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Poll

Should Infantry Only By Ranked?

No31%31% - 129
Yes68%68% - 284
Total: 413
2006-08-15 21:29:15
Noop-Ni
ROAR
+14|6769

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

If your ego can't handle the fact that you die once in a while from jets or helis BF2 is in fact the wrong game for you.
No, it's not actually. The reason is, now there's a mode where people won't be able to get such a huge advantage over me. Isn't that nice?

In any case, I haven't died from jets in months, 'cause I haven't played vanilla BF in months. Helicopters I don't mind, 'cause helicopters can actually be killed by infantry.

change to a game where you can kill the whole army with your handgun(CS:S,DoD,etc,etc,fuckin' etc.).
So what you're saying is, the feature that makes BF unique is that the fights are not in fact fair? That they're not dependant on player skill, they're depending on who got the better vehicle?

Y'know, that's actually pretty true. Sad, but true.

The infantry only option is ok as long as it is unranked,otherwise every other bastardized "game mode" of BF2 like K&P or "Admins get the jets" would be legitimate too.
Does that include a bastardised game mode such as "No jets"? 'Cause there's plenty of servers with no jets, and they're all ranked. Does this mean Special Forces should be unranked, along with maps which don't feature every vehicle?

Man, Night Flight should be removed from server cycles. No planes, no helicopters, barely any armour. If people play only it, their stats would show how good they are in fair fights against other infantry. Can't have that. That would be wrong.

If you want infantry only fights play it,do whatever you like  - but nobody needs and wants a RANKED infantry only mode except for all the pussies who can't adapt against things you can't kill(which is what makes BF2 better than your average CS-clon.).
Well, I'll respond to that by saying that only pussies who need an unfair advantage against people want infantry only to be unranked.

Last edited by Noop-Ni (2006-08-15 21:29:43)

2006-08-15 21:33:37
Gen. Payne
Member
+50|6977|USA
Infantry only just will make BF2 into a half-assed Counter Strike. If I wanted that gamestyle, I'd play counterstrike :-D
2006-08-15 21:42:17
DarkZealot89
Wait A Minute!
+46|6818|Louisville, Ky

Noop-Ni wrote:

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

If your ego can't handle the fact that you die once in a while from jets or helis BF2 is in fact the wrong game for you.
No, it's not actually. The reason is, now there's a mode where people won't be able to get such a huge advantage over me. Isn't that nice?

In any case, I haven't died from jets in months, 'cause I haven't played vanilla BF in months. Helicopters I don't mind, 'cause helicopters can actually be killed by infantry.

change to a game where you can kill the whole army with your handgun(CS:S,DoD,etc,etc,fuckin' etc.).
So what you're saying is, the feature that makes BF unique is that the fights are not in fact fair? That they're not dependant on player skill, they're depending on who got the better vehicle?

Y'know, that's actually pretty true. Sad, but true.

The infantry only option is ok as long as it is unranked,otherwise every other bastardized "game mode" of BF2 like K&P or "Admins get the jets" would be legitimate too.
Does that include a bastardised game mode such as "No jets"? 'Cause there's plenty of servers with no jets, and they're all ranked. Does this mean Special Forces should be unranked, along with maps which don't feature every vehicle?

Man, Night Flight should be removed from server cycles. No planes, no helicopters, barely any armour. If people play only it, their stats would show how good they are in fair fights against other infantry. Can't have that. That would be wrong.

If you want infantry only fights play it,do whatever you like  - but nobody needs and wants a RANKED infantry only mode except for all the pussies who can't adapt against things you can't kill(which is what makes BF2 better than your average CS-clon.).
Well, I'll respond to that by saying that only pussies who need an unfair advantage against people want infantry only to be unranked.
Quoted for truth.
2006-08-15 21:44:54
J=MAN
Member
+25|6928|OZ

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Noop-Ni wrote:

Wrong. Its the people who want tot play CS with BF2 guns who want INF only, and the real BF players who dont.
If being a real BF player means I have to enjoy someone talentless always beating me on the ground just because he has a J10, I don't think I want to be a real BF player.
Hey,then quit BF2.
It doesn't matter if the guy in a jet has talent or not,when you are in the wrong spot at the wrong time you are dead as dead can be and no 1337 AK-47 skillz can save you!!!

