i played Surge to day.. and i tried the the new BMP 3and it is really funny.. its a apc with t-90 characteristics..:p its is just as slow and has the same gun.. but it has the armor strenght of a normal Lav-25 or and other apc.. really fun:p
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Yeh I dont get this, wtf?
It has the same weapon as a tank, but the armour of a normal APC?
That sounds the suxx0rz man.
Now you only have the machine gun to own infantry troups.
It has the same weapon as a tank, but the armour of a normal APC?
That sounds the suxx0rz man.
Now you only have the machine gun to own infantry troups.
yeah strange ha!.. i thought like heey cool a tank with place for 5 peeps.. but it has a t-90 gun and machine gun of the t-90 but the armour is a weak as an apc.. 2 rounds and it will explode..Sgt.Gh0st wrote:
Yeh I dont get this, wtf?
It has the same weapon as a tank, but the armour of a normal APC?
That sounds the suxx0rz man.
Now you only have the machine gun to own infantry troups.
BMP-3:
Weight (t): 18.7 (loaded)
Personnel capacity: 7 (+3 crew)
Maximum speed (km/h): 70/20
Highway fuel endurance (km): 600-800
Engine: Diezel UTD-29,four stroke, liquid cooled
hydrojet- one stage type
Power max (kW): 368
Mximum rate of fire (m): 100 mm cannon- 4'000,
30mm- 4'000
Laying angles, elev.: -6 to +60 degrees
-traverse: 360 deg
Ammunition, shells: 305 in two carteige belts; one with armour piercing, second with high explosive incendiary shells
Nominal ground pressure, kgf/sq.cm 0.61
Max cruising range, on highway, km 600
Traverse zone of fire, deg 360
Elevation zone of fire, deg -6 ... +60
100 mm gun/missile launcher
Missile loading manual
Range of missile fire, m 100 ... 4,000
Range of gun fire, m Up to 4,000
Rate of fire, rounds/min 10
100 mm round load, pieces 40
Guided missile load, pieces 8
30 mm automatic gun:
Range of fire, m 300
30 mm ammunition load, pcs 500
7.62 mm machine gun (3 pcs):
Ammunition load, cartridges 6,000
Dimensions, m:
length, hull 6.715
width, over tracks 3.15
height, turret roof 3.57
Communications equipment: R-173 Transceiver, R-173P Receiver, R-174 Intercom
GUNS:
The powerful armament system mounted in the rotating turret comprises 2A70 100 mm Gun/Missile Launcher, 2A72 30 mm Automatic Gun and one 7.62 mm PKT Machine Gun, all stabilized in vertical and horizontal planes. Two 7.62 mm PKT Machine Guns with TNP3VE01 fibre-optics sight are mounted in the hull.
The gun of 100 mm big calibre, unique for ICVs, combines capabilities of conventional artillery pieces and guided weapons. The unique design of the autoloader allows fire delivery at a high rate within the entire range of gun elevation angles. The firing accuracy is considerably increased owing to optimal characteristics of the armament stabilizer.
The BMP-3 ICV features automatic fire control system allowing gun fire and missile launches through gun barrel on the move. It comprises ID16 Laser Range-finder and a Ballistic Data Computer, 1K13-2 Day/Night Gunner's Sight with OU-5 Searchlight, PPB-2 Gunner's Monocular Periscope Sight,
1PZ-10 Commander's Monocular Periscope Day Sight, TKN-3MB Commander's Day/Night Vision Device with OU-3 IR Illuminator.
