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2006-07-21 19:19:33
ShotYourSix
Boldly going nowhere...
+196|7166|Las Vegas
Page 14 of my BF2 manual clearly states:

BF2 Manual wrote:

You can disable an opponent's UAV and radar scan capabilities by destroying the radar equipment at their home base (but beware - your opponent can do the same to you).
Dunno, what the Pixel Police training manual has to say about this, but I'm going strictly by the book.....I'll place arty any goddamn where I please thank-you.
2006-07-21 22:12:58
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7128|Disaster Free Zone

pwn3d123456 wrote:

A whole lot of copied Bull Shit from JaM3z
It has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with this thread or have any relevance to what he is trying to point out. the tread was closed and all treads debating the ROE should be because there is nothing in any tread written by anyone who has actually read the fucking thing and gone through it and said why the rules are bad for game play and make you change how you play the fucking game.

Everyones just a bunch of lazy morons who cant read so come up with a 3 line alternative which say exactly the same thing just with no detail or examples. People are not complaining that the ROE are bad there complaining thats its 2 pages long and there retarded and cant read.

Please explain why rules to stop stat padding are so bad, Unless your a stat padder yourself in which case i have no fucking sympathy at all and would report you myself if i could be fucked. IDK how many have actually read the ROE or are just ignorant sheep who follow the retards who start these stupid threads to get attention. Before anyone should post anything maybe they should read WTF they are posting about and come to an informed decision instead of reading a quote out context like "no base raping" and then going OMG ZOMG WTF THATS BS ROE DIE!!! If you bothered to read anything you would know that the original posters such as cougar, jamez, butler etc have no fucking idea. Just because they can make long winded posts about the how BF2 police destroying the game through a set of rules which probably less then 0.1% of those posting has effected let alone let alone the whole BF2 community doesn't mean they are right.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2006-07-22 03:10:37)

2006-07-22 04:02:07
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7163

ShotYourSix wrote:

Page 14 of my BF2 manual clearly states:

BF2 Manual wrote:

You can disable an opponent's UAV and radar scan capabilities by destroying the radar equipment at their home base (but beware - your opponent can do the same to you).
Dunno, what the Pixel Police training manual has to say about this, but I'm going strictly by the book.....I'll place arty any goddamn where I please thank-you.
they have pwned themselves methinks, ok my real ROE

No KP servers
High points allow (who really gives a shit about badges.... every1 can go to high point and get them, no bitching there)
Admins have rights to kick ppl for vehicle. sounds bad i know, but they pay for the servers, dont ya think they should have control over the game a bit? if you dont like it join EA official servers then.
if you are caught stat padding, wipe.
If you have wierd impossbile commander score like 42324 points in a round for command, you can keep it. EA should fix the goddamn bug not wipe ppl
Baserapes are allowed
stealing vehicles are allowed
Swearing is allowed, the game is rated fucking teen, not for little kiddies. but no rascism, rascism may result in probly 2 hour ban from all punkbuster servers, not wipe.

rules for reporting:

if sum1 is clearly a good player and you report him, you get 20 hour ban in bf2 punkbuster enabled servers
do not revenge report, if sum1 reports you and you find out who, do not report that person simply of revenge
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2006-07-22 05:05:53
xWSxCriminalx
Member
+40|6984
The best ROE is NO ROE.
2006-07-22 10:47:53
Sgt.Davi
Touches Himself At Night.
+300|7090|England
I don't know why you bother with the ROE when you don't enforce it. First there are tons of Knife and Pistol servers sticking their fingers up at you and you aren't doing shit. Second you have some sensible rules (no hacks) but no c4 ramming? Wtf? How else are we meant to take out tanks? The rocket launchers you prgrammed aren't worth fuck and can't take down a tank by the time it get's to a supply crate... and the reload time on those things is stupid, why does it take the US guy so long to throw a tube to the ground and get a fresh one? He fucking places it on the ground like he would a child

Last edited by Sgt.Davi (2006-07-23 04:14:13)

2006-07-22 10:49:45
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|7089|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

Sgt.Davi wrote:

people who use words such as noobsville (see page 3 or 4)
not defending anyone here..

but noobsville is a well known hack site..
2006-07-22 11:03:17
Chuckles
Member
+32|6995

Sgt.Davi wrote:

I don't know why you bother with the ROE when you don't enforce it. First there are tons of Knife and Pistol servers sticking their fingers up at you and you aren't doing $hit.
I agree.  You can write a hundred ROE's, but if you don't enforce them they don't matter.  You don't even have to search for pistol/knife servers to find them because there's so many out there.  Why so many?  No fear of the ROE guys.

