SonofASniper
Pump It Baby, Pump it!
+34|7013|Oregon
Back in the DC days, we had a "severe hacker problem" just like everyone is complaining about now.  Lots of players ran around crying "The sky is falling the sky is falling!!  What are we gonna do, OMG this is the end of DC/Battlefield 1942." Back then the hacks were free downloads too.

You know what we did?  We got over it. The honest players kept playing honest and got better.  The honest clans cleaned their house of dishonest players and quit having friendship with dishonest clans. After a while, it just wasn't a big deal.  We kept killing, and putting hackers in the dirt.

It came to the point that you could spot a hacker because he was the one accusing every body else of hacking when he got killed.  The hacker relied on the hacks so much that his skill devolopment actually receeded and the honest players became so good that the hackers became victims.

So here is my honest opinion.  Don't worry about it.  EA will most likely never be able to fix the problem. And if they do, hurray for us.  Its a game.  Don't lose sleep. Fuck the stats. Just have fun.  And when you kill a hacker, teabag his ass before you move on to the next victim.

This, in my opinion, would be the best thing for EA to do if they ever do anything about the hackers.

When a hacker is discovered via whatever punkbuster type program, there should be an instant change in the following codes:

1. Hacker appears to all players dressed in a bright pink ballarena outfit and his location be visible to all players on the mini map.
2. Hacker has enough health for anyone to kill him with one shot.
3. If Hacker gets in a vehicle, the vehicle should instantly explode on the first speed bump it hits.
4. Hacker's weapons should be negative values so that it adds health to any player that he hits, with the exception of other hackers.
5. Hacker should instantly die when trying to grab med packs, ammo packs, or comes in contact with a crate.
6. Point value should be triple for everytime a player kills a hacker, regardless of which team he is on.
7. When the hacker is killed, instead of crying for a medic, the following should be substituted, "I'm such a pussy".  A nice sobbing voice would be perfect.
8.When a hacker is identified and the neccesary coding has been changed, the same hacker should also be permanently global banned after 48 hours of being identified.  No ifs, ands, or buts.

But until EA does that, I am not going to lose any sleep over hackers.  I am just going to keep honing my skills and teabagging the poor bastards.  Eventually, they will become the easy victims because they have no skills.


SOS
Richard2000
Banned
+39|7022|England
lets kill all the hackers
-=CB=-krazykarl
not always PWD, but usually.
+95|7013|Carlsbad, CA, USA

SonofASniper wrote:

Back in the DC days, we had a "severe hacker problem" just like everyone is complaining about now.  Lots of players ran around crying "The sky is falling the sky is falling!!  What are we gonna do, OMG this is the end of DC/Battlefield 1942." Back then the hacks were free downloads too.

You know what we did?  We got over it. The honest players kept playing honest and got better.  The honest clans cleaned their house of dishonest players and quit having friendship with dishonest clans. After a while, it just wasn't a big deal.  We kept killing, and putting hackers in the dirt.

It came to the point that you could spot a hacker because he was the one accusing every body else of hacking when he got killed.  The hacker relied on the hacks so much that his skill devolopment actually receeded and the honest players became so good that the hackers became victims.

So here is my honest opinion.  Don't worry about it.  EA will most likely never be able to fix the problem. And if they do, hurray for us.  Its a game.  Don't lose sleep. Fuck the stats. Just have fun.  And when you kill a hacker, teabag his ass before you move on to the next victim.

This, in my opinion, would be the best thing for EA to do if they ever do anything about the hackers.

When a hacker is discovered via whatever punkbuster type program, there should be an instant change in the following codes:

1. Hacker appears to all players dressed in a bright pink ballarena outfit and his location be visible to all players on the mini map.
2. Hacker has enough health for anyone to kill him with one shot.
3. If Hacker gets in a vehicle, the vehicle should instantly explode on the first speed bump it hits.
4. Hacker's weapons should be negative values so that it adds health to any player that he hits, with the exception of other hackers.
5. Hacker should instantly die when trying to grab med packs, ammo packs, or comes in contact with a crate.
6. Point value should be triple for everytime a player kills a hacker, regardless of which team he is on.
7. When the hacker is killed, instead of crying for a medic, the following should be substituted, "I'm such a pussy".  A nice sobbing voice would be perfect.
8.When a hacker is identified and the neccesary coding has been changed, the same hacker should also be permanently global banned after 48 hours of being identified.  No ifs, ands, or buts.

But until EA does that, I am not going to lose any sleep over hackers.  I am just going to keep honing my skills and teabagging the poor bastards.  Eventually, they will become the easy victims because they have no skills.


SOS
+1 for you, i agree with all of it.
Redhell14
Member
+8|6989|Germany

-=CB=-krazykarl wrote:

SonofASniper wrote:

Back in the DC days, we had a "severe hacker problem" just like everyone is complaining about now.  Lots of players ran around crying "The sky is falling the sky is falling!!  What are we gonna do, OMG this is the end of DC/Battlefield 1942." Back then the hacks were free downloads too.

You know what we did?  We got over it. The honest players kept playing honest and got better.  The honest clans cleaned their house of dishonest players and quit having friendship with dishonest clans. After a while, it just wasn't a big deal.  We kept killing, and putting hackers in the dirt.

