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New BFROE by NASTIE BUTLER, NA$TY BUTLER, NASTY BUTLER etc etc

We at EA are sorry for the gaping holes we have created in our software and the use of volunteers to threaten and harrass you, our customers, in an attempt to patch these flaws.  As an attempt to rectify this situation we have provided the following New Rules of Engagement.

1. Regarding the stats comparison system and the effect that leaderboards has had on this community, EA has officially terminated the stats comparing feature within its game as it has redirected the focus of the game from its orginal intent.  Player's attention will instead by drawn exclusively towards their own personal statistics alone within the BFHQ.   Each player will have the ability to compare their stats to others on a strictly voluntary basis outside of the BFHQ or any service associated with EA.  These comparison services will be available to players in the BF2 Community on third party programs and websites that will be able to pool these volunteers together for private leaderboards at their own descretion.  We at EA feel that this will eliminate the constant bickering, jealousy, and possible misuse of the given powers by constituants of private volunteer organizations such as BFMP and BF2Ranked Servers. 

With this understanding we feel this revised system will open up a fresh and creative way for players, if interested, to compare themselves to other players in "customized" manners with wieghts and measures dictated by the parties dedicated to creating such a program.  Since the comparisons will be community based and decentralised the popularity of these sites will depend entirely on the public opinion of the fairness of those particular sites and not the edict of a single corporation.  We expect to see renewed interest in this aspect of the game on a global scale due to the fact that we are essentially giving this power back to our players and enriching their level of involvement outside of the actual game itself.

2. It will be the sole responsibility of server admins to monitor the behavior of the players using their respective servers.   If an admin feels that a player is abusing a game mechanic and/or denying other players the ability to enjoy a fair game due to their own definition of "statspadding" we are sure that in the interest of upholding the server's reputation the moderators will see to it on their own time.  This system has worked for many years in multiplayer environments and we expect it to do so for BF2 equally.

3. EA will not be responsible for the erasing of any of our customer's statistics from this point forward.  Despite our best intentions the margin of error when factoring in falsified evidence, misuse of the reporting system, miscommunication, and additional errors is incalculable and the wrongful punishment of one innocent customer cannot be risked as it has in the past.  Statistics no longer have a need to be attended to as they are now strictly proprietary.  The third party programs and websites previously mentioned have the abillity to maintain their own credibility by denying access to those accounts they feel are misused.

4. Furthermore, We at EA will promise to focus our attention on the real bane of multiplay gamers everywhere by battling the abuse of  third party programs (hacks) instead of tieing up almost unending man hours to monitor tens of thousands of players personal behavior.  All staff involved with monitoring and punishing those that are felt to be abusing the system for gain in the leaderboards are now focusing on this task.

There you go Indian.............I told you before I feel sorry for you man.  I hope you can pull this off and actually enjoy this game.  I do everyday and I have been wiped twice!!

Last edited by NASTY_BUTLER (2006-07-20 15:15:22)

NASTY_BUTLER wrote:

New BFROE by NASTIE BUTLER, NA$TY BUTLER, NASTY BUTLER etc etc
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i fully agree with this.. Butler (and TOP) for the win..

and a question to you IndianScout: do you get paid for enforcing these rules? is that why you're so desperate to hang onto them?

Butler's rules here cover most aspects of gameplay without spoiling fun..

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

Butler if you cant contribute contructively go somewhere else, it's not needed

Actually... he WAS being constructive.. this is how a lot of us feel about the whole situation

Last edited by spawnofthemist (2006-07-20 15:10:38)

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

Butler if you cant contribute contructively go somewhere else, it's not needed

Indian my post is sincere.  In fact its the first serious post on this topic.

If you can't read my post objectively then I am sorry.  I felt that we saw eye to eye in our last conversation and you would see that I am an actual person with true passion for this game.

Listen, I have discovered that there are too many rules in online video games.  Aside from the rules in-game there are ROEs, EULAs, addiontal behavioral rules for clans etc etc.

Online gaming systems seem to work better when you turn them over to the people. 

I am proud of my community and of what it has become on its own.  Instead of additional rules dictated to our members we have a "bill of rights" that is given to them with powers unheard of in a traditional clan.  In that we have grown beyond what I ever thought was possible and have formed a true community based on friendship. 

I think this will work for BF2 as well.

Please Indian read it again........objectively.....and respond.   PM me if you want to have a personal conversation. 

PS  I feel that if I was given a session with the decision makers at EA I could contibute constructively to any attempt to derive a system that appeals to the masses.  I have a "vision" of what is possible here and I am always happy to share it.  I have the ability to hold a pretty good conversation as well.

Last edited by NASTY_BUTLER (2006-07-20 15:23:49)

stryyker wrote:

Here are the rules by which i live, and end up being very sucessful.

1. No hacking. Hacks show incompetence in the gaming community

2. Regarding server-enabled rules (no baserape, etc.)
-if things are put in the game, they should be used. Why else are there uncapturable bases, if we have to wait for people to spawn, leave, and then take another base before killing them, in the meantime, lowering my teams tickets, please.