What's the point?  If you're not going to enforce rules, don't have them at all.  And before you ask people to make new ones, why not enforce the ones you've already got?
2006-07-22 11:20:14
-Gunsmoke-
Member
+165|7082|South Jersey
Write my own ROE?  There should be no ROE.  Everyone should play nice, instead of EA having to write a ROE for people to "follow"  Just my 0.02
2006-07-22 17:34:54
Harmonics
A stabbing fatality
+22|6950
Rules in games are stupid.

I agree with no hacking etc. Thats just obvious.

I see people whining "oh its not fair - they're base raping us"

BOO HOO. ITS WAR. WAR IS NOT FAIR.

I never have and never will give my enemy a chance, even if that means dropping bomb after bomb on their carrier or what not.

Indianscouts proposals are just retarded. Stopping c4 ramming, are you serious? Moron.

WE DO NOT NEED A ROE.

If it wasnt intended to be played this way, make it so it cant be done. Not so we have an option to do it.

"CODE IT, DONT ROE IT"

AA was put in uncaps for a reason. To defend against attacks. Stop whining.

This game has already been nerfed enough by complaining noobs and it seems to be getting even worse. Soon we'll all be just running about with water pistols.
2006-07-23 13:52:34
alpinestar
Member
+304|7043|New York City baby.
who teh fuck needs ROE ? Doesn't common sense make up for it ?
2006-07-23 16:12:13
USAFDude_1988
Will fly for food.
+120|6956|Daytona Beach, FL
TKing is allowed.
2006-07-23 16:49:49
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7067|Mhz

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

Kobrakai wrote:

Rofl @ IndianScout, what a f**king e-tard. Grow up dude, its just a game, Nobody cares about your stupid ROE. Perhaps you would be better off joining the police force or something…

I guess the police wouldn’t take a 12 year old geek huh?
I take it your one of the people who cant seem to abide by a given set of rules..

your use of profanity leads me to believe your the 12 year old..

ty,,  please drive thru..
I stopped reading here as uve shown urself to be no better than the rest of the immature people you were attempting to put down, and I personally hope any superiors you have get to read this thread.

This is how i see things... its a game it dosnt require rules, if something isnt allowed/spoils game play prevent it from happening, dont tell people not to do it coz you know full well that they will anyway. End.
2006-07-23 23:13:10
RGB|Apocalypse
Member
+1|7208
Ok.. Am not sure if this would be read since threads around here don't get flame free after 4 pages... lol..

Anyway, my view is that there should be no ROE at all. This is not whining but words from someone who really wants to enjoy this game. Am sure many agrees with me.

Let me ask you what does the ROE achieve? Levels the playing field? Make the game fair? Please... Rules are stupid if you cannot enforce it. It makes the person who sets the rules looks stupid. ROE has been compared to laws IRL as to rules in game. But let me ask you, can you say that laws are effective without a full police force? Without a proper judgement system? Am sure your answer is no.

Let's say that the rules are effectively enforced, what are the punishment? IRL, you will merely get a slap on the wrist for stealing a pack of gums BUT you get life prisonment for killing someone. How does this scale to the ROE world? All you have to 'threaten' everyone is a stat reset.. So if the arsehat wants to break the rules, would he stop at 'stealing candies'? Or 'killing someone'? Think about it. ROE is useless in implementation and enforcement...

Believe it or not, you CAN code most of the rules. No fly zone. Full auto AA emplacement on uncappable base are just examples. ROE is just being lazy, like Dice/EA has been thruout BF2. TKers and the typical arsehats will not be a problem in game if only it has a more effective voting system. This has worked in many games.

I actually pity you guys into letting EA fool you to believing that you actually make a difference by coming up with the ROE... You are mere scapegoats for their incompetence.

For goodness sake, if you really must have a ROE or you can't live on. Make it simple and foolproof. I read before that you 'IndianScout' has a double degree, don't they teach you that?.. Having ambiguous rules for difference servers is just plain wrong and defeat the purpose of having rules under the same stat systems. What makes 'private servers' so special that they have to be given another set of rules under the same stats? Make all servers comply to a SINGLE set of rules.

Just for a matter of personal opinion, IndianScout. I guess you feel very often that people hate you and should you think its any surprise? Do you think its just because of the ROE? As a 'director' of the ROE, you ought to have better tone in your words. Don't give me the shit that you are not a native English speaker. Am not too. Your condescending tone is more than putting off people trying to make a decent conversation, albeit on a forum.

