rofl ur sig... sry offtopic!
yes the players keep spawning there after 10 deaths and complain about raping a !CAPPABLE! flag! ^^
yes the players keep spawning there after 10 deaths and complain about raping a !CAPPABLE! flag! ^^
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You know, you're right, I was going off topic there my bad.
But there is such a thing as team work, I'm sure if you guys thought about it you could take it down, you could go AT, it's easy to hit a heli that's camping with it, and nearly 90% of the time you only need one shot for them to run off and repair. Or you could distract them and have a team member wait on the stingers.
But there is such a thing as team work, I'm sure if you guys thought about it you could take it down, you could go AT, it's easy to hit a heli that's camping with it, and nearly 90% of the time you only need one shot for them to run off and repair. Or you could distract them and have a team member wait on the stingers.
i dont get why people complain about choppers, when they dont do anything about it. for example, i saw from afar, 10 or so usmc on the tv station, getting raped by the mi28. if they had all fired their weapons at it, whatever they had, i can guarentee it would have gone down damn fast. whenever i see a hostile chopper overhead i always shoot at it, whether that be rockets, sniper rounds, rifle rounds, or even good old 9mm beretta rounds
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How about maybe 1 stinger per at kit though? Since two would mean airplanes and helo's would be absolutely useless with at men everywhere to shoot at them. AA sites are there use em!!!
You can already take down choppers; it's called an SRAW.
ah well, we have mods with plenty of that shit, and MORE! yay for mods!
AA is not a sure hit, if you think it is you need to fly better.
I used to think shoulder-mounted stingers would be good, but they would overpower transport choppers by a long shot!
I used to think shoulder-mounted stingers would be good, but they would overpower transport choppers by a long shot!
THe AA in this video looks really powerful. In one of the shots, the soldier doesn't even have to keep a lock on to get the kill.
I man the AA if a plane or helo is getting on my nerves. It gives me something to do, and hopefully helps the team. That said, they do seem underpowered. Especially the Cinese/MEC ones.
Some good tactics need to be employed to land your hits but the bottom line is, if the enemy pilot breaks tone, you're not gonna get em. I always aim above the aircraft so when the flares drop I can hold patiently. As soon as the lock goes again BAM, BAM - two rockets away! It doesn't always work but, hey, you tried.
Then there are more direct ways of taking out an air threat. For example, on Daging Oilfield (but works on plenty of other maps), take a three man team (supply, sniper and special ops in an FAV) and cause havoc at the airfield. Snipers snipes (from distance, apart from the odd run into the base to lay claymores on heli pads), spec ops blows sh1t up and supply resupplies and provides cover fire if they come too close to your position. If you get rumbled (you will eventually), just jump in the FAV you hid close by and haul ass!
It's a lot of fun and does serve the team by causing a good distraction for their would-be air men.
I man the AA if a plane or helo is getting on my nerves. It gives me something to do, and hopefully helps the team. That said, they do seem underpowered. Especially the Cinese/MEC ones.
Some good tactics need to be employed to land your hits but the bottom line is, if the enemy pilot breaks tone, you're not gonna get em. I always aim above the aircraft so when the flares drop I can hold patiently. As soon as the lock goes again BAM, BAM - two rockets away! It doesn't always work but, hey, you tried.
Then there are more direct ways of taking out an air threat. For example, on Daging Oilfield (but works on plenty of other maps), take a three man team (supply, sniper and special ops in an FAV) and cause havoc at the airfield. Snipers snipes (from distance, apart from the odd run into the base to lay claymores on heli pads), spec ops blows sh1t up and supply resupplies and provides cover fire if they come too close to your position. If you get rumbled (you will eventually), just jump in the FAV you hid close by and haul ass!
It's a lot of fun and does serve the team by causing a good distraction for their would-be air men.
Good idea but they need to be weaker, say 1/4 dmg per shot on a combat chopper...
Incidentally to the guy earlier who said no pilot would want this.... i like flying a lot, im not the best but i can say < 5% of my deaths in planes r from stationary sites, just learn where they are if it has a box around it fill it with lead they simply dont stand even the mildest chance. its even easier in a chopper just go low and it cant even see you usually, infanty based AA would be great but as i say it needs to be weak in comparison to other AA
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Incidentally to the guy earlier who said no pilot would want this.... i like flying a lot, im not the best but i can say < 5% of my deaths in planes r from stationary sites, just learn where they are if it has a box around it fill it with lead they simply dont stand even the mildest chance. its even easier in a chopper just go low and it cant even see you usually, infanty based AA would be great but as i say it needs to be weak in comparison to other AA
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Its a very good idea in by opion. We could make it and unlock for the AT kit, or just give them those things off the bat (probably easier option). Chopper whoring is so bad on some maps (in perticular Shraqi and the SF maps) and jet whoring is even worse. And I mean the guys do get flares and the guy could only fire one missile before reloading and it takes two missiles to kill a chopper or jet. So one guy would be ill-equiped to handel it and it could be that he only gets a total of three missiles. Also they could have it so the flares recharge faster. That way the aircraft can still dominate but it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad as it is now.
No shit, how much more do u want. It's already turning into CS for christ sake.Doggehspike wrote:
I disagree, that would probably take alot of fun out the game and people would kick up shit.
And whats the point? You already have infantry only coming.
Dont stand on top of the tv station like an idiot and thats not an issue.BolvisOculus wrote:
Because sometimes you like to play with vehicles but you don't like to play rounds where the Havoc circles the TV station the entire time.Doggehspike wrote:
I don't see what the big problem is, if infantry only is coming why not play that instead of screwing it up for everyone one else that actually enjoys the way it is now?
