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I cant understand why there are people choosing AMD

Ok, the old pentium was behind the athlons but now were talking about the Core 2 and everyting is on its side

performance
price (if you look for medium/high-end cpu)
heat, so overclock too
power consumption


why cant amd fan read benchmarks for Ch*** sake !

Last edited by -=raska=- (2006-08-12 16:50:15)

EVIL_STYX wrote:

AMD 64 no question about it...

All these graphs mean nothing I have both Intel and AMD and the AMD smokes the Intel every time...

AMD's run twice as hot as there rated ( period ), go with the AMD my friend! You won't be sorry, I promise you!

I will not put anymore money of mine into Intel again, infact every ATHLON processor I have ever owned smokes the Intels everytime...

EVIL_STYX OUT!!!

you got a Core 2 ?

which model you got?

ok so you got 2 identical machines one with Core 2 and the other one with an Athlon ?

how can a cpu be twice as fast as its rated ? when you come to measure fps, fraps doesnt divide by 2 the number if you got an Athlon...

Chronometers dont multiply their times by 2 if you got an Athlon on encoding, compression, etc. benchmarks...

Last edited by -=raska=- (2006-08-12 17:11:35)

-=raska=- wrote:

I cant understand why there are people choosing AMD

Ok, the old pentium was behind the athlons but now were talking about the Core 2 and everyting is on its side

performance
price (if you look for medium/high-end cpu)
heat, so overclock too
power consumption


why cant amd fan read benchmarks for Ch*** sake !

The average gamer can't be bothered to spend the required time searching and reading to stay current on PC tech.  It was no different back when AMD stole the performance crown from Intel.  It took years for the average uneducated gamer to admit that yes indeed, times had changed.  It is no different now.  Intel has stolen the performance crown back from AMD within the last several weeks.  Yet, the average uneducated gamer knows nothing about this because he would rather talk about things that USED to be true as if they were still true, instead of taking the initiative to actually form his own opinions based upon current events.  Once their "buddy" who actually bothers to stay current on PC tech mentions that he is thinking about jumping to Intel for it's superior core 2 performance, they finally begin to change their tune.  People are funny this way.....facts often mean nothing until they come from a trusted friend.

This is analogous to sports.  Ask any sports fan who is the best team and you will rarely hear a deviation from that persons favored team.  People often invest their heart and souls into their beliefs, and when faced with conflicting information will often bury their heads in the sand and insist that this is just not true.  You can pick these people off like fly's however, as for the most part, they are completely unprepared to back up their opinions up with facts and often resort to statements like "AMD rulez FTW!!!"  "Intel suxxors"  push them on the issue and they will just leave the conversation.

If anyone here doubts the fact that Intel has taken the performance crown I challenge you to spend 2 hours reading current tech news on the subject.  Kinda funny that no one in that field of expertise is arguing the point eh?  The only people I see arguing is those who can't be bothered to read current events or those who are so invested in their choice of AMD that they simply refuse to see the light even when it is shining them in the face.

I've been running AMD exclusively for the last 10 years, at first because AMD was cheaper and later on because AMD was superior.  Nevertheless, I'd trade my FX60 for a $300 E6600 in a heartbeat.  Brand loyalty will screw you in the end, these companies play leapfrog with each other all the time.  the only way to serve yourself is to be ready to switch brands according to the facts, not to what you wish were true.

ShotYourSix wrote:

The average gamer can't be bothered to spend the required time searching and reading to stay current on PC tech.  It was no different back when AMD stole the performance crown from Intel.  It took years for the average uneducated gamer to admit that yes indeed, times had changed.  It is no different now.  Intel has stolen the performance crown back from AMD within the last several weeks.  Yet, the average uneducated gamer knows nothing about this because he would rather talk about things that USED to be true as if they were still true, instead of taking the initiative to actually form his own opinions based upon current events.  Once their "buddy" who actually bothers to stay current on PC tech mentions that he is thinking about jumping to Intel for it's superior core 2 performance, they finally begin to change their tune.  People are funny this way.....facts often mean nothing until they come from a trusted friend.

This is analogous to sports.  Ask any sports fan who is the best team and you will rarely hear a deviation from that persons favored team.  People often invest their heart and souls into their beliefs, and when faced with conflicting information will often bury their heads in the sand and insist that this is just not true.  You can pick these people off like fly's however, as for the most part, they are completely unprepared to back up their opinions up with facts and often resort to statements like "AMD rulez FTW!!!"  "Intel suxxors"  push them on the issue and they will just leave the conversation.

