I descided just there to go have a shot on dalian, (first time in weeks) and found no problems, all the officers where on PLA waitin for there beloved J-10 while me and my clan mate took a bh, and caped the northern flags, then when the j-10s attacked them, we snuck around, caped the rest, and had out cobra's rape the pla all round, muahahahaah
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What should be done?
| Balance out the J10 with the other planes in the game | 38% | 38% - 23 | ||||
| Give mobile AA and upgrade the Essex AA | 27% | 27% - 16 | ||||
| Delay the spawning of aircraft (Dalian in particular) | 5% | 5% - 3 | ||||
| Make the BH's flares work better | 8% | 8% - 5 | ||||
| Leave it as it is | 20% | 20% - 12 | ||||
| Total: 59 | ||||||
Uh WRONG! The one in BF2 is based off the current USS Essex (The US navy does reuse ship names).Ekapah wrote:
I'd like to see a REAL carrier, the one in bf2 is a WWII carrier, the one above is actually called a command vessle and most ended use after Vietnam.
Link: http://www.essex.navy.mil/
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lhd-1.htm
The current command ships used by the Navy are the Blue Ridge class which look nothing like an LHD.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lcc-19.htm
Last edited by The_Fighting_69th (2006-07-20 18:09:52)
So, what your saying is that this wouldn't work - http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/lav-ad.htmMouse315 wrote:
Mobile AA wouldn't work on Dalian unless the US could capture a base. It would have to be boat mounted to stop jets from attacking the carrier, which already has its own AA.
AMPHIBIOUS: Capable of fording streams, rivers, and inland water ways with minimal preparation.
I would stop right were you are at and take your foot and put it in your mouth. Since the LAV is a Amphibious Vehicle. It would totally work. Give me one good reason why someone couldn't drive this right out the back of the carrier or off the little island near the Arty on Dalian Plant. Please just stop and like I said insert your foot in your mouth.
Last edited by PFCStenzel (2006-07-20 18:26:33)
You mean this right The_Fighting_69th
Correct that appears to be the USS WASP, the lead ship of the class.
I wish we had the LAV-AD's in some of these maps. They would be much better then the stupid linebacker which the Army mainly uses.
I don't mind the M6 Linebacker in the game, it can really mess up the infantry, lol. However the USMC does not use any bradleys or linebackers in the real world. If I recall the only real ADA the USMC has is the Avenger with is 8 stingers mounted on a hummve.
a jet being able to take out the AA on a carrier before the carrier can get a lock is unrealistic it would make for more better gameplay thoughUSAFDude_1988 wrote:
Swapping the F-35 for the F-22 isn't a good idea. First of all, this is about the F-35's performance. Just because Dice screwed up the F-35 doesn't mean it should be replaced by an F-22. Chances are that the Raptor would have its performance screwed up by Dice too.Bell wrote:
Swap the F-35 for the F-22 Raptor ( I think that is what it is called ) erm, aye n maybe it will all be ok? Seriously though, if ur in an f-35 and u see a j-10 keep out his way, however if u find ur self in the position ur tailing him, fire every God damm missile u have at the bastard before he gets time to react. What I would really like to see, is the F-35 to match the J-10, and see the essex given APC like armour, that way J-10 boys can go into that carrier zone, but they may not come out......... HAPPY DAYS!!!!
Thing I have also said on a server about wake island, how about on carrier levels. give the usmc the option of an ariel drop, just like for the SAS or warlord, sf map.
Cya
Second of all, the F-35B is built specifically for operations off of Marine assault ships, like the Essex. The F-22 is a land-based superiority fighter for the Air Force.
Third of all, the F-22 is a stealth fighter.. and if Dice realistically included the stealth charateristic.. it would make the plane the dominant vehicle in whatever map it was placed in.Mobile AA on the carrier is unrealistic. The real Essex has three CIWS systems (the AA). For some dumbass reason, Dice decided to only include two. In reality, there are two CIWS turrets at the stern of the carrier - one on each side. Dice consolidated the two turrets at the rear into one large one - which obstructs the flight deck to passing F-35s that are rearming and repairing. If Dice made the Essex accurately, it would be certain death for any spawn rapers - they might manage to get one.. but the other would certainly destroy the aircraft.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Maybe if the AA on the carrier was moble like it had a slide bar or something to avoid ever jet pilots line. Because you don't even get a lock and the bullets from the jet are already flying down at the AA.
In this picture, you can clearly see the two turrets at the stern of the ship, both clearly below the flight deck.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ … asp209.jpg
The problem is more like the F35B is just screw in A2A combat. The plane is nowhere near its full capabilitys. This game is about gameplay first. And all the advatages that the F35 has are neglected in this game. Realy kinda sad how bad they screwed this up. Real battles with a carrier are not fought in a are that is like 3km*3km(around the size or wake island). EA/DICE realy need to get there shit together with this game.
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