oh and spawnrape w the armor @karkand needs more skill thän bombing....the armor and APCs havent to rearm like the jets..so think about it...
pwned. Learn to fly mate, aircraft take a LOT of skill to use properly.spray_and_pray wrote:
LOL look at his plane stats 0 kills 7 deaths
<--- Self proclaimed AA whore. I love downing jets and helis with it. I took out at least 4 Cobras in a single round on Daqing earlier. And a few jets on top of that and Infantry too. Ratio of 4.9 doesnt come from nowhere
I must admit, I suck in jets and rarely use them. I have no problems with them - despite often getting my ass kicked by them. I very rarely come across a server where it is continuous spawn raping with jets (because the team sucks that much to get into that situation) - and if it is, then I leave. Simple.
You only get mass spawn raping by jets, in a large frequency, if your team really sucks badly. If that is the case, then thats your teams fault. Jets will not win a match, only the ones on the ground can do that by capping them flags. So for all of their power....they cant win it by themselves.
But some maps do need additional AA, such as Wake and even Dalian. I like the idea of a "no fly zone" around airfields, esp the carrier. But that would kinda make the USS Essex guns redundant. Ive seen them both manned before, and all J10's who came near got the shit kicked out of em.
I must admit, I suck in jets and rarely use them. I have no problems with them - despite often getting my ass kicked by them. I very rarely come across a server where it is continuous spawn raping with jets (because the team sucks that much to get into that situation) - and if it is, then I leave. Simple.
You only get mass spawn raping by jets, in a large frequency, if your team really sucks badly. If that is the case, then thats your teams fault. Jets will not win a match, only the ones on the ground can do that by capping them flags. So for all of their power....they cant win it by themselves.
But some maps do need additional AA, such as Wake and even Dalian. I like the idea of a "no fly zone" around airfields, esp the carrier. But that would kinda make the USS Essex guns redundant. Ive seen them both manned before, and all J10's who came near got the shit kicked out of em.
Last edited by Snake (2006-08-04 14:56:24)
This is a typical rant of someone who can't take jets. Suck it up!
first you say
"get over it it's a war- NO LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WAS A GAME" yea, and?
Then you say
"In real war the jetshave to land to rearm."
So...
are you teh morning glory or ze what?
"get over it it's a war- NO LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WAS A GAME" yea, and?
Then you say
"In real war the jetshave to land to rearm."
So...
are you teh morning glory or ze what?
?? AA is useless, add me to your monitor, and join a round when im playing BF2 or SF. Then you'll see what AA can do to planes (100+ scores on Dragon Valley as an example.)YunDog wrote:
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Last edited by Bernadictus (2006-08-10 02:06:14)
Interesting idea - the Phalanx cannons in real life are radar controlled - that'd put an end to carrier rape.Sgt_Stutta wrote:
if u ask me there should be AAs at every main base with a diff shade of color as sort of a "no fly zone" where any unfriendly planes that fly into it will have AA's automatically shooting them. like two unmanned AA turrets at each MAIN, UNCAP base inside a sort of DMZ or no fly zone to eliminate spawn rapes and friendly planes being shot down while trying to repair or rearm. just my thoughts though. and like 100 of them on wake island on the carrier lol. no jet would ever make it to the carrier. wouldnt that be nice.
I agree 100% ....you wanna fly go get a Flight sim....... + 1YunDog wrote:
I know there are alot of air lovers out there
but face it - for anyone not in a jet - 90% of the other players - Air power but specifically Jets are wrecking BF2
I have lost count of how many servers Ive immediately left because you cant move or spawn even without getting bombed - or the AA is completely useless
games that wouldve been close contests - good games where your fighting it out with some guy man to man - and one or both of you get bombed
and this happens again and again and again - Sorry but Im not going to be 10 more kills adding to the 100s some bomber gets - without the skills to deserve it
another reason why Karkand is so popular - NO AIR
in my opinion players are fed up with spending the whole game looking at the spawn screen because some guy is bombing spawn points over and over and over
its not fun
its not challenging
it takes very little skill
and for those of you about to say - 'its war get over it' - NO - I CHECKED - ITS DEFINATELY A GAME
but there is a very simple and fair solution to this
Air units should be made to LAND to REARM.
