Poll

Would bf2 be better w/o ANY of the stats and ranking systems?

Yes!18%18% - 10
No!67%67% - 36
It would be the same13%13% - 7
Total: 53
eagles1106
Member
+269|7152|Marlton, New Jersey.
the poll speaks for itself, and I really do think bf2 would be a lot more fun and enjoyable.  I mean, there would be no hitting your comp when you missed the badge by one point or were always playing for awards and couldnt enjoy the game for what it is, A GAME!  I myself have gotten hooked on the whole badges and ribbons thing, and I personally think it takes away an experience that would be so much more enjoyable if there werent stats and ranks.  There would be no more tking for the chopper JUST because the guy who got in was a lance corp. and you thought he was a noob based by his rank.  What if hes really good in the chopper, but doesnt play bf2 that much because he doesnt have a lot of time to....

Last edited by eagles1106 (2006-07-14 20:42:37)

eagles1106
Member
+269|7152|Marlton, New Jersey.
ok lol.....

Last edited by eagles1106 (2006-07-14 20:48:34)

alexilaiho68
Where's my coffee gone!?
+45|7067|Australia
I dont think as many people would play it if there were no ranks/medals/badges ETC!
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
+235|7247
There are a few things I didn't like about all the badges and fluff . Once you earn everything it's over . Nothing more to look forward to . Stats are kind of the same way but look at it like this . Stats don't mean shit . It all boils down to kill the guy on the hill shooting at you before he kills you . Nothing else matters cept for capping flags and trying to win the round over all . All these badges and stats create a cesspool of , how should I label this ? , stingy greediness . Stats padding is the best example I guess . Lone wolfs doing their thing to get this and that badge even though your getting your ass kicked and have only one flag left - there they are sniping away with not a care in the world for the team effort . All they are interested in doing is getting their badge , nothing else . Stats are nothing but bragging right for your E-Penis size . And back in the day before stats padding was even coined as a phrase people got their amazing stats by padding. Now I look at it this way . This is a flaw by design . What I mean is there is no code to stop it . You need to manually catch people in the act for one , then you have to report them to EA or what ever and then they have to track this person down and wipe their stats . And I'll bet my bottom dollar that as soon as they see their stats wiped they will find a stats padding friendly server and do it all over again . What a complete waste of time instead of JUST PLAYING THE DARN GAME LOL !!! Stats padders have every right to do what they do though because it's simply AVAILABLE TO DO !!! I guess that some people who have stats padded their way to a God like status can simply stop doing it , after the phrase was coined that is , and safely keep their stats . The short of it , stats padders have made all stats meaningless . Because there is no way to really tell for sure if they earned it , or padded it . Well I guess in certain cases where it blatantly obvious with 34,000 shock paddle kills but over all I'm sure there are plenty of people who fall into this category .

  Over all this is supposed to be a team effort game no? Squad based right ? . For the most part people try to play legit and join squads , help out with ammo and be good medics and the like . But there is always that 10%-30% percent that is out for their own good , getting medals and badges . I'm on track with you man . If both stats and badges and all the fluff was not there then this game , by design , would be more focused on kicking ass . I mean killing the enemy troops , focusing on the objective - winning the round . It's almost as if getting all the unlocks , badges and the like is the main focus of this game rather then killing the enemy and fighting for the winning round .

Another side flaw I see is with the system of replenishing Aircraft and vehicles . I don't have an opinion how to fix it but I can explain the problem . We have all seen 7 players standing there waiting for this and that Air Craft , vehicle right ? In some cases it's just stupid . I mean here you are working your ass off trying to cap flags , you get killed time and time again and that's because 50 percent of your team is TK'ing for jet and the like . It sucks and drags the game experience down big time and then the cussing and searing begins , and of course TK'ing . Sad but all too true . So again your trying to win the game and cap flags but you have no support at all . If you ask me tickets should be allotted to all vehicles and aircraft as well . Have a set number and when everything is used up you have nothing but a solid ground troops assault experience at some point when all the Air Craft / vehicle tickets have been used up . But this could be kind of boring/tough to deal with on the larger levels . Perhaps leave fast buggies and jeeps in a constant state of replenishment so at least you can get around without having to hump it . And this would allow you to at least have the chance to kill the guys like Polrbears on the ground for once lol . Revenge at least right ?