All a matter of my personal opinion, take it or leave it. Thanks.
2006-07-23 23:19:59
RGB|Apocalypse
Member
+1|7208

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

2nDChancE wrote:

Ok, I'll indulge you IndianScout, but before I do, please enlighten us all on one point. Of the 250 or so mainsteam FPS titles released over the last 6 - 8 years, why did you feel BF2 needed some ROE? I mean seriously, you're telling people what they can or can't do in a f**king game. That doesn't sound like the most absurd thing you've ever heard?
Alot of future games like 2142, Crysis, the new AA, QW:ET and more will all have ranking or honor systems, and most if not all will have an ROE in place, so it's something we all will have to get used too..
Awww.. now you are just plain lying.. Don't you dare quote QW:ET which is not even an EA game.. Firstly the game is not even released. Secondly, it has been said before by the devs that the stats will not have actual ranks but just stats for personal reference. How can you even blatantly think that the world has to do your ROE bidding?...
2006-07-23 23:25:59
oberst_enzian
Member
+234|7190|melb.au
Rule 1: If there is incontovertible evidence that you have used a hack, you will be banned and/or reset.
Rule 2: If there is incontovertible evidence that you intentionally exploit a glitch in game maps that leaves you unreachable or invisible to enemy players, you will be banned and/or reset.

No other rules necessary or wanted.

Last edited by oberst_enzian (2006-07-23 23:27:12)

2006-07-24 00:17:59
Defiance
Member
+438|7118

We don't need a new ROE.

Addendum I: If you don't like the current ROE, don't play the game.

Do we really need anything else? The majority of people bitching about the ROE are doing so because they saw someone else be effected by it. Not themselves.

2nDChancE wrote:

Ok, I'll indulge you IndianScout, but before I do, please enlighten us all on one point. Of the 250 or so mainsteam FPS titles released over the last 6 - 8 years, why did you feel BF2 needed some ROE? I mean seriously, you're telling people what they can or can't do in a f**king game. That doesn't sound like the most absurd thing you've ever heard?
This question is the most absurd thing I've ever heard of. I think Indian put it too softly to protect himself (maybe?) so here's the harsher version.

The ROE is in place to protect the validity of the ranking system, so it's not abused. Makes sense, people want accurate stats.

Look how many people on BF2s will flip out and try to report stat padders. There's your proof of the ROEs success. Well, that and the fact that these forums are home to many less then coherent beings.

If you want to play around, play on an unranked server. EA has no control and no reason to control or even the want to control you on those servers because it doesn't effect them.

The ROE effects ranked servers. That's it. Want to fuck around? Get off the ranked server when you do so.

End of story.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-24 00:22:46)

2006-07-24 05:07:44
TimBob
Member
+15|7100
1. You must flip at least 1 jeep and repair in the back per day.
2. You must abuse and glitches within in the game as EA/Dice obviously put them there for a reason.
3. Stat pad at least twice a day.

Hope to see you all in the Hotel!

Why bother asking people for a ROE on here.....most of these guys don't know what battlefield 2 is, they just sit and post on here all day....
2006-07-24 05:13:47
Sgt.Davi
Touches Himself At Night.
+300|7090|England

Sgt.Davi wrote:

I don't know why you bother with the ROE when you don't enforce it. First there are tons of Knife and Pistol servers sticking their fingers up at you and you aren't doing shit. Second you have some sensible rules (no hacks) but no c4 ramming? Wtf? How else are we meant to take out tanks? The rocket launchers you prgrammed aren't worth fuck and can't take down a tank by the time it get's to a supply crate... and the reload time on those things is stupid, why does it take the US guy so long to throw a tube to the ground and get a fresh one? He fucking places it on the ground like he would a child
No comment, indianscout?
2006-07-24 05:32:46
gameaddict
Member
+35|7127|let op drempels

Defiance wrote:

2nDChancE wrote:

Ok, I'll indulge you IndianScout, but before I do, please enlighten us all on one point. Of the 250 or so mainsteam FPS titles released over the last 6 - 8 years, why did you feel BF2 needed some ROE? I mean seriously, you're telling people what they can or can't do in a f**king game. That doesn't sound like the most absurd thing you've ever heard?
Look how many people on BF2s will flip out and try to report stat padders. There's your proof of the ROEs success.
uh succes?? yeah so many get reported but how many actually get reset i reported a guy 5-6 months ago with hard evidence (the dude was in karkand hotel) and he is still not reset.
so 1:no hacking
2:no cheating
and thats it.

