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english? plz
i3igpete
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basically, i've got the low end amd dual core processor cranked up 25%, and standard ddr1 memory cranked up 25% as well.
TuRfYMaN
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For $99 USD, this card looks pretty promising.  For some decent bechmark comparison, use Tom's Hardware VGA Charts.  Just choose the two graphics cards you want to compare, and the game to compare benchmarks, and click go.  Look for the two blue bars.  Just stay away from "super deals"  Like the $65 ATi x1300, it is a 'not so good' card.  Don't forget, as fon|sl4y3r said, you have to know the interface.  Otherwise you are not really making any progress towards finding what you need.

-Tom
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will this one do just fine? if anyone knows http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102651 256mg and 70$ US
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you dont own a PC or whole system yet... Hm, let me ask you one thing, what the hell would you do with a graphicscard only

So lets get back to the start. You are going to build a gaming rig, thats so far. Now answer the following:

1. how many money do you want to spend for it
2. is this rig only for gaming?
3. What do you want? Average performance or highend stuff?
4. have you ever build a rig yourself?
TuRfYMaN
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lol, I just told you to stay away from that card.  Please, please, please, don't get suckered into buying a crappy videocard, or you will never get this game to run at any descent speed.  Check The above post regarding Tom's VGA Charts.

-Tom
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=W=GeneralSherman wrote:

will this one do just fine? if anyone knows http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102651 256mg and 70$ US
not the best solution for gaming. I think this cards will only allow low end settings in 1024x768.

TuRfYMaN wrote:

lol, I just told you to stay away from that card.  Please, please, please, don't get suckered into buying a crappy videocard, or you will never get this game to run at any descent speed.  Check The above post regarding Tom's VGA Charts.

-Tom
what he said!!! A card for around 100 bucks is a no go for gaming!!!

So, just to make something clear girls! This is not a chatter, and if this continues, the thread is getting out of hand with 250 posts and none solved question.

So OP, please answer my questions and I guess we´ll find a solution for you.

Its useless to talk about a graphicscard as we dont know what you want to spend and what other system settings you have. The AGP8x or PCI-E interface question is a must been answered!!!
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fon|sl4y3r wrote:

you dont own a PC or whole system yet... Hm, let me ask you one thing, what the hell would you do with a graphicscard only

So lets get back to the start. You are going to build a gaming rig, thats so far. Now answer the following:

1. how many money do you want to spend for it
2. is this rig only for gaming?
3. What do you want? Average performance or highend stuff?
4. have you ever build a rig yourself?
1. i have a PC in mind to buy for 500$ US already with 1 gig... http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/ … &s=dhs   is the comp with 1 gig in it
2. yes
3. like mass game shack (like howies game shack)/internet cafe performance
4  no
i play at howiesgame shaclk ( howiesgameshack.com ) and i would alike a comp at home...i have a mac so io need a pc

Last edited by =W=GeneralSherman (2006-07-18 01:28:36)

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anyone have a good enmass game shack quality graphics card thatll work with that comp above with 1 gig ram and 2.53 ghz
TuRfYMaN
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Well... GeneralSherman,  Your Dell isn't going to be able to accept a new video card of this generation that would run BF2 well at all.

Slots   
3 PCI slots
There is no AGP or PCIe on this board.  (As far as I can tell...)   So it looks as if you might have to build/buy another PC with a different Mother Board.  http://www.dell.com/content/products/pr … tab#tabtop


-Tom

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ok man.

1. for around 500 US$ you´ll only get a rig at low end.

-->I suggest something like this:
CPU: AMD64 3200+-3800+ (not up to date but pretty cheap)
RAM: 1024MB PC3200 DDR333-400 CL3 (Kingston RAMs)
Mainboard: Asrock with PCI Interface, socket 939 (not up to date but cheap)
Graphics: Nvidia 7600 GT

2. this is a average config for playing BF2. Newer games like GhostRecon or stuff will not run pretty good
3. see above
4. well building a rig isnt as easy as it sounds if you havent done it before. Just ask a buddy or go for a OEM-rig (keep in mind, cheap systems or offers dont use uptodate hardware)
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Nice work fon|sl4y3r.  Thanks for the +1.

-Tom

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fon|sl4y3r wrote:

ok man.

1. for around 500 US$ you´ll only get a rig at low end.

-->I suggest something like this:
CPU: AMD64 3200+-3800+ (not up to date but pretty cheap)
RAM: 1024MB PC3200 DDR333-400 CL3 (Kingston RAMs)
Mainboard: Asrock with PCI Interface, socket 939 (not up to date but cheap)
Graphics: Nvidia 7600 GT

2. this is a average config for playing BF2. Newer games like GhostRecon or stuff will not run pretty good
3. see above
4. well building a rig isnt as easy as it sounds if you havent done it before. Just ask a buddy or go for a OEM-rig (keep in mind, cheap systems or offers dont use uptodate hardware)
im just using this for Bf2

will i be able to get a decent video card and run bf2 well with http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/ … &s=bsd

that is my question and my other question what card should i get that will run bf2 well and work with that comp

EDIT: thanks for the help from everyone keep p the info....like someone said...the thread has alot of posts and not very many answers...i just need one card

Last edited by =W=GeneralSherman (2006-07-18 01:41:16)

TuRfYMaN
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No, you can not expand on the offered onBoard Graphics on the mother board provided by Dell with that machine.  And again, since it only has PCI slots (not PCIe or AGP) you will not be able to buy another graphics card that would run BF2  very well at all.