3. You should be able to teamkill whenever you want, but get kicked after a certain amount.

4. High point servers are fine, a good way to get awards, and have fun with a small group of people, not an army of smurfs.

5. Knife/Pistol servers should be allowed, because you will never be able to stop them.

6. Glitches should be avoided, but not bypassed

7. Stat padding. According to your tight ass rules, killing someone, then having them revived, only for me to kill them once more is stat padding. I mean for fucks sake, and form of gaining points could be construed as stat padding.




Rules for the People, By the People, even though you wont read any of these or consider them


edited: And IndianScout, please inform me as to how you personally were able to gain the power to control other peoples gameplay.

What most go by, and in the process we break like 4 or 5 rules.

OK ok ....My previous post was a lil too "sharp edged" so let me soften it up and possibly influence Indian postively:

New BFROE by NASTIE BUTLER, NA$TY BUTLER, NASTY BUTLER etc etc

1. Regarding the stats comparison system and the effect that leaderboards has had on this community, EA has officially terminated the stats comparing feature within its game as it has redirected the focus of the game from its orginal intent which is teamplay.  Player's access to stats will be limited ingame exclusively to their own personal statistics and no others.   Each player will have the ability to compare their stats to others on a strictly voluntary basis outside of the BFHQ or any service associated with EA.  These comparison services will be available to players in the BF2 Community on third party programs and websites that will be able to pool these volunteers together for private leaderboards at their own descretion. 

With this understanding we feel this revised system will open up a fresh and creative way for players, if interested, to compare themselves to other players in "customized" manners with wieghts and measures dictated by the parties dedicated to creating such a program.  Since the comparisons will be community based and decentralised the popularity of these sites will depend entirely on the public opinion of the fairness of those particular sites and not the edict of a single corporation.  We expect to see renewed interest in this aspect of the game on a global scale due to the fact that we are essentially giving this power back to our players and enriching their level of involvement outside of the actual game itself.

2. It will be the sole responsibility of server admins to monitor the behavior of the players using their respective servers.   If an admin feels that a player is abusing a game mechanic and/or denying other players the ability to enjoy a fair game due to their own definition of "statspadding" we are sure that in the interest of upholding the server's reputation the moderators will see to it on their own time.  This system has worked for many years in multiplayer environments and we expect it to do so for BF2 equally.

3. EA will not be responsible for the erasing of any of our customer's statistics from this point forward.  Despite our best intentions the margin of error when factoring in falsified evidence, misuse of the reporting system, miscommunication, and additional errors is incalculable and the wrongful punishment of one innocent customer cannot be risked as it has in the past.  Statistics no longer have a need to be attended to as they are now strictly proprietary.  The third party programs and websites previously mentioned have the abillity to maintain their own credibility by denying access to those accounts they feel are misused.


Ok indian...this is the version without the ire that I have personally collected in my experiences.  Please read the real message this is conveying and respond with your thoughts.

no hacking
no camping spawnpoints w/ armor

IndianScout, please answer me this question; Inform me as to how you personally were able to gain the power to control other peoples gameplay.

its a valid question, please answer it.

The New ROE

1.  No hacking, via third party programs or changing core game files.

2.  No purposely leaving and ignoring the battlefield to boost personal stats or awards

3.  Server admins may not purposely limit what players can use in-game, basically 'if its in the game you can do it'

4.  No glitching into objects that are not enterable by standard means.







The end.  Nothing else is needed besides the above posted rules.

EA authorizes the ROE.

I think someone already said this, but EA should get rid of the leaderboards, it would stop people from stats padding since they wouldn't even know where they are placed in the world, but only you should be able to see your stats, since you need it for unlocks and such. Also a comment, if you're getting baseraped, spawn somewhere else, or leave, it's not too hard. Punkbuster takes care of hacks too. Glitches are being fixed. The curse filter should be already set so you can't make a word like "butter" get you kicked. That sums up my thoughts on this.

Rofl @ IndianScout, what a f**king e-tard. Grow up dude, its just a game, Nobody cares about your stupid ROE. Perhaps you would be better off joining the police force or something…

I guess the police wouldn’t take a 12 year old geek huh?

Last edited by Kobrakai (2006-07-20 18:28:27)

Alright:

I will be updating this as I think of more things.

1.) If hacking or gliching is done then your CD key is banned.
2.) Do not stat pad.( STATS WILL NOT BE RESET WITHOUT 100% PROOF!)
3.) No Racism
4.) No abuse of admins powers(Ill trust you guys to think up a punishment for this, please dont fuck up)
5.) Excessive teamkilling will cause stats reset and if done again CD key banned.(I mean scores like -100 or what ever)
6.) Server Rules must be posted in the loading screen and scroll in game. All kicks/bans done by admins must be monitored(dont know how this would be possible though).
7.) Server administrators may not change any settings in a ranked server.
8.) Custom Maps are aloud on ranked servers.
9.) High points servers are aloud, I dont see whats wrong with them, I think there stupid because there boring and you get a realy low SPM on them.
10.)