Thats right you would actually have to be able to pilot a jet to get any decent usage out of it
this would have several flow on effects:
1. this would give the ground forces a break from 'bomb spamming' because its not the bombing thats the problem its the frequency
2. only people actually able to pilot the jets would get any kills with them
3. jets and helis would be vunerable to ground forces whilest on the tarmat
4. it would remove alot of the 'teen angst' that occurs anywhere air units spawn - because the pretend pilots arnt going to bother anymore if they cant statpad with them
5. It would be far more realistic having to land on the carrier that just do a fly by as rearming jets is very time consuming in real war
6. you would get to witness some spectacular smashes on botched landings - which is always good value
without this simple chnage - this game is dead
this is one rounds wouth of spawn kills some jet whore wont be getting anymore - even if that means only ever playing karkand
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Id rather see them have to land for the boost from shift. To get the boost back you need to land. Thats the main way they get away the boost.
simple just play karkandYunDog wrote:
I know there are alot of air lovers out there
but face it - for anyone not in a jet - 90% of the other players - Air power but specifically Jets are wrecking BF2
I have lost count of how many servers Ive immediately left because you cant move or spawn even without getting bombed - or the AA is completely useless
games that wouldve been close contests - good games where your fighting it out with some guy man to man - and one or both of you get bombed
and this happens again and again and again - Sorry but Im not going to be 10 more kills adding to the 100s some bomber gets - without the skills to deserve it
another reason why Karkand is so popular - NO AIR
in my opinion players are fed up with spending the whole game looking at the spawn screen because some guy is bombing spawn points over and over and over
its not fun
its not challenging
it takes very little skill
and for those of you about to say - 'its war get over it' - NO - I CHECKED - ITS DEFINATELY A GAME
but there is a very simple and fair solution to this
Air units should be made to LAND to REARM.
Thats right you would actually have to be able to pilot a jet to get any decent usage out of it
this would have several flow on effects:
1. this would give the ground forces a break from 'bomb spamming' because its not the bombing thats the problem its the frequency
2. only people actually able to pilot the jets would get any kills with them
3. jets and helis would be vunerable to ground forces whilest on the tarmat
4. it would remove alot of the 'teen angst' that occurs anywhere air units spawn - because the pretend pilots arnt going to bother anymore if they cant statpad with them
5. It would be far more realistic having to land on the carrier that just do a fly by as rearming jets is very time consuming in real war
6. you would get to witness some spectacular smashes on botched landings - which is always good value
without this simple chnage - this game is dead
this is one rounds wouth of spawn kills some jet whore wont be getting anymore - even if that means only ever playing karkand
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Mr.Casual wrote:
play SF, no jets, nuff said
why buy this game when u know there is going to be jets on it
and if jets had to land to rearm than think of all spawn campers that will be waiting for u
just to blow u up
and if jets had to land to rearm than think of all spawn campers that will be waiting for u
just to blow u up
Last edited by Richard2000 (2006-08-10 09:30:17)
It's a good idea, but I think it would be better if you could actually kill the planes with the AA they have in the game. It seems almost impossible to kill one by anything other than the aircraft carrier one because any time you start to lock on, the jets already gun and there's no machine gun on it. The mobile ones don't help too much either because those guns suck. I still don't see why Anti-Tank don't get an Anti-Air rocket anyways, should be just like DC.
don't like the planes/armor/spawn camping go play america's army or cs.......... stop bitching
Depends wich one. The J10 is the paris hilton of BF2.VeNg3nCe^ wrote:
pwned. Learn to fly mate, aircraft take a LOT of skill to use properly.spray_and_pray wrote:
LOL look at his plane stats 0 kills 7 deaths