BF2S Forums comments on the no vehicles mode

HP values are too high.  Stamina increase makes sense, but that's it....no more armor, no more HPs please.
I can say that as it is, I wouldn't play on infantry only servers.  There are plenty of games that do this much better than sticking it on BF2.  It's too slow/dull to walk/run everywhere for starters, but once you get somewhere, it takes waaaaay too much ammo to drop someone.  I'd need to be support just to have enough ammo to do anything.

I think a better option would be more akin to SF.  Remove jets and armor, and leave transport vehicles.  Leave everything else the same except MAYBE an increase to stamina.  I can't say I'd like this setup really, but I know I would like it better than the current infantry only setup.

isnt that against the ROE?

M1-Lightning wrote:

In other words, someone will have normal stats with a kit because they are not getting base raped by a J10 on Wake. Do 10 deaths in a row by J10 bombs truly indicate a player's skill level? I've been bombed like that repeatedly. Does that mean I suck? I can win a dogfight J10 vs J10, but my PKM doesn't do very well against them.

I think its part of the game to have a percentage of random deaths.  Once you have played for a while you can avoid most of them.  Don't stand in the middle of the Carrier deck waiting for a plane on Wake.  If there is no pilot on your team to counter the J-10 then get in the AA or fly your self or find a more balanced server.  It takes no skill to chuck nades the whole round on karkand.  To be a skilled player I think you need to be able to deal with the uber vehicles.  For the stats to be valid in any type of comparison you have to have the same environment for measurement (the variables are the individual players).  BF2 is a very divers environment already and with statpadding and Glitching/Cheats most of the time its no longer valid to compare to player accounts.  Apples to Pineapples,  I don't bother to compare my stats to some one who has 400 hours on Karkand and only 50h on all the other maps combined as I have tried not to get board with any particular map.  While the games diversity of play and environment is what keeps people playing the game,  I think that adding infantry only stats to the current ranked stats would be a corruption of the information,  you might as well wipe everyones stats and start over(but that would not fly).

I think an infantry mode is a good addition to the game but for the integrity of the current stats system it should not be ranked(I would not expect it to get much use if its un-ranked), better yet It should have its own set of stats.  Separate stats would also show the difference between "Regular Play" and "Infantry Only" for a particular person.  There are alot of players that don't care about stats any more

after additional input from the guys above, I'd update my previous post.

- keep transport vehicles in ( jeeps, BH's, boats ). On the larger maps and on maps like wake, Dalian Plant it will be impossible to get anywhere without proper transport.
- what about the kits that are vehicle-related ( AT / Engi ) ?
- stats would become meaningless, since you wouldn't be able to tell how those came about. Weren't the RoE created for that exact purpose ? Ensuring the integrity of the stats system ?

Conclusion: make "infantry only" unranked. Don't give in to those that want this game to be nerfed further.
Modern combat is about all kinds of weapons, including tanks, helis and jets. Adapt and overcome. Those who can't deal with it, can play unranked and shot each other with pistols...
No wait, that's CS, isn't it ?

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

if the infantry only was made to be ranked, then the ROE would need to be revised to for this new feature

Do u really have any input into final say of patch 1.4 ??

If so please tell them to leave everything alone and just take out the vechiles .Nothing else needs changeing imho .hit points being uped for c4 and grenades is very very retarded and will just annoy players even more then the current patch.

EA/DICE wont listen to us anyway they never do by the sounds of it they have already ruined a great idea .

The amount of hitpoints is woefully high. Please change....

In my honest opinion. I believe that almost everything should be an admin choice, server options that can be adjusted depending on the admins/clans wants and needs. I remember in Medal Of Honor when I was an admin for the #1 ranked server in the world, we would run mods, sometimes only single guns, take out rocket launchers, use only pistols. It was hella fun, as for vehicles it should be a server side option that server adminstrators can access.

I have played the non-vehicles mode and i must say, the game lasted way longer. Though points did not seem to come as fast, this would be difficult for big maps aswell such as Zatar Wetlands and Operation Clean Sweep. Smaller maps like Karkand or Sharqi would be better for this kind of play.

Thats just my two cents.

all you have to do is leave everything as it is, except remove the guns from all transport.

doesnt take a genius to work that one out.

stryyker wrote:

personally, i think it demeans the TRUE battlefield feel, taking away vehicles just makes it a shiity counterstrike.

It's similar , who likes infantry mod ? Low-rankers . Why ? Because they can't deal with vehicles .

I can deal with vehicles. I can deal with planes. I like the game the way it is, just bring more maps and fix the damn server crashes and I will be happy as a clown.

Longbow wrote:

It's similar , who likes infantry mod ? Low-rankers . Why ? Because they can't deal with vehicles .

That doesn't make any sense. There are more kits than just AT and Spec Ops. We'd like to play those other kits too without getting slaughtered by tanks, choppers, jets and APCs. Playing on the air maps I rarely get the opportunity to fire my rifle as it ends up just being armor vs armor, chopper vs chopper, etc..

I think the Infantry only option should have a few light buggys, with no mounted guns.

It can be quite annoying on big maps like Dalian having to walk from flag to flag, even if you can sprint for longer.