If your ego can't handle the fact that you die once in a while from jets or helis BF2 is in fact the wrong game for you.
Either take a jet yourself(if it doesn't take much skill you should have no problems to shoot the "talentless" down) or change to a game where you can kill the whole army with your handgun(CS:S,DoD,etc,etc,fuckin' etc.).

The infantry only option is ok as long as it is unranked,otherwise every other bastardized "game mode" of BF2 like K&P or "Admins get the jets" would be legitimate too.

If you want infantry only fights play it,do whatever you like  - but nobody needs and wants a RANKED infantry only mode except for all the pussies who can't adapt against things you can't kill(which is what makes BF2 better than your average CS-clon.).

If EA makes the infantry only option ranked they are pissing off every player who kept playing infantry with all the vehicles around and still could get good stats.
I was going to throw my two bob's worth in, but Blindfisch has already done it for me. The bottom line is if you can't handle all the big scary tanks and jets and helis, for you we have CS:S. I personally like both vehicle-whoring and ground-pounding, and my kills are roughly 50-50 in each area. I get a bit tired of hearing all that "real men don't use vehicles" and "getting kills in vehicles takes no skill" shit. Real men do whatever the hell they want.
2006-08-15 21:53:26
Noop-Ni
ROAR
+14|6769
Do the real men also force other people to play exactly how they want? That's what the people who want unranked infantry only seem to be demanding. They like something, therefore everyone else has to like it.
2006-08-15 22:37:58
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6967|Germany

Noop-Ni wrote:

Do the real men also force other people to play exactly how they want? That's what the people who want unranked infantry only seem to be demanding. They like something, therefore everyone else has to like it.
Like I said,do whatever you want,as long as it is unranked.

All the people who got good infantry stats played on servers with vehicles(or they padded and should be reset),now you want the same conditions for an easier game (no talentless jetwhorekills) and expect to get the same points from that for your stats?

"Boo-hoo,all the jets and tanks kill me all the time.Can't I just have an easier game but get the same points?"

Noop-Ni wrote:

The infantry only option is ok as long as it is unranked,otherwise every other bastardized "game mode" of BF2 like K&P or "Admins get the jets" would be legitimate too.
Does that include a bastardised game mode such as "No jets"? 'Cause there's plenty of servers with no jets, and they're all ranked. Does this mean Special Forces should be unranked, along with maps which don't feature every vehicle?

Man, Night Flight should be removed from server cycles. No planes, no helicopters, barely any armour. If people play only it, their stats would show how good they are in fair fights against other infantry. Can't have that. That would be wrong.
Are you just stupid,ignorant or both?
No jets server = against ROE

And your Night Flight example is just great.
You are right,if people play only it their stats would show how good they are in fair fights against other infantry.
But then it would be shown in the stats that these people spent most of their time on Night Flight.
You just want every map in "easy mode"(it's easier without jets and tanks,right?) for the same points,now that would be wrong.

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-08-15 22:48:49)

2006-08-16 00:17:07
Noop-Ni
ROAR
+14|6769

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Like I said,do whatever you want,as long as it is unranked.

All the people who got good infantry stats played on servers with vehicles(or they padded and should be reset),now you want the same conditions for an easier game (no talentless jetwhorekills) and expect to get the same points from that for your stats?
So you're saying that infantry only should be unranked so all the people who can got good infantry stats with vehicles involved can be distinguished from people who aren't getting killed by tanks?

"Boo-hoo,all the jets and tanks kill me all the time.Can't I just have an easier game but get the same points?"
"Man, I sure would like to have a fight which I don't automatically lose because someone managed to TK for a jet! Can't I have a fair fight for a change?"