My final though would be this . The round starts . Someone takes or is voted into commander position . He has one minute to decide how many tickets will be applied to what Aircraft or vehicles . Could do it 50-50 , meaning ( for example if you had 10 tickets ) 5 tickets for Aircraft and 5 for vehicles . This could be variable though . Have some option leaning towards Aircraft if you know someone on your team is a kick ass pilot . Or the other way around ! Meaning since the guy you know is a super effective pilot who will die only a few times , lean towards tanks and air defense to make up the slack . Know what I mean ?

Anyhow it was constant stats padding , stinginess of players on there to seek rewards and the like that turned me off to this game . I don't play it any more and I'm not interested to return nor buy anymore " BF " anything . It's just not a " fun " environment at all .

JK

Last edited by jonnykill (2006-07-14 21:54:17)

rustynutz
I am British!
+124|7251|England and damn proud
I cant be arsed to read that so can u put in 1 or 2 sentences pls
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7288|California

not in the least. If i want unranked, i play Desert Combat, or another FPS
TuataraDude
Member
+115|7090|Aotearoa

rustynutz wrote:

I cant be arsed to read that so can u put in 1 or 2 sentences pls
Let me put it shorter for you:  "Stats and awards are bad, mkay?"
rustynutz
I am British!
+124|7251|England and damn proud

TuataraDude wrote:

rustynutz wrote:

I cant be arsed to read that so can u put in 1 or 2 sentences pls
Let me put it shorter for you:  "Stats and awards are bad, mkay?"
Thanks
HURLEY
Ima Crunchatize you.
+170|7251|The Lou
this game isnt fun to me anyway! all it does is frustrates me lol.
jonnykill
The Microwave Man
+235|7247

HURLEY wrote:

this game isn't fun to me anyway! all it does is frustrates me lol.
THAT'S the sum of what I meant without all the details ! Good show . This game is designed to allow the most frustrating situations to occur on a daily basis that I rarely actually ENJOYED playing the damn game . Although for a 6 month stretch I played every chance I got . I was addicted but after the whining and bitching about this and that , the patches , the up-dating , all the BS that went with it - nothing but frustration every time I played . This game is done busted and not even close to the product I took off the shelf and paid for at the counter . I'm over it lol .
BabySpinach
Phone Spammer
+207|7159|Charlottesville, Virginia, USA

jonnykill wrote:

Bunch of usless text no one is going to bother to read because no one on this forum has an attention span greater than 20 seconds.
Okay.

Last edited by BabySpinach13 (2006-07-14 22:16:22)

TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|7240|Colorado
Well 1942 was great fun, but then BF:V sucked arse, then they brought the fun back into it & a lot of side goals.
Taking away the ranking & awards would dull the game & would be a big step backwards.
1942 had 3d party ranking systems, now its built in, I like it better that way.
Beside this site wouldn't exist without all the stats & awards pages, everything else is just a bonus.

So I guess the answer is it would be fun, but fun like an unranked server. It would not end the tking for vehicles which I saw a lot of in BF1942 just with no repercussions. I know what your saying though, sometimes you just wanna play without worrying about all the crap, K/d, spm, whatever.
Thats usually when I start racking up the awards though.
Chorcai
Member
+49|7216|Ireland

rustynutz wrote:

I cant be arsed to read that so can u put in 1 or 2 sentences pls
You know he made some great points its pitty you didnt use your smartness and.. you.. know ....read it.
eagles1106
Member
+269|7152|Marlton, New Jersey.
i mainly made this thread because of the "awesomeness" of bf1942, and that didnt have ranks or stats or awards...
Dagger37A
Member
+18|7332|USA
I sure as hell wouldn't be wasting so much time as Anti-Tank if stats weren't involved... lol
SniperF0x
Member
+49|7093
If you don't like the hassle with stats and ranks, why don't you play on un-ranked servers?
elite
Member
+89|7282|Sheffield, England
try and search maybe dude!!
BlaZin'Feenix
I'm just that good
+156|7187|Cork, Ireland
Without awards and ranks, players have nothing to work for
Longbow
Member
+163|7214|Odessa, Ukraine
Leave ranks & unlocks , all other = trash.
edit : maybe badges & ribbons earned for play time

Last edited by Longbow (2006-07-16 05:10:08)

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