Exactly.Delphy wrote:
You can already take down choppers; it's called an SRAW.
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Or get the POE2-Mod that is going to be released next saturday...
Common sense would help ALOT when ur getting pwned by a vehicle. Either fight back or spawn somewhere else. .... Duh?
Edit Oh but i forgot, it's much easier to cry nerf than it is to... think.
Edit Oh but i forgot, it's much easier to cry nerf than it is to... think.
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Though I look great, I can allready see that in a Wake 64 slot scenario, the entire USMC team will spawn as a friggin AA personal thingy. would be pretty fucked up..
Just make it so officers and above could unlock an AA in place of an AT.RDMC(2) wrote:
Though I look great, I can allready see that in a Wake 64 slot scenario, the entire USMC team will spawn as a friggin AA personal thingy. would be pretty fucked up..
this is why infantry only is coming out. if you can't handle the air power, play that. and only a fraction of pilots in choppers and jets are any good, the rest just act that way.usmarine2005 wrote:
Damn right this game needs stingers. All these 1337 "pilots" would have half the amount of points per round.
It would be nice to have stinger kits laying around in certain spots that people could just pick up and use similar to the way it worked in DC.
i'd love to take those guys down who whore the planes and helis etc. but when i go in em' id get so pissed
*sigh* I can handle the air power, that is not my point. Jets are a huge problem on maps, and it has nothing to do with killing. All they do is cause team killing and people crying and bitching at each other. You see five or more people standing around the runway waiting for a jet, why? Points. It is disturbingly easy to fly and drop bombs everywhere, so you can rack up a lot of points. If you make it harder for people to just roam around the map in the air, knowing where to go to avoid AA and the best angle to attack the same AA site that has been in the exact same spot for over year, then you might cut down on all the bitching and moaning that people hate about air maps.comet241 wrote:
this is why infantry only is coming out. if you can't handle the air power, play that. and only a fraction of pilots in choppers and jets are any good, the rest just act that way.usmarine2005 wrote:
Damn right this game needs stingers. All these 1337 "pilots" would have half the amount of points per round.
Problem with this owuld be that every single player would be that kit with a couple medics and supports to toos ammo and med packs around and no one would really fly around anymore.
I think it would be pretty sweet if they had the shoulder mounted stingers...as an option to the AT kit (either AT or Stinger option).
I am all for options and diversity within the game....the more options the more realistic (or at least more things to try and have fun with).
How was video made...just some customization to the AT?
I am all for options and diversity within the game....the more options the more realistic (or at least more things to try and have fun with).
How was video made...just some customization to the AT?
All this bickering is retarded. Chopper/jet pilots probably don't WANT more weapons locking onto them (especially F-35 pilots) and if there were shoulder fired stingers available not EVERYONE would use that kit.
Here's the breakdown: Add the stingers to an AT kit or some other kit, or make a new kit with it...everyone starts using it to get rid of jets and choppers...people either stop flying becuase they can't go ten feet without getting shot down...or nine of the ten people with the AA kit stop carrying the kit because they're tired of the guy next to them always getting the kill when a jet or chopper finally comes around. Point being, if you have one target and ten shooters, either the target will get tired of always dieing, or nine of the ten people not getting the kills will get tired of wasting their time. Eventually everything will even out.
Now for the cold hard facts...shoulder fired stingers will not get added to BF2 so none of this matters.
Have a nice day.
Here's the breakdown: Add the stingers to an AT kit or some other kit, or make a new kit with it...everyone starts using it to get rid of jets and choppers...people either stop flying becuase they can't go ten feet without getting shot down...or nine of the ten people with the AA kit stop carrying the kit because they're tired of the guy next to them always getting the kill when a jet or chopper finally comes around. Point being, if you have one target and ten shooters, either the target will get tired of always dieing, or nine of the ten people not getting the kills will get tired of wasting their time. Eventually everything will even out.
Now for the cold hard facts...shoulder fired stingers will not get added to BF2 so none of this matters.
Have a nice day.
People are afraid of change that's all... It's the people that don't want to try to adapt that are afraid & are complaining and bitching...
Make the shoulder fired AA's manual aimed like it was on Desert Combat... You acutally had to have skill to shoot down a plane on Desert Combat because you had to lead the target and adjust for speed & what not...
As for people bitching saying there's enough AA's on most air maps that's bullshiet... Any good pilot wouldn't stick around for the IGLA to reload and it doesn't take much for a jet to get out of range... Besides it takes on average of 3 hits to blow up a jet and that's not including the damn J-10 with its super armor and missile evasion... In all honesty... The only jets you can shoot down in a IGLA/Stinger are the nub pilots... Put any half decent pilot and it ain't gonna happen...
Make the shoulder fired AA's manual aimed like it was on Desert Combat... You acutally had to have skill to shoot down a plane on Desert Combat because you had to lead the target and adjust for speed & what not...
As for people bitching saying there's enough AA's on most air maps that's bullshiet... Any good pilot wouldn't stick around for the IGLA to reload and it doesn't take much for a jet to get out of range... Besides it takes on average of 3 hits to blow up a jet and that's not including the damn J-10 with its super armor and missile evasion... In all honesty... The only jets you can shoot down in a IGLA/Stinger are the nub pilots... Put any half decent pilot and it ain't gonna happen...
One damned missile should down a plane. Composites, plastics and aluminum can't take HE...