If anyone here doubts the fact that Intel has taken the performance crown I challenge you to spend 2 hours reading current tech news on the subject.  Kinda funny that no one in that field of expertise is arguing the point eh?  The only people I see arguing is those who can't be bothered to read current events or those who are so invested in their choice of AMD that they simply refuse to see the light even when it is shining them in the face.

I've been running AMD exclusively for the last 10 years, at first because AMD was cheaper and later on because AMD was superior.  Nevertheless, I'd trade my FX60 for a $300 E6600 in a heartbeat.  Brand loyalty will screw you in the end, these companies play leapfrog with each other all the time.  the only way to serve yourself is to be ready to switch brands according to the facts, not to what you wish were true.

This guy is right

The time when Athlon kicked Pentium's ass is gone.. hmm.. no its not, its still true... but for the Pentium

now the long Pentium's history ended, and the Core 2 has come.

Last edited by -=raska=- (2006-08-12 17:27:19)

I've been a big AMD supporter since the first K7. Netburst was the shitest idea ever - Intel have admitted it was a marketing strategy increasing the length of the pipeline way beyond the optimal number of stages just to boost the clock frequency, since research indicated users tend to decide between processors based on clock speed. I have hated Intel ever since - but their new chips are awesome.

Intel - all the way. The core 2 duo is much better than anything AMD have and AM2 is a joke. Costs far more than 939 and performance increase is approx 2% on most apps, AM2 CPUs perform slower than their 939 counterparts on many tasks + the RAM costs lots.

AM2 is GAY!

Core 2 Duo FTW.

razz wrote:

evil_styx I think your full of shit myself.

Think what you will there little fella, I was just speaking from my personal experience!
Thanks for your opinion, we all have one and well you know how the rest goes don't you. I have three comps hooked up to networking, and quite frankly could care less what you think.

Just merely stating my opinion that is all. I don't recall in my posts saying anything out of line to you.

Both are damn, good processors! To the poster I am sure you will be happy with which ever you chose!

EVIL_STYX OUT!!!

Last edited by EVIL_STYX (2006-08-12 17:56:29)

USMCkilla wrote:

AMD all the way. I will never own another intel product. Now that AMD and ATI are one they will continue to own the gaming market.

doc. josh wrote:

Amd

[TUF]Whiskey_Oktober wrote:

what kmarion said...the Intel kicks the AMD's ass....to space.

SFCCDailey wrote:

AMD all the way! I just built a new rig and it was the first AMD chip I've used in a gaming rig before. Man it smokes the intels by far! Not to mention what you get for the money. Get yourself a nice AMD processor and load up on RAM, you'll like the results.

Did any of you actually take the time to read the benches I posted? You may like AMD and "Think it is way more 1337 then intel" But you do realise, between the two chips he is considering (E6399 and X4200) The intel wins in all but one or two (out of Id say 20) benchmarks? Including beating the AMD in every gaming bench?

Why must you be so ignorant?

I'm biased towards Intel only cuz my father worked on the earlier Pentiums...P2's n 3's, but I just built my girl a new rig to play this game, she gets it this Wednesday...and I decided on the AMD 4200.  Just thought I'd go a different route for once. 

Im sorry EVIL_STYX but I think I (and anyone seriously buying a CPU) to trust professional benchmarks by well known websites over someones "personal opinon"

I buy CPUs on fact, not speculation.

Last edited by Snipedya14 (2006-08-12 18:04:40)

Ok I will end this topic with the best arguement yet!

AMD cut their prices, nearly 50% on some CPUs. For the casual gamer, like myself, and for the limited budget gamer, like myself, this means you should go AMD. If you can spend $300+ on the newer CPUs then Conroe is the way to go.

It all comes down to price/performance ratio, and right now AMD is winning that on most of thier low end CPUs b/c the Conroe's are expensive.

So...low on cash = AMD, got the money = Conroe FTW

Thank you come again

The FX series is a joke...the higher end AMD CPUs run at the same speed. I see no need for $800 CPUs!

I wish I could afford Conroe...I'm not dissing it at all...but price/performane ratio AMD is still on top with most of their CPUs. AMD is an army of good, reliable, fast CPUs. Now that Conroe is out everybody says "OMG Conroe is teh 1337!! it rox0rs AMDeeez sox0rs! AMD is teh sux!!!!!!11!!!11!!!1!1!1111" when in reality AMD appeals to all the consumer base while Intel's Conroe appeals to only gamers with money.