http://warfare.ru/?lang=&catid=245&linkid=1784
Weight (t): 18.7 (loaded)
Personnel capacity: 7 (+3 crew)
Maximum speed (km/h): 70/20
Highway fuel endurance (km): 600-800
Engine: Diezel UTD-29,four stroke, liquid cooled
hydrojet- one stage type
Power max (kW): 368
Mximum rate of fire (m): 100 mm cannon- 4'000,
30mm- 4'000
Laying angles, elev.: -6 to +60 degrees
-traverse: 360 deg
Ammunition, shells: 305 in two carteige belts; one with armour piercing, second with high explosive incendiary shells
Nominal ground pressure, kgf/sq.cm 0.61
Max cruising range, on highway, km 600
Traverse zone of fire, deg 360
Elevation zone of fire, deg -6 ... +60
100 mm gun/missile launcher
Missile loading manual
Range of missile fire, m 100 ... 4,000
Range of gun fire, m Up to 4,000
Rate of fire, rounds/min 10
100 mm round load, pieces 40
Guided missile load, pieces 8
30 mm automatic gun:
Range of fire, m 300
30 mm ammunition load, pcs 500
7.62 mm machine gun (3 pcs):
Ammunition load, cartridges 6,000
Dimensions, m:
length, hull 6.715
width, over tracks 3.15
height, turret roof 3.57
Communications equipment: R-173 Transceiver, R-173P Receiver, R-174 Intercom
GUNS:
The powerful armament system mounted in the rotating turret comprises 2A70 100 mm Gun/Missile Launcher, 2A72 30 mm Automatic Gun and one 7.62 mm PKT Machine Gun, all stabilized in vertical and horizontal planes. Two 7.62 mm PKT Machine Guns with TNP3VE01 fibre-optics sight are mounted in the hull.
The gun of 100 mm big calibre, unique for ICVs, combines capabilities of conventional artillery pieces and guided weapons. The unique design of the autoloader allows fire delivery at a high rate within the entire range of gun elevation angles. The firing accuracy is considerably increased owing to optimal characteristics of the armament stabilizer.
The BMP-3 ICV features automatic fire control system allowing gun fire and missile launches through gun barrel on the move. It comprises ID16 Laser Range-finder and a Ballistic Data Computer, 1K13-2 Day/Night Gunner's Sight with OU-5 Searchlight, PPB-2 Gunner's Monocular Periscope Sight,
1PZ-10 Commander's Monocular Periscope Day Sight, TKN-3MB Commander's Day/Night Vision Device with OU-3 IR Illuminator.
http://warfare.ru/?lang=&catid=245&linkid=1784
Last edited by Dr.Battlefield (2005-11-30 14:17:26)
BMp3 = steel grave. If a BMP3 is on the map, there are also RPGs, and die BMP is no match for them. Also useless: TOW Humvee.
aha.. well maybe it wasn't the BMP-3 .. i will check it again sometime!Dr.Battlefield wrote:
BMP-3:
Weight (t): 18.7 (loaded)
Personnel capacity: 7 (+3 crew)
Maximum speed (km/h): 70/20
Highway fuel endurance (km): 600-800
Engine: Diezel UTD-29,four stroke, liquid cooled
hydrojet- one stage type
Power max (kW): 368
Mximum rate of fire (m): 100 mm cannon- 4'000,
30mm- 4'000
Laying angles, elev.: -6 to +60 degrees
-traverse: 360 deg
Ammunition, shells: 305 in two carteige belts; one with armour piercing, second with high explosive incendiary shells
Nominal ground pressure, kgf/sq.cm 0.61
Max cruising range, on highway, km 600
Traverse zone of fire, deg 360
Elevation zone of fire, deg -6 ... +60
100 mm gun/missile launcher
Missile loading manual
Range of missile fire, m 100 ... 4,000
Range of gun fire, m Up to 4,000
Rate of fire, rounds/min 10
100 mm round load, pieces 40
Guided missile load, pieces 8
30 mm automatic gun:
Range of fire, m 300
30 mm ammunition load, pcs 500
7.62 mm machine gun (3 pcs):
Ammunition load, cartridges 6,000
Dimensions, m:
length, hull 6.715
width, over tracks 3.15
height, turret roof 3.57
Communications equipment: R-173 Transceiver, R-173P Receiver, R-174 Intercom
GUNS:
The powerful armament system mounted in the rotating turret comprises 2A70 100 mm Gun/Missile Launcher, 2A72 30 mm Automatic Gun and one 7.62 mm PKT Machine Gun, all stabilized in vertical and horizontal planes. Two 7.62 mm PKT Machine Guns with TNP3VE01 fibre-optics sight are mounted in the hull.
