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DICE tried to do that, but they knew that people wouldn't accept mediocre graphics for a destructible environments. Then the people with medium graphics cards would get the destructible environment and the high-end users wouldn't.  That would give the mediums an unfair advantage and the high-ends would whine about 40x more than they already do.  And who the hell came up with voting on a PotD based on graphics?!

Souls wrote:

Sorry if this is the wrong forum this but was wondering what everyone else felt about  BF-2142. The future battle thing is not what I want in a game.  Give me more types of modern day weapons I can use and more controls over the ones that are already in these games. Heres a few examples of what I'd like to see. 


Jets

1. Padlocking - Padlocking is where your eyes/view will follow a visual range target.
2. A more realistic flight model.   The jets need to bleed far more energy and keep bleeding it when you maneuver hard.
3. G effects - red out and black out
4. Catapults and arresting gears on carriers
5. Bring back bombers and attack planes. A-10 / Su-25 or maybe B-52 / Tu-142.
6. A better radar that lets me or my copilot search and track air targets beyond visual range.
8. More types of weapons.  IR and radar missiles
9. Jammers and chaff for defense against radar missles
8. More speed and bigger maps

-----> My thoughts on jets:

***1.Would be cool
2.Play FS2004, this is BF2
3.Cool
4. No, I see stupid things happening.
5. Yes, I would love an A-10
6. Only air, no ground seeking radar
7.???
8.  Overpower=Nerf
9. Chaff works well now
10. No, and no. Don't need more speed, and don't need bigger maps.***

Tanks

1. Telescoping/Zoomable main gun sights.
2. Different types of rounds, HEAT and Sabot.
3. Thermal imaging.

***Thoughts on tanks:

1. Not needed
2. More Infantry killing? I think the tanks are fine now
3. Overpower= Nerf***

Sniper

Sights that Zoom
Sights that tell me the range to target
Sights that I have to adjust for range to target
Wind effects
A game that I can see beyond what BF2 lets me see.  I would like the chance to make a 1000m sniper kill on some maps.

Bring back the NAVY!!! I want ships and subs again.

I'm sure some of you infanty guys could add more.

***Final thoughts:

I would like them to make sniper rifles one hit kills, however I would like to make their use much more skill than anything else, and maybe add in the planetside type of "I can't move or I won't get a good shot".  I won't lie Its easy to stand behind something hop up for two seconds and get off a well placed sniper round, maybe too easy.

I would love to see ships/subs, however I think it would take away focus from the ground fighting, IMHO something that still needs work on, and I don't want to be killed by some ship 5 miles off sea, arty sucks as it is.***

Maybe BF-2142 will be a great game who knows.  But I enjoy modern day weapons.   What do you all think?

From most of the screenshots it seems if most of the air in BF2142 will be hover, maybe having the ability to switch to flight mode? would be cool.

Stuff I would like to see

*Anti-Air units
*More power to ground units(Weapons, cover, and overall infantry power)
*Mechs look cool
*More kits

I would hope that it would still feel like playing BF, I don't want to come into the game and say, "Oh! look CS 2142" or like COD, or any other game.

It would be cool if they will be adding a new ranking/reward system.

Last edited by Chickenpuppy (2006-04-19 23:19:19)

IronFerret wrote:

Quake Wars looks lots better.. better graph engine, better gameplay and kind of diferent ideas.. but who knows.. anyway i dont like the 2142 idea is cheap.

and if you look carefull at the pics of both.. it seems that quake wars its more "finish", i think they rush 2142 to get some extra cash, i know thats the only point of big corporations but at least  do it with style.. i mean let us enjoy bf2 for a while..

Its been quite a while. I don't have the biggest score, and havent played 250 hours yet, but im geting sick of a lot of the maps on bf2, and not paying for more. And a lot of people don't seam keen on paying for them either.

To enjoy it a bit longer, I think we need more Maps. Re release 1942 maps. Or come up with new ones. But they should be free.

Something that i think 2142 is going to be, i think its going to be what BF Veitnam was to 1942.
It was cool for a while. But you still wanted to play the clasic.

Bf2 is cool. I feel 2142, will be cool for a little while. Then i'll be back to BF2.

