BF2S Forums What do expert helo pilots do when lame gunners are abound?

k30dxedle wrote:

The vast majority of people who call people "n00bz" seem to think that they were insanely skilled at BF2 from birth.

Face it. Everyone has sucked at one time.

yup

I love haveing a new player in the gunner seat. Like when they shoot there mini gun at a tank or an APC and then use the tv missle for infantry. Those are my favorite gunners, extremely skilled....-.-

I can honestly say that i am an above average pilot. AND gunner. So when i'm flying on a pub server and a random hops in, they have one chance to prove themselves otherwise its

"Bail out!"
followed by
[M7] Zer0verride <team>:         Get out or die

then its redzone and off to either find a gunner i know i can trust, or solo. Because the truth of it is that an incompetent gunner is not only bringing the pilot down, but the whole team. When I can fly/gun with a decent other, my team need fear no tanks/apcs/choppers because my team know that Q-Click brings swift direct annihilation to anything big and scary that mops up ground-pounders.

The single most annoying thing in the game (besides PKM whores, nade spammers, idiot medics... ok theres a big list there) is to be a good gunner with a pilot who doesnt know how to fly calmly/line up TVs/etc.

For the record, i currently prefer piloting and i ALWAYS prefer a decent gunner to soloing, because while soloMGing is in my capabilities, i'd rather be able to dodge things. Opposition have a habit of trying to AT me.

</rant>

-[M7] Zer0verride

BTW, to any decent pilots/gunners/solos who can get a decent ping to australian servers, i'm half in the process of setting up an unofficial chopper tournament. If you're interested, PM or xfire me.

SargeV1.4 wrote:

I get angry, yell at them constantly, then tell them to piss off, otherwise I happily fly them to the edge of the map.

I am so sick of those players who seem to be blind, not shooting at any infantry. or the vast, vast majority of players who could not hit a chopper with a TV guided missle to save their mom.

oh right, because i'm sure everyone should be able to do that at the start of the game?

wth man? that's probably one of the most difficult things to do in this game (assuming the enemy chopper and/or your chopper are moving)

the only thing that is anywhere near that hard is hitting a high speed plane with a Tank shell or SRAW rocket

but yeah, i don't fly choppers much, and when i do, i always seem to have a good gunner/pilot... so whatever (about 40 of my 47 deaths were when i started the game... , i was like 0-40 or something before i started to get good)

I'm one of the assholes that takes off without a gunner and solo tv/gun shit...



....that is ofcourse unless I have one of my heli whore buddies on vent

kthx

if anybody ever needs a pretty good gunner that knows how to tv and knows when to gun send me an xfire im up for gunning for a good pilot anyday     xfire=hakeeem

I have spent most of my time in helos as the pilot, maybe 10% of it as gunner if I count high.
I’m pretty relaxed with having a newbe gunner, that’s not a big problem as long as they agree on joining my team or that I can join their team if they are already in one.
After that it’s just all about talking to each other and teach them how to be a good gunner, or if they are already are a good gunner then it’s just to learn each others play style so that you can anticipate what the person will do in a specific scenario.

I also have a lowest-quality-gunner-line that they must be better then to ride with me.
If they don’t pass it I will ask them to “bail out” or I will fly to a "redzone" with them.

But to pass it is pretty easy, a gunner that do communicate with me but misses easy targets with the missile is in my view still a decent gunner.
The missile is a hard thing to learn and I have no problem to spend some minutes in the beginning of our time to practice TV against enemies on the ground or mock targets like an empty building.
After a few test shots with the missile they will be able to kill ground targets easy, the helos are harder but nothing is impossible with some more training shots.

One of the best gunners I have had in the game was a newbe gunner when we meet.
He was about the same age as me 30+ and also an ex military, and after a few good laughs and way of targets missiles he became deadly as hell with it.
And the teamwork that we built up between us was really frightening to see, the enemy didn’t had a chance when we circled around the hotspots and gave support to our advancing units.
We waiting behind a ridge and fired missiles from behind it against the spotted mobil-AA, enemy helos and just raped their infantry when the coast was cleared.
If we missed a missile we just reloaded a new one and tried again, no need to rush.

To all the pilots that only gives the gunner One chance.
Try to talk to the gunner and give them more then one chance.
You might be surprised and find a new “gunner from hell”.





/Toxic

elmo1337 wrote:

DonFck wrote:

elmo1337 wrote:

Ive got my expert helicopter badge a couple of days ago, 100 hours of it piloting and such, I give everyone a chance when I feel like it, they miss everything or shoot in a straight line, back to carrier and tell them to bail out, rather fly alone

Dont bail out? mkkkkkk no fly zone

Sidenote:
Didn't you get owned by Uber some days ago?

Who is uber?

[FF]Uberstumbannfuhrer

Park them in the red zone ...........

I first attempt to coach them and make them better however if they are unwilling and don't listen then I will use whatever method I deem neccessary to eject them from the gunner seat.

ViP.ShooTa wrote:

I think ill drop my 2 cence in here

right history .. learnt to fly in beta and then solo'd in single then progressed .. was a clan gunner/pilot and then went into the GLobal ASsault tourny ... then 21CW and now i pretty much exclusivly play on ASoldierswar.com

why.... because of teamspeak and the fact i (due to my rank) get to choose my gunner

on Pubs if theres a few of us going on - yes obviously we go to both get the chopper - and this doesnt always work ..and if on pub play when i get a pilot that doesnt know shit /having a bad day .. or a gunner whos new..

I do the following .. chances to hit targets .. keeping myself and the helo alive ..
if hes' only using machine gun .. guess what .. i give him infantry targets..
ill take on the tanks/apcs.... and rack up nice loads of assists because im giving the gunner the easy stuff .

indeed theres times when i go solo .. but i would still choose a gunner .. why .. the extra pair of eyes .. even a noob gunner will shoot at a threat.

Then you have not flown with the baddest out there, people ive flown with were like

Mm a tree lets shoot it, overheat

Ok cool loads of infantry down there, oh shit ye his gun is overheated, when its cold again, he refuses to shoot.. it like: "Hi im blind"

if u get pissed off with a rubbish gunner, and kill him, or cuss him out. your a wanker and a nerd, end of story

I can't fly a helo for shit, I'm crap, I will hold my hands up and admit that.  If you look at my stats I have not spent much time in a chopper, but I think I am quite a good gunner (have tv missiled 3 planes don't know how hard this is but I was impressed).
I find that the PILOT makes the difference between a good gunner and a bad gunner, if you get a pilot that flys for themselves and only concentrates on missiling themselves rather than hovering just for 5 seconds so the gunner can line up a tv missile or pound those ground troops with the gun then you are gonna be a shit gunner cos you can't see where you are going and stuff to shoot till you have gone passed it (I appreciate that in a fight with another chopper it would be suicide to hover), the number of times I have been abused for being a so called shit gunner when the pilot has not hovered or flown so I can tvmissile is endless.
So all you pilots that moan about shit gunners think about whether you fly for your self or for your gunner
ok flame away dudes

Last edited by Jinto-sk (2006-07-18 05:08:51)