Sorry to disappoint you, but you'll have a hard time trying to run any current generation game on a $500 machine, let alone a $500 Dell.

-Tom
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TuRfYMaN wrote:

Well... GeneralSherman,  Your Dell isn't going to be able to accept a new video card of this generation that would run BF2 well at all.

Slots   
3 PCI slots
There is no AGP or PCIe on this board.  (As far as I can tell...)   So it looks as if you might have to build/buy another PC with a different Mother Board.  http://www.dell.com/content/products/pr … tab#tabtop


-Tom
thats the computer i need? the one in the link? right there?
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This Dell Dimension 110 will not run BF2 in good settings!!!

It has a onboard graphics and no AGP8x or PCI-E interface. You will not be able to plugin another videocard, only a PCI based one. PCI is the oldest of all interfaces and the cards aviable are only to show Windows in 64bit. Gaming wont be fun!

Dont waste your money for this office system!

To be honest, gaming will not be funny on this thing!!!
medic.me.elmo
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7600gt or 7800gt...
i think the 7900gt 7950's are a waste of money because dx10 cards are just around the corner, so u shuld either get a cheaper vid card or hold out for a few months and well.....get prepared to pay ALOT of money for the nvidia 8 series.
TuRfYMaN
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Look at the model numbers, all I did was take the model number from this page (http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/ … &s=bsd) and Googled the model number, and it gave me this page (http://www.dell.com/content/products/fe … redirect=1)  Which I believe to be the same PCs as the Dimension 1100

It says at the bottom of the Dell Builder Page, this:
    Integrated 2.0 Channel Audio
    Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
    Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2  <--- This means onboard Video.

So, as I've seen with many Dell PCs, I would believe this to be the same situation.  There are no PCIe or AGP slots.  Therefore, you can not buy a graphics card for this machine that will run BF2 (basically).

I agree with fon|sl4y3r, don't waste your money.  It will not game.

If I you, I'd take the specs that fon|sl4y3r gave you, and find someone you know that likes PC and has built one before.  Otherwise, keep gaming at the Shack...

-Tom

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GOD!...so many posts no answers.... can some just plz give me the url of a good cheap pc that will be able to put in another graphics card and with run bf2 nicely and 2ndly

plz give me a url for a good cheap videocard
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Newegg PC

This PC has a Gefore MX4 APG4x card and is absolutley LOW END. You can replace this card with another AGP card, nothing more, nothing less!
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i'll check it out...stay close to this topic for there may be new questions posed
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I'm not changing my opinion since the last time this was asked. I'm with Lee Fat Choi, for he says:

BIG NUMBA FO GRAPHICS CARD! GOOD! YOU BUY BIGGEST NUMBA!
https://www.fotosearch.com/comp/CRT/CRT373/15436-14AP.jpg
I need around tree fiddy.
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does the computer allready have 1 gig ram?
TuRfYMaN
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First of all, I'm sorry you're frustrated, but this isn't rocket science.  There is no formula for "I have $500 to make BF2 run, how do I do it?"  So, while we are trying to help, you'll have to bear with us.  I honestly would really like to help you, but you are the one ultimately who will throw down the cash for this machine.  I would think you would want more than just some person's opinion of what to buy.

Secondly, why would you buy a PC w/o a graphics card that could run BF2, if that is what you want anyways?  It's usually cheaper for the OEM to bundle hardware than a consumer could buy it.  So, if you want a prebuilt machine, try to get one that will need 'minimal' upgrades to run BF2.

Next, I have a few questions.  (Which a few have been asked before...)

1) How much do you have to spend?  (Give me a definite number, and I'll be able to help you more.)
2) Would you be able to build a machine from parts?  (Definitely the most cost effective route.)
3) If you can't build one from parts, how about a 'barebones' system?  (This means most of the work is done, you just have to finish building it and add expansion cards.)


Finally, I ask you to do some shopping yourself.  Check sites like www.newegg.com , www.tigerdirect.com , www.froogle.com  just to name a few.  I'll try as best as I can to help you build a machine to run BF2. 

I have to sleep now, it is 5:30AM.  I'll PM you my e-mail address, just send me an e-mail, and we can converse over that medium rather than continuously posting on the BF2s.com forum.

-Tom
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=W=GeneralSherman wrote:

does the computer allready have 1 gig ram?
no, only 512 MB

man, you will not be lucky with such a system, thats for shure. Even if you put a better graphicscard into it, this system hasnt enough power to make BF2-Playing like it should be.

the CPU is low end
the RAM is low end
the GPU is low end

If you replace the GPU with a AGP card like ATI Radeon 9600XT 256MB (around 120 €), Nvidia Geforce FX5900 128MB (around 100-130 €) or Nvidia 6800GT 256MB (around 200-250 €) you will not be able to use high settings on this system, and like Ive said before, newer games will not even run!

I guess you have to look around for the parts I´ve suggested above, not for a OEM system, but like I´ve already said twice, for around 500 US$ you cant expect a good gaming rig!

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