Also,
Futuristic? Come on, its been done over and over again, Its not new ideas. Just re hashed from someone else.
There arn't many ffs that are set in todays time, that work well. And a contiunally fun to make

Meh i won't continue, i might start going round in circles...

well, i agree that quake wars really looks better then bf 2142 so why doesn't EA let activision just let them do what they want 2 do nd does EA improve BF2:)

that's a pretty comprehensive list of improvements you'd like to see, perhaps this belongs in the 'improvements' section?

Maj.Do wrote:

man i remember tribes, that was a fun game .
Too me, quake wars has already won the most anticipated Scifi MP game of 06

yeah i agree with both of these sentiments... tribes:vengeance was great fun. really good open maps, great 'urban decay' destroyed city environments, cool armour options... good fun.

I wanna see bunny hopping tanks.

I want to see vast armies of n00bs TKing over who gets to dolphin dive in a mech.

I really, really, really want to see giant walking robots C4 chucking.

MaddOps wrote:

Think about the money spent, game, computer upgrades, dsl/cable internet, etc and then add in all the time, and what could you have done with that time?

Down load a whole lot more pr0n and gotten a much firmer grip on my hand to man relationship?

But that is just a guess, I might be wrong.

MaddOps wrote:

And that's something we all need to strive for.

And I also make a solem vow to quit sticking him places he's never been before.

Well, don't go getting ahead of yourself there.

Some times you need to spice things up.  A little adventure is a good thing.

Unless you really are some sick twisted freak and then about the only place you haven't been before is inside a dead selocanth and I want nothing to do with that.

Hey.  You *******es whining about the futuristic crap
(note, at the bottom is a summary where I finally get to the point.  Go there if you don't want to read most of this)

EA has specifically tried to limit that element.  99% of the tech there is already in existence, even if it's just on the drawing board.  The only techs I haven't seen are some of the armor types, the energy shields, and an energy-based hover tech, and some of those are logical continuances of current tech (such as Non-Explosive Reactive Armor, which is a continuance of today's Explosive Reactive Armor.  And it probably doesn't even matter).  The rest are just "assumptions" which you take for granted because they improve the gameplay (such as Active Defense System-although there's nothing like it even on the drawing board, it adds an element of, "when do I fire and when do I fake him out?")

Overall, the future tech in BF 2142 does not change the overall gameplay by much.  Quite a bit of it is just fancy names which don't even impact gameplay.  It's still mostly a squad-based infantry game, with vehicles added in for spice.  Merging the classes helps to make sure you don't need so many different classes to succeed, and if you want to specialize... 10 unlocks per class, and a global grenade unlock.  If you want to be a close-up destroyer, go recon w/ active camo and C-4.  Knife infantry and blow up vehicles after sneaking up on them.  If you are pissed at bombers ruining your every moment in BF2, well, not only are there no bombs, you can unlock portable AA not unlike today's Stinger.

As for vehicles, they've been balanced so that they're overall easier for infantry to take on (once you get the rifle grenade unlock for assault, there is no class without at least some anti-armor capability, even if it's just EMP).  Battlewalkers sound like invincible titans, but they DO have vents on the bottom.  Shoot them out and toss a grenade or two in.  Run like hell (actually, if you went support with both EMP and frag grenades, a single infantry could take these guys out).  The only problem is that smart Battlewalker pilots will never travel without infantry support, and nothing can stand up to a head-to-head fight with a Battlewalker (the infantry are basically there to cover the proverbial 6).  Tanks are probably overall less armored than BF2 tanks, and it sounds as though the unguided Engy unlock can single-shot them from behind.  APCs seem to be more focused on infantry transport; EMP to run away from tanks/battlewalkers and an autocannon to keep infantry behind cover.

Overall, what I think they did with BF 2142 was focus it down to the essentials (4 kits rather than 7, 1 attack and 1 transport aircraft rather than 4/1, 1 jeep rather than 3, 4 if you count SF), added a couple things, then gave infantry a lot of options with unlocks.  90% of BF 2142 will be instantly recognizable from BF 2.

And one little point with the 4 classes, once you get through unlocks, you may wind up with overall more classes than BF2 (for example, recon can go sniper or the aforementioned C4/active camo + knife, which have the effect of being two entirely seperate classes/playstyles).

Jet-ideas:Nice...go play Lock-on.

Tank-ideas:Nice...go play some tanksim.

Sniper-ideas:Nice...go play SniperElite.