Are you just stupid,ignorant or both?
No jets server = against ROE
I was referring to the maps which don't have planes in them. Last time I checked there were a few of them.

And your Night Flight example is just great.
You are right,if people play only it their stats would show how good they are in fair fights against other infantry.
But then it would be shown in the stats that these people spent most of their time on Night Flight.
You just want every map in "easy mode"(it's easier without jets and tanks,right?) for the same points,now that would be wrong.
But what if someone only plays 16 player versions of maps? If they're picking the right maps, there'll only be one tank per team to deal with, and no APCs, planes, or helicopters. Their stats won't have anything to distinguish them from someone who played, say, a 64 player Gulf of Oman server, and got killed by planes.


Saying that infantry only being ranked would mess up the system isn't really a good argument. The system is broken as hell already.

Last edited by Noop-Ni (2006-08-16 00:17:26)

2006-08-16 03:11:17
voltage
Member
+46|7111|Sweden
Why shouldn't COOP be ranked then?
2006-08-16 03:17:54
slash_clown
Member
+9|6737|Australia

voltage wrote:

Why shouldn't COOP be ranked then?
kidnap the bots
2006-08-16 03:18:33
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6839

voltage wrote:

Why shouldn't COOP be ranked then?
Use your brain! CoOp Bots on 0,1 and a KDR of 100:1 each round...
2006-08-16 04:08:22
Samtheman53
Banned
+346|6966|UK

k30dxedle wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Samtheman53 wrote:


Yes and proud!

BUT! The people who Im raping are at unfair advantage as there are people who play on infantry only!!
I am truly not following you at all in this thread.
Neither am I.

@Samtheman: LMAOWTF? You're raping the carrier and the guys on it have an unfair advantage? How's that work?
I said that wrong, the people on IO have the unfair advantage over people on the carrier
2006-08-16 07:54:29
Chuckles
Member
+32|6818
Samtheman53,

Regarding the post immediately above this one, what exactly would that advantage be, especially when they wouldn't even be in the same server?

I KNOW you don't have any sympathy for the guys that are on the carrier and getting spawn raped by jets or helicopters.  That's definitely not what you're saying.  So what exactly do you mean?

You've never answered how people playing on infantry only has any effect on people playing on non infantry only.  And while we're at it, someone above asked if Special Forces should be ranked since it's got a heavy infantry emphasis.  What about that?

Last edited by Chuckles (2006-08-16 08:13:53)

2006-08-16 08:03:37
Chuckles
Member
+32|6818

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Are you just stupid,ignorant or both?
No jets server = against ROE

And your Night Flight example is just great.
You are right,if people play only it their stats would show how good they are in fair fights against other infantry.
But then it would be shown in the stats that these people spent most of their time on Night Flight.
You just want every map in "easy mode"(it's easier without jets and tanks,right?) for the same points,now that would be wrong.[/color]
First of all, apparently if EA is going to add an infantry only mode then it's not going to be against the ROE.  This is the same ROE you're defending that most people on these forums think is a joke, right?

And if I understand the second part of your argument correctly it's fine for people to rack up easy kills with jets and planes, but if they rack up kills in fair fights it's "wrong".  Really?  That's what you want to say? 

What about the argument that "you just want every map in "easy mode" (it's easier for you to rack up big K/D ratios and points when you're whoring jets and tanks, right?). 

And what do you care if people play infantry only?  If you don't like it, please, please, please, don't play it.
2006-08-16 08:11:23
voltage
Member
+46|7111|Sweden

fierce wrote:

voltage wrote:

Why shouldn't COOP be ranked then?
Use your brain! CoOp Bots on 0,1 and a KDR of 100:1 each round...
It's just an option, if you don't like it then don't play it?