It came to the point that you could spot a hacker because he was the one accusing every body else of hacking when he got killed.  The hacker relied on the hacks so much that his skill devolopment actually receeded and the honest players became so good that the hackers became victims.

So here is my honest opinion.  Don't worry about it.  EA will most likely never be able to fix the problem. And if they do, hurray for us.  Its a game.  Don't lose sleep. Fuck the stats. Just have fun.  And when you kill a hacker, teabag his ass before you move on to the next victim.

This, in my opinion, would be the best thing for EA to do if they ever do anything about the hackers.

When a hacker is discovered via whatever punkbuster type program, there should be an instant change in the following codes:

1. Hacker appears to all players dressed in a bright pink ballarena outfit and his location be visible to all players on the mini map.
2. Hacker has enough health for anyone to kill him with one shot.
3. If Hacker gets in a vehicle, the vehicle should instantly explode on the first speed bump it hits.
4. Hacker's weapons should be negative values so that it adds health to any player that he hits, with the exception of other hackers.
5. Hacker should instantly die when trying to grab med packs, ammo packs, or comes in contact with a crate.
6. Point value should be triple for everytime a player kills a hacker, regardless of which team he is on.
7. When the hacker is killed, instead of crying for a medic, the following should be substituted, "I'm such a pussy".  A nice sobbing voice would be perfect.
8.When a hacker is identified and the neccesary coding has been changed, the same hacker should also be permanently global banned after 48 hours of being identified.  No ifs, ands, or buts.

But until EA does that, I am not going to lose any sleep over hackers.  I am just going to keep honing my skills and teabagging the poor bastards.  Eventually, they will become the easy victims because they have no skills.


SOS
+1 for you, i agree with all of it.
SonofASniper
Pump It Baby, Pump it!
+34|7013|Oregon
Actually now that I think about it, we all should send that proposal into EA.  *lol*


SOS
Darky
Hi..
+71|7039|Here.
EA wont add code to stop cheaters. As far as they are concerned, they implemented PB into the game therefore, the number of hacks is minimal at best (lol).

I know of at least 1 major gaming host in Australia that only runs PB to log players. They dont stream the MBL, nor do they run auto-ban if a player is found to be running malicious code. Rumour has it, that at least 1 other major gaming host in Australia runs their server the same way. All because of 'privacy'.

To me, that means they are only running PB at a 3rd of what it's capable of. Yes there are cheats that can get around PB, but I bet we'd see less, if admins ran their servers properly.
Cold Fussion
72% alcohol
+63|7144|Sydney, Australia

Darky wrote:

EA wont add code to stop cheaters. As far as they are concerned, they implemented PB into the game therefore, the number of hacks is minimal at best (lol).

I know of at least 1 major gaming host in Australia that only runs PB to log players. They dont stream the MBL, nor do they run auto-ban if a player is found to be running malicious code. Rumour has it, that at least 1 other major gaming host in Australia runs their server the same way. All because of 'privacy'.

To me, that means they are only running PB at a 3rd of what it's capable of. Yes there are cheats that can get around PB, but I bet we'd see less, if admins ran their servers properly.
That would be gamearena, right?
SonofASniper
Pump It Baby, Pump it!
+34|7013|Oregon

Darky wrote:

EA wont add code to stop cheaters. As far as they are concerned, they implemented PB into the game therefore, the number of hacks is minimal at best (lol).

I know of at least 1 major gaming host in Australia that only runs PB to log players. They dont stream the MBL, nor do they run auto-ban if a player is found to be running malicious code. Rumour has it, that at least 1 other major gaming host in Australia runs their server the same way. All because of 'privacy'.

To me, that means they are only running PB at a 3rd of what it's capable of. Yes there are cheats that can get around PB, but I bet we'd see less, if admins ran their servers properly.
Pretty much why the actual point of my post is, screw it.  I am not going to lose any sleep over kiddies cheating.  Like I said, the honest players will get better and better and eventually the hacks won't mean crap, or they will be so over the top "Godmode" type hacks that anyone running them will get picked off by an admin fairly quickly.

But you have to admit, it would be funny if EA did something like that.  I know they never will because it will ultimately come down to some bean counter in their corporate office saying "That only costs us money. How will that make us money.  We can't charge for it? Then don't put the effort into it." or something along those lines.

SOS
Altophish
Member
+8|6977
Wow! Someone making sense on this site!?!
+1 for rational thinking SonofaSniper!!

Edit...I guess I'm not worthy enough to give you an actual karma point.  So here is a pretend one for you.

+1

Your welcome

Last edited by Altophish (2006-08-08 01:43:28)

Rimbo
Member
+1|7049|Inside ur armpit.
All the french hack?,every french clan i have ever player against,this include dod dod.s cc.s etc,they all hack.ban the french???????????.
Barrakuda777
Member
+86|7213|Somewhere near a shrub or rock
I have never seen a hacker in this game.... not 1... ever... in a year of playing...

Kooda
Darky
Hi..
+71|7039|Here.