The gun of 100 mm big calibre, unique for ICVs, combines capabilities of conventional artillery pieces and guided weapons. The unique design of the autoloader allows fire delivery at a high rate within the entire range of gun elevation angles. The firing accuracy is considerably increased owing to optimal characteristics of the armament stabilizer.
The BMP-3 ICV features automatic fire control system allowing gun fire and missile launches through gun barrel on the move. It comprises ID16 Laser Range-finder and a Ballistic Data Computer, 1K13-2 Day/Night Gunner's Sight with OU-5 Searchlight, PPB-2 Gunner's Monocular Periscope Sight,
1PZ-10 Commander's Monocular Periscope Day Sight, TKN-3MB Commander's Day/Night Vision Device with OU-3 IR Illuminator.
http://warfare.ru/?lang=&catid=245&linkid=1784
Basically I agree. Its hard to operate any vehicle in SF now. Especially because of RPGs and AT grapple hooks. So they just kill you from above.Knochenmann_AUT wrote:
BMp3 = steel grave. If a BMP3 is on the map, there are also RPGs, and die BMP is no match for them. Also useless: TOW Humvee.
well in real life the bmp3 is pretty bitchin, i mean it has a 30mm cannon AND a smooth bore gun? AND 7.62 coax and some firing ports... I say hell yea.RDMC wrote:
i played Surge to day.. and i tried the the new BMP 3and it is really funny.. its a apc with t-90 characteristics..:p its is just as slow and has the same gun.. but it has the armor strenght of a normal Lav-25 or and other apc.. really fun:p
Too bad they gimped it in the game.
BMP3 = russian version of the American Bradley. It doesn't have the same gun as the T-90.
T-90 = 125mm gun - BMP3 = 100
T-90 = 125mm gun - BMP3 = 100
Sry, but you forgot 100 mm gun/missle launcherbeeng wrote:
well in real life the bmp3 is pretty bitchin, i mean it has a 30mm cannon AND a smooth bore gun? AND 7.62 coax and some firing ports... I say hell yea.RDMC wrote:
i played Surge to day.. and i tried the the new BMP 3and it is really funny.. its a apc with t-90 characteristics..:p its is just as slow and has the same gun.. but it has the armor strenght of a normal Lav-25 or and other apc.. really fun:p
Too bad they gimped it in the game.
No matter what, this thing does not more damage than a normal APC does. If you time your APCs rocket right you can do tremendous damage to a tank.
And the Humvee TOW isn't useless, the problem is, it's just as accurate as the gunner, so best thing is shooting this weapon while the Humvee is standing. As a driver I almost everytime stop the vehicle, when I see an enemy thet's not aware of me/us, so I/ or the gunner can take him out more easily. I manged to kill a Moblie AA and a tank each with 1 shot, one after the other, you just have to be prepared to bail out, if it doesn't destroy the target with the first shot. I've been even shot from a Humvee mounted TOW while on foot, this thing does really deal some damage.
And the Humvee TOW isn't useless, the problem is, it's just as accurate as the gunner, so best thing is shooting this weapon while the Humvee is standing. As a driver I almost everytime stop the vehicle, when I see an enemy thet's not aware of me/us, so I/ or the gunner can take him out more easily. I manged to kill a Moblie AA and a tank each with 1 shot, one after the other, you just have to be prepared to bail out, if it doesn't destroy the target with the first shot. I've been even shot from a Humvee mounted TOW while on foot, this thing does really deal some damage.
The bad thing about stopping for better aim is your vulnerability. Not yours, but every person inside the vehicle.
I like to use transport vehicles for just that; transport.
I like to use transport vehicles for just that; transport.
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