Poll

What do you prefer?

I earn my promotions in the Field61%61% - 66
I exploit others by command to get my promotions6%6% - 7
WTF??? I don't care!32%32% - 35
Total: 108
Starfleet1403
...to bodly spawn where no one has spawned before!
+66|7189|Born in West-Berlin
Okay,

there is a friend of mine. He got BF2 in June this year and played it ever since. What disturbs me is the following:

Everytime he fanatically tries to become Commander. Most of the Time he commands, he just sucks. I mean he ignores Request, like I am request new orders and he needs 3 Minutes to react. I need a Vehicle, nothing happens neither an Accept nor an Reject.

So the Team works their asses off to win the round and that lame ass Guy is rewarded with the 2x Win Bonus.
Yesterday he made Sergeant. But from his his 2500 Pts. there are 1300 Commander Points. Somehow that is getting me pissed.

Don't get me wrong. Having a Commander is great, when he contributes to the team. IMHO I think promotions are earned in the field and not by laying back and exploiting the skilled guys.

What do you think?
p1.topher
Member
+16|7054|USA
Teach him how to command. If he's new, maybe he just doesn't know how. But if he's exploiting it on purpose, MUTINY!
Airwolf
Latter Alcoholic
+287|7286|Scotland
I hate servers that you can't mutiny, terrible tbh.


But I feel you, if he's your friend, speak to himin person
Jussimies
Finnish commander whore
+76|7151|Finland
I have played lots of time commanding, but if i command I think I earn my points not exploit other players. I can still play good infantry, tank and plane.
MDW
Member
+43|7243|Dortmund, Germany
In the field. Even if I can't make enough points, it's still fun.
There's nothing worse than being commander of a sucka$$ team which also loses all the time and refuses to follow your orders...
jkohlc
2142th Whore
+214|7093|Singapore
i just get my promotions anyway i like...as long as i get promoted
Starfleet1403
...to bodly spawn where no one has spawned before!
+66|7189|Born in West-Berlin

Jussimies wrote:

I have played lots of time commanding, but if i command I think I earn my points not exploit other players. I can still play good infantry, tank and plane.
Assuming that your Command Style contributes to the team, i concur. But the Guy I'm talking about is just taking the Position of Commander. His Command Style is non-existent. He lets the team down and profits from the team efforts. Unfortunately, everytime I try to mutiny I don't get the votes necessary.
YoBabysDaddy
Member
+31|7390|St. Louis, MO
With your whole 711 command points I guess you would know huh?
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7248|Disaster Free Zone
I think no one tries to win but me half the time, so when ever i go commander the 'smurfs' do fuck all about capturing flags and we lose. So next round some jackass who couldn't command for a shit gets 2x points because i put in the effort to win the round. with a half competent team i wont lose as commander but most of the time the teams are filled with jerks who stand around waiting for vehicles while the 3-5 of the other team captures every single flag.
I want to command more and i want to get my WCR which I should already have, but to command means our team loses one of its best flag capturing ground pounders. (sounds arrogant i know but unfortunately its the truth)
AK5489
Member
+16|7074|US

MDW wrote:

In the field. Even if I can't make enough points, it's still fun.
There's nothing worse than being commander of a sucka$$ team which also loses all the time and refuses to follow your orders...
being commander of a shit team that doesnt follow orders is worse than having a shit commander IMO
uk-anubis-uk
Member
+21|7088
There is plenty of things wrong with Commanding! Hmmm lets see ig i drop a box next to this Artilliary gun it should fix it??????? er NO!!! I cant believe you can just go commander and get kills with artilliary and it counts towards your badges! I didnt even realise this till the other day because i am harldy ever commander, well i am now because i need command time for badges, but i was sitting on and AA gun commanding whilst doing a bit of Essex defence (we was on Wake getting a raping) I only shot down bout 4 jets but artied the hell out of em and started getting Air Defence ribbon???? i was like huh? i havent used air defence to kill anythin but i got air defence ribbon! Bit cheap if u ask me! All the nUUbs who cant go sniper and get 35 kills in a round are starting to go commander to get thier badges therefor replacing thier Rifles and Pistols with massive cannons??? thats clearly not a Expert Sniper!!! Silly just another thing that EA cocked up!
AK5489
Member
+16|7074|US

uk-anubis-uk wrote:

There is plenty of things wrong with Commanding! Hmmm lets see ig i drop a box next to this Artilliary gun it should fix it??????? er NO!!! I cant believe you can just go commander and get kills with artilliary and it counts towards your badges! I didnt even realise this till the other day because i am harldy ever commander, well i am now because i need command time for badges, but i was sitting on and AA gun commanding whilst doing a bit of Essex defence (we was on Wake getting a raping) I only shot down bout 4 jets but artied the hell out of em and started getting Air Defence ribbon???? i was like huh? i havent used air defence to kill anythin but i got air defence ribbon! Bit cheap if u ask me! All the nUUbs who cant go sniper and get 35 kills in a round are starting to go commander to get thier badges therefor replacing thier Rifles and Pistols with massive cannons??? thats clearly not a Expert Sniper!!! Silly just another thing that EA cocked up!
a good commander doesnt whore artillery anyway
Starfleet1403
...to bodly spawn where no one has spawned before!
+66|7189|Born in West-Berlin

YoBabysDaddy wrote:

With your whole 711 command points I guess you would know huh?
Well I don't command much, because everytime I try it's like

DrunkFace wrote:

I think no one tries to win but me half the time, so when ever i go commander the 'smurfs' do fuck all about capturing flags and we lose. So next round some jackass who couldn't command for a shit gets 2x points because i put in the effort to win the round. with a half competent team i wont lose as commander but most of the time the teams are filled with jerks who stand around waiting for vehicles while the 3-5 of the other team captures every single flag.
I want to command more and i want to get my WCR which I should already have, but to command means our team loses one of its best flag capturing ground pounders. (sounds arrogant i know but unfortunately its the truth)
Yeah. My my friend it just like that. Benefiting only from your hard work.

uk-anubis-uk wrote:

There is plenty of things wrong with Commanding! Hmmm lets see ig i drop a box next to this Artilliary gun it should fix it??????? er NO!!! I cant believe you can just go commander and get kills with artilliary and it counts towards your badges! I didnt even realise this till the other day because i am harldy ever commander, well i am now because i need command time for badges, but i was sitting on and AA gun commanding whilst doing a bit of Essex defence (we was on Wake getting a raping) I only shot down bout 4 jets but artied the hell out of em and started getting Air Defence ribbon???? i was like huh? i havent used air defence to kill anythin but i got air defence ribbon! Bit cheap if u ask me! All the nUUbs who cant go sniper and get 35 kills in a round are starting to go commander to get thier badges therefor replacing thier Rifles and Pistols with massive cannons??? thats clearly not a Expert Sniper!!! Silly just another thing that EA cocked up!
Yeah, my friend got Veteran Anti-Tank that way yesterday.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|7197|Washington, DC

Badges through commander are the saddest manner to get a badge IMO. Even vehicles require more skill than sitting back and clicking on the red dots you want dead.
t0mhank5
Member
+319|7278|Surge
i get my promotions medic whoring in karkaband.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|7255|arica harbour
i go for promotions. i dont care all that much about stats or awards anymore since you can pad those like there is no tomorrow.

stats dont mean squat and if you noobs out there think otherwise, well i guess you have been spending way too much time in front of the battlefield 2 screen.
DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|7299|Germany, near Koblenz
Sorry guys, but something mentioned above is just nonsens!

When someone talks about commanders and has less than f.e. 10,000 CPs , that would be like me talking about flying with jets.

First fact you have to think about: Commanding is only a deal when your team wins! Otherwise you would have earned much more points as a normal soldier (unless you're to bad at all).