Cold Fussion wrote:

Darky wrote:

EA wont add code to stop cheaters. As far as they are concerned, they implemented PB into the game therefore, the number of hacks is minimal at best (lol).

I know of at least 1 major gaming host in Australia that only runs PB to log players. They dont stream the MBL, nor do they run auto-ban if a player is found to be running malicious code. Rumour has it, that at least 1 other major gaming host in Australia runs their server the same way. All because of 'privacy'.

To me, that means they are only running PB at a 3rd of what it's capable of. Yes there are cheats that can get around PB, but I bet we'd see less, if admins ran their servers properly.
That would be gamearena, right?
Lol, ya.
stonehand
I need a medic here! Please?!?
+12|7158|Southern Indiana

Barrakuda777 wrote:

I have never seen a hacker in this game.... not 1... ever... in a year of playing...

Kooda
Umm were have u been.... under a rock.
ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|7128|The Netherlands
i wanna see a mec in a pink dress with bear prints on it
alexilaiho68
Where's my coffee gone!?
+45|6976|Australia

stonehand wrote:

Barrakuda777 wrote:

I have never seen a hacker in this game.... not 1... ever... in a year of playing...

Kooda
Umm were have u been.... under a rock.
I havnt  seen any either ^^
Barrakuda777
Member
+86|7213|Somewhere near a shrub or rock

stonehand wrote:

Barrakuda777 wrote:

I have never seen a hacker in this game.... not 1... ever... in a year of playing...

Kooda
Umm were have u been.... under a rock.
Honestly, i have never seen one. There is no player i have come across in this game that has done anything i cannot attribute to a UAV, good aim, skill, knowledge of the map or sheer dumb luck.

Thats in a year!

I have seen enough people screaming hacker at people, and there batting away at 10-12, if that's the power of hacks, hell, keep them!

Kooda
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|7034|Brisbane, Aus

SonofASniper wrote:

And when you kill a hacker, teabag his ass before you move on to the next victim.
+1 DC owned and still does
spacebandit72
Dead Meat
+121|7207|Michigan
I don't see much in the way of hackers either.
Only two times I questioned someone because they were able to get multiple headshots at sniping range with the medic unlock which I'm sure can be done but his accuracy was unreal.

And another time when I set claymores to defend a flag and they would run right in front of them and not die. The claymores had plenty of time to set and it happened all round and they wouldn't even take damage when sniping them. It was the whole team I think because I didn't get any kills the whole round. I'm not the best sniper in the world but I should have at least got one kill.
Who knows though I could have just sucked real bad that day.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7158|Disaster Free Zone

Darky wrote:

Cold Fussion wrote:

Darky wrote:

EA wont add code to stop cheaters. As far as they are concerned, they implemented PB into the game therefore, the number of hacks is minimal at best (lol).

I know of at least 1 major gaming host in Australia that only runs PB to log players. They dont stream the MBL, nor do they run auto-ban if a player is found to be running malicious code. Rumour has it, that at least 1 other major gaming host in Australia runs their server the same way. All because of 'privacy'.

To me, that means they are only running PB at a 3rd of what it's capable of. Yes there are cheats that can get around PB, but I bet we'd see less, if admins ran their servers properly.
That would be gamearena, right?
Lol, ya.
LOL and they kick for swearing... They do give a warning but, it just puts things into prespective. Hackers are aparently better for the game then someone saying "Shit".

I had no idea about that but i never liked playing GA anyway, too many assholes and randoms (or where they??).
Rick_O_Shea678
Angry Engy
+95|7230
You had me at pink ballerina outfit.
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|7038|Cheshire, UK
Quality - Now if they could only introduce electrocution via ethernet all will be good in the world
BUDFORCE
Moderator Emeritus
+76|7249|London UK

Barrakuda777 wrote:

stonehand wrote:

Barrakuda777 wrote:

I have never seen a hacker in this game.... not 1... ever... in a year of playing...

Kooda
Umm were have u been.... under a rock.
Honestly, i have never seen one. There is no player i have come across in this game that has done anything i cannot attribute to a UAV, good aim, skill, knowledge of the map or sheer dumb luck.

Thats in a year!

I have seen enough people screaming hacker at people, and there batting away at 10-12, if that\'s the power of hacks, hell, keep them!

Kooda
Yeah I have nearly 1000 hours now and Ive never seen a hacker, and I think Im good enough to be able to tell.

Infact just yesterday was the first time Ive ever seen would you could consider a hack and that was someone exploiting the commander vehicle drop bug.
N)!(NDarkDragon
Banned
+158|6999
Yer so right bud. I agree.
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|7023|Doncaster, UK

SkoobyDu wrote:

Quality - Now if they could only introduce electrocution via ethernet all will be good in the world
They'd all go wireless then

And I can't say I've ever 100% experienced someone hacking. Sure I've fallen foul to hotle glitch, and I've seen some shots that are decided dubious, like a pistol headshot from 100m away, but it could all be luck, skill, etc.
Kendoson
Member
+10|7171|Scotland
got to say find some hacks funny cause they pay £200 upwards on good gfx card then make all peeps pink and all backgrounds white lmao at this though the actul hacks aint funny that little fact is

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