
That works the best, the number of times i have spotted a square and tried to bomb it to find it is a car is annoying.
If pilots where to recognise targets by eye, they would have to fly slower, meaning more vulnerable to AA :D
great idea whever that was