Next thing you have to accept: When both teams are nearly balanced, the side with the better commander will win!

Give it a try and do your first 50 hrs in this position. And not just be commander but BE commander! Learn to deal with squads saying yes but doing something other, learn to decide where you crate, arty, UAV is needed most at the moment, learn to deal with idiots who think they are invulnerable to friendly arty, know all maps to be able to decide which flags are really important to keep or get, accept staring on just one screen for hours, live with the fact that you have a fulltime job and don't even have the time to replace your drink, agonise consequent mutinity allthough you do your best for the team, stand this brand new shiny tank nearby and leave it for a mate, etc.

And when you get an award or a promotion by doing this consequently nothing will gnaw at your conscience but you'll think your hard job was worth every single point.

Last edited by DerGraueWolf (2006-07-27 09:54:05)

VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7272|Antarctica
I personally don't like to play commander much, but if someone does then I see nothing against it.
Kenthar
Resident Dragon Fanatic
+21|7113
I feel that I properly earned all 15,000 of my commander points, and yes, they probably did contribute toward a promotion.

But for the fledgling commanders... Come on - can't you at least put some UAV and artillery down? I don't mind a commander that attacks (so long as there are <32 players), but using the assets takes all of half a second if you use the T menu, or five seconds if you pull up your map.
sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|7099|Denmizzark!!
I can get more points in the field than by commanding..
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|7244|Middle of nowhere
I just hate commanders that fight... and i hate it more when my team doesn't care enough to mutiny them...

god that pisses me off... BLARG!!!
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7187|London, England

Starfleet1403 wrote:

Okay,

there is a friend of mine. He got BF2 in June this year and played it ever since. What disturbs me is the following:

Everytime he fanatically tries to become Commander. Most of the Time he commands, he just sucks. I mean he ignores Request, like I am request new orders and he needs 3 Minutes to react. I need a Vehicle, nothing happens neither an Accept nor an Reject.

So the Team works their asses off to win the round and that lame ass Guy is rewarded with the 2x Win Bonus.
Yesterday he made Sergeant. But from his his 2500 Pts. there are 1300 Commander Points. Somehow that is getting me pissed.

Don't get me wrong. Having a Commander is great, when he contributes to the team. IMHO I think promotions are earned in the field and not by laying back and exploiting the skilled guys.

What do you think?
00.00.00 commander time here. That's what i think.
ig
This topic seems to have no actual posts
+1,199|7089

YoBabysDaddy wrote:

With your whole 711 command points I guess you would know huh?
ur not too good either, i have 50 hrs less commander than you and 1000 more points
Darth_Fleder
Mod from the Church of the Painful Truth
+533|7373|Orlando, FL - Age 43

DerGraueWolf wrote:

Sorry guys, but something mentioned above is just nonsens!

When someone talks about commanders and has less than f.e. 10,000 CPs , that would be like me talking about flying with jets.

First fact you have to think about: Commanding is only a deal when your team wins! Otherwise you would have earned much more points as a normal soldier (unless you're to bad at all).

Next thing you have to accept: When both teams are nearly balanced, the side with the better commander will win!

Give it a try and do your first 50 hrs in this position. And not just be commander but BE commander! Learn to deal with squads saying yes but doing something other, learn to decide where you crate, arty, UAV is needed most at the moment, learn to deal with idiots who think they are invulnerable to friendly arty, know all maps to be able to decide which flags are really important to keep or get, accept staring on just one screen for hours, live with the fact that you have a fulltime job and don't even have the time to replace your drink, agonise consequent mutinity allthough you do your best for the team, stand this brand new shiny tank nearby and leave it for a mate, etc.

And when you get an award or a promotion by doing this consequently nothing will gnaw at your conscience but you'll think your hard job was worth every single point.
My 250hrs of commander time agrees with this....QFE

The commander option is just another facet of the game.
Ryker
Member
+13|7070
On the field. I never been promoted by commanding but my Teamwork score is farily high.

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