Btw, your previous post gave the impression that you didn't care about stat? Then why do you want COOP removed?
2006-08-16 08:12:45
voltage
Member
+46|7111|Sweden

Chuckles wrote:

And what exactly would that advantage be, especially when they wouldn't even be in the same server?

You've never answered how people playing on infantry only has any effect on people playing on non infantry only.  And while we're at it, someone above asked if Special Forces should be ranked since it's got a heavy infantry emphasis.  What about that?
The SF hours are clearly visible in the stat, infantry_only is not.
2006-08-16 08:23:50
Samtheman53
Banned
+346|6966|UK

Chuckles wrote:

Samtheman53,

Regarding the post immediately above this one, what exactly would that advantage be, especially when they wouldn't even be in the same server?

I KNOW you don't have any sympathy for the guys that are on the carrier and getting spawn raped by jets or helicopters.  That's definitely not what you're saying.  So what exactly do you mean?

You've never answered how people playing on infantry only has any effect on people playing on non infantry only.  And while we're at it, someone above asked if Special Forces should be ranked since it's got a heavy infantry emphasis.  What about that?
URGH people on IO servers CAN NOT be raped by vehicles!!!
people not on IO servers CAN!!!
2006-08-16 08:24:09
De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6798|Belgium

it shouldn't, I smell padding and medic whoring. a support as SL and 5 medics is all you need in infantry only. The games will take ages because there are 10 medics jumping on you to revive you as soon as you die. And then they will reset people for padding because they have a 400 BR on karkand.
2006-08-16 08:36:03
AAFCptKabbom
Member
+127|6928|WPB, FL. USA
I say we do what's right for the customer - all the customers {everyone but Cameronpooh}

New Maps {plus keep old ones}:
- A knife only map {Jungle warfare with no medics, or armor, or arti, both day and night}.
- A pistol only map {Urban warfare with medic bags and no revive, jeeps only, no arti, both day and night}.
- A Sniper only map {Recon warfare w/ knives, pistols, and sniper rifle, no arti or vehicles, both day and night, etc.}.
- A Liberal Pacifist map {were everyone sits around their TV watching the biased media promote their propaganda and/or read blogs all day in the security of their air conditioned home in a city in the U.S. that has never been terrorized, the only way to win against this enemy is to either 1} Get them to come out into the daylight - in which they immediately die of reality, or 2} Have two squad members grab the shoulders of the enemy and pull as hard as they can until they pull the head out the ass of the enemy - and of coarse the enemy immediately dies from getting oxygen to the brain}

You guys are NUTZ - EA/Dice can fuck-up a wet dream and you want them to come up with new bugs - ooops- I mean new maps.  These guys, collectively, don't have the ability to handle what they created now let alone make a new map and figure out how it should be played.

I say we take our best players, form squads, attack DICE, and hold them hostage until they fix the damn bugs in the game NOW! They need to see how serious and passionate we are about BF2  ...and next the WORLD mu-haha 

Kaboom.

Last edited by AAFCptKabbom (2006-08-16 08:37:47)

2006-08-16 08:38:49
airborne916
Member
+24|6936
why are people being such bitchs about tanks and jets now in days. Thats why you roll in a squad, its so much better. Like one time i was playing in a squad were avryone had mics, it was the best time of my life wile playing bf2. (im not saying bf2 is the most fun i even had in my life im saying its the most fun i ever had playing bf2) I was the spec ops, we had every class in our squad. We took out tanks so easy. Like the assualt would throw smoke across the map so the tank would look there then me our the tank class would kill it. We would even some time work like this: assualt throws smoke, tank class would hit the tank, the tank would look over at him and by that time i would be puting c4 on that tank and blowing it up. Its really a fun game when u work as a team.
2006-08-16 08:40:41
manitobapaintballa
Member
+32|6889
ya
2006-08-16 08:45:26
t3hhax
Banned
+4|6738

Samtheman53 wrote:

-[Silver.Inc* wrote:

So i'm guessing your one of the people who rape the carrier in a J10...
Yes and proud!

