BF2S Forums some combat questions

does a teamkill count towards a kill on that equipment? - No

if you shoot someone witha vodnik thats a transport kill ? - Yes

if you gun the chopper thats a chopper kill right ? - Yes

why doesnt the commander get assist points anymore? - Patch fixed it.

why doesnt the commander get tk's or points for arty kills anymore ? - No TKs because smacktards were running into arty on purpose and punishing so the commmander would get kicked. No points for arty because commanders were exploiting it to up their K/D ratio rather than using the way it was intended plus with no more TKs, selfish commander could care less if they TKed with aarty as long as they got points for killing the enemy.

also it seems the commander gets points strictly for being commander for a period of time ? what designates a commander point ? - Commanders gets an average of what the players score on his team. 5  players score 100, 75, 50 25, 0, then commander gets 50 before 2x bonus.

can you get air defense ribbon strictly by killing infantry with  the aa vehicle ? - Yes and K/D stats are recorded as AA as well.

I cannot answer the SF questions.

also it seems the commander gets points strictly for being commander for a period of time ? what designates a commander point ? - Commanders gets an average of what the players score on his team. 5  players score 100, 75, 50 25, 0, then commander gets 50 before 2x bonus.

Excuse me if im missing something but wouldnt this make it impossible for a commander to finish top?
If you take the teams average then its impossible... i KNOW i have seen commanders finish top before (post patch.... and im sure before the x2 bonus as well?!?!?!?! )

Barrakuda777 wrote:

also it seems the commander gets points strictly for being commander for a period of time ? what designates a commander point ? - Commanders gets an average of what the players score on his team. 5  players score 100, 75, 50 25, 0, then commander gets 50 before 2x bonus.

Excuse me if im missing something but wouldnt this make it impossible for a commander to finish top?
If you take the teams average then its impossible... i KNOW i have seen commanders finish top before (post patch.... and im sure before the x2 bonus as well?!?!?!?! )

Only if the scores are exactly the way I posted would he finish tied at top. If the scores were 80,70,60,50, and 40, then the average would be 60 and the 2x bonus would give him 120, which is well above the top player of 80. If commander gets gold without 2x bonus it's because he aquired points outside of his commnader role such as team and combat points. A commander who spawn camps with a tank will likely take gold since he gets all of those combat points + his commander points.

You still get those points, they just don't record as commander points nor are they included in your 2x bonus.

*Edit* That is if you take commander after receiveing those points.

Last edited by M1-Lightning (2005-12-01 15:10:39)

Yeah really. The commander should get no points for revives, supply, combat, etc but should definitely get points for defending a flag with arty, holding a majority of the flags, and for every time a teammate defends a flag. I like that the commander gets an average of the team's score but it should only be an average of the team's combat score rather than global score. It would encourage more UAV and enemy spotted.

chitlin wrote:

why should he get no points for revives and supplies combat anything anyone else gets ...i know that you want the commander to do his job and if he does then why should he be punished by not awarding him when he helps .. this comes from my personal opinion that commanding is not a full time job ..i can drop the supllies uav and arty in the 1 second of time it takes to do it .. then i can play ...if somethig important pops up i can then take a 1 min break to command .. but thereafter i would like to actually play ..

It's not a punishment. It's encouragement to stay in the commander screen. If a commander got points like everyone else then where's the encouragement to stay out of the jet or get out of the meat grinder? A commander does no good for the team when lying on his back for 15 seconds everytime he wants more points. Sure you can throw UAV, supllies and whatever but you can't watch the whole map when you're in a  firefight.

Take for instance Karkand, since it's a popular one.  If you're in the meat grinder as MEC reviving people, how in the hell can you tell if some guy gets by the frontline in a humvee? Are you going to go to your commander screen in the meat grinder ever ten seconds? Then you'll be killled by the next M203 round and you'll be on your back for 15 seconds before you can get back to your commander screen. Then what? You've lost a flag in the back and the backflood begins.

If you want to play as a grunt that bad, then stop taking commander. Let someone else do it.

Some Azrael guy kept taking commander this morning as MEC on Karkand and did just what you want to do. He took the tank evertime and sat at the frontline getting his selfish points. He kept forgetting to use UAV since he was always engaged with the enemy and the UAV he did out up there was only on the Hotel. We lost every round he did this because we lost flags in the rear since he wasn't paying attention to his commander screen.

I got fed up with it and took commander from him the next round. System grabbed the tank before he could and what do you know, Azrael disconnects and we start winning.

Now if there only a handfull of people in the server and no one wants to be commander then I understand being a fighting commander. I do that too if it's needed. I always put a text message up there for any new BF2 players who want to try comnader out and always get outranked for it any other time.

But why do you need points? You already get points when your teammates get points. And if your team sucks that bad and you REALLY REALLY want points that bad, then *disconnect*, find a different server where there is a full time commander who spots your back for you.

chitlin wrote:

i dont really care that much about points but it makes me a little less eager to revive someone when i get nothing for it ...

and your example of one retard means nothing to me ... i can command just fine in the field ...if something requires my attention ill find somewhere to hide ..

You should be eager to revive someone since dead teammates don't help you win. It counts against your tickets if they die.

The problem with waiting to hide when it's necessary is that it's often too late to do anything about it. You should catch the guy sneaking to