Last edited by gameaddict (2006-07-24 05:34:10)

2006-07-24 05:40:55
l41e
Member
+677|7095

Whatever the ROE is, some moron will always just go around feeling l33t and rebellious and breaking all the rules whatever they are.

But anyway, here's my ROE:

Baseraping: Determined by server.
Bunnyhopping/prone spamming: Being coded out by 1.4 - no need.
Hacking: Not allowed. If caught, reset and hardware ban.
Glitching: Not allowed. If caught, reset, then code out with next patch. Second time, reset again. Third time, hardware ban.
Racism/verbal abuse: Not allowed.
Stat padding: Not allowed. If caught, reset, and hardware ban. (seriously, if you have nothing better to worry about than e-statistics for a computer game, a hardware ban should let you go outside for once in your life)
Whining about the ROE anti-constructively or immaturely: Not allowed. Hardware ban.
2006-07-24 05:46:35
Zilla
Killa of threads
+122|7088|7th level of hell

Indian Scout and his butt-buddies can shove the current ROE up their asses. nobody pays any fucking attention to them anyway, and alot of these asshat admins do whatever the fuck they want, regardless of the almighty law of "ROE".

Last edited by Zilla (2006-07-24 05:46:51)

2006-07-24 15:17:45
Chuckles
Member
+32|6995

Sgt.Davi wrote:

Sgt.Davi wrote:

I don't know why you bother with the ROE when you don't enforce it. First there are tons of Knife and Pistol servers sticking their fingers up at you and you aren't doing shit. Second you have some sensible rules (no hacks) but no c4 ramming? Wtf? How else are we meant to take out tanks? The rocket launchers you prgrammed aren't worth fuck and can't take down a tank by the time it get's to a supply crate... and the reload time on those things is stupid, why does it take the US guy so long to throw a tube to the ground and get a fresh one? He fucking places it on the ground like he would a child
No comment, indianscout?
What's he going to say?  It's true.  Other than that he didn't do any of the coding.

They don't enforce it because EA doesn't want to make anybody mad.  They've got 2142 coming out soon, with supposedly another ROE.

EA was stupid for making you have to get certain amounts of knife or pistol kills in order to advance in rank.  That's just asking for knife/pistol servers.  Meanwhile, they're so frantic and crazy fun that they are super popular.  And since they don't enforce their toothless ROE the KP servers are always there and always populated.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're not going to enforce the rules, don't make them in the first place.

Last edited by Chuckles (2006-07-24 15:18:13)

2006-07-24 15:26:09
HeimdalX
Member
+37|7098
No stat padding.

No hacking.

2 simple rules.

Why are you all against or kissing IndianScout's ass anyway? His BFROE site isn't even sanctioned by EA. They've said for months they'll be put on EA's site. Isn't yet now is it? Down with clowns thinking they can run a game they don't even play. Fuck you IndianScout.
2006-07-24 18:46:57
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7211|Dallas
No kill/rev loops.  No hacking.

Thats IT!

Make it a server to server rule basis.  They pay for the server, therfore they should be able to allow whatever rules they wish.  Let me repeat that, They pay real life money to have these servers.  If they don't want spawn camping, thats their choice, if they do want it, that is their choice as well.  This long list of ROE bullshit that EVERYONE, regardless of who they are, have to abide by, is udder bullshit.  The servers who have unfavorable rules would be weeded out by no one wanting to play there and the good servers with good rules would always be populated and be a role model for other srvers.

That is the only ROE you need.  Now step down off of your paint horse and get into the reservation of logical thinking.  It's a FUCKING GAME you nitwits!
2006-07-24 18:52:36
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|7010|British Columbia, Canada

Cougar wrote:

No kill/rev loops.  No hacking.

Thats IT!

Make it a server to server rule basis.  They pay for the server, therfore they should be able to allow whatever rules they wish.  Let me repeat that, They pay real life money to have these servers.  If they don't want spawn camping, thats their choice, if they do want it, that is their choice as well.  This long list of ROE bullshit that EVERYONE, regardless of who they are, have to abide by, is udder bullshit.  The servers who have unfavorable rules would be weeded out by no one wanting to play there and the good servers with good rules would always be populated and be a role model for other srvers.

That is the only ROE you need.  Now step down off of your paint horse and get into the reservation of logical thinking.  It's a FUCKING GAME you nitwits!
Sounds good to me..

 

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