BUT! The people who Im raping are at unfair advantage as there are people who play on infantry only!!
Ok WTF I didin't is it just me?
2006-08-16 08:59:27
Chuckles
Member
+32|6818

Samtheman53 wrote:

Chuckles wrote:

Samtheman53,

Regarding the post immediately above this one, what exactly would that advantage be, especially when they wouldn't even be in the same server?

I KNOW you don't have any sympathy for the guys that are on the carrier and getting spawn raped by jets or helicopters.  That's definitely not what you're saying.  So what exactly do you mean?

You've never answered how people playing on infantry only has any effect on people playing on non infantry only.  And while we're at it, someone above asked if Special Forces should be ranked since it's got a heavy infantry emphasis.  What about that?
URGH people on IO servers CAN NOT be raped by vehicles!!!
people not on IO servers CAN!!!
But you don't care about people that get raped by jets.  You admit that you are a carrier raper yourself.  If you really cared about them you wouldn't be the biggest class offender. 

So I ask again, why do you care? 

And won't EVERYBODY be allowed to play on IO servers?  So if people are so sick of getting raped by some weapon they can do nothing about, they can jump out and go play IO. 

Of course, that just leaves fewer people for you to spawn rape, doesn't it?

Last edited by Chuckles (2006-08-16 09:02:02)

2006-08-16 09:10:51
Samtheman53
Banned
+346|6966|UK

Chuckles wrote:

Samtheman53 wrote:

Chuckles wrote:

Samtheman53,

Regarding the post immediately above this one, what exactly would that advantage be, especially when they wouldn't even be in the same server?

I KNOW you don't have any sympathy for the guys that are on the carrier and getting spawn raped by jets or helicopters.  That's definitely not what you're saying.  So what exactly do you mean?

You've never answered how people playing on infantry only has any effect on people playing on non infantry only.  And while we're at it, someone above asked if Special Forces should be ranked since it's got a heavy infantry emphasis.  What about that?
URGH people on IO servers CAN NOT be raped by vehicles!!!
people not on IO servers CAN!!!
But you don't care about people that get raped by jets.  You admit that you are a carrier raper yourself.  If you really cared about them you wouldn't be the biggest class offender. 

So I ask again, why do you care? 

And won't EVERYBODY be allowed to play on IO servers?  So if people are so sick of getting raped by some weapon they can do nothing about, they can jump out and go play IO. 

Of course, that just leaves fewer people for you to spawn rape, doesn't it?
Will you stfu everyone else is moaning like you
2006-08-16 09:13:22
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|6956
BF2 and CS are 2 tottaly different games even if IO is on. Are there any medics in CS:S no, are there any playable character that you can get ammo from, NO is there a kit who can repair stuff with a wrench NO. SO STOP SAYING ITS GONNA BE LIKE CS:S OR CS.
2006-08-16 09:28:26
Chuckles
Member
+32|6818

Samtheman53 wrote:

Will you stfu everyone else is moaning like you
That's your argument?  Well, I guess you showed me.  Clearly IO shouldn't be ranked, based on that kind of reasoning.  You, sir, are an oratorical wizard.

You never have answered this question:  WHY DO YOU CARE IF PEOPLE PLAY ON IO SERVERS?  You don't care about people getting spawnraped by jets or you wouldn't do it yourself (and certainly you wouldn't be so proud of it).  You will never have to play on them if you don't want to. 

I hate to be one of those guys that points to people's stats, but I think this case warrants it.  You have about 32,000 kills, of which over 16,000 have come from a jet and another 2500 from a helicopter.  I think just maybe I've found why you are so adamantly against IO servers.  Fewer targets for you to spawn rape maybe?

If everyone else is "moaning like me" doesn't that make it look like maybe I'm right?  The poll you were so eager to post would indicate that I am......

Don't you just hate it when you post a poll and it goes completely opposite of what you hoped it would!

Last edited by Chuckles (2006-08-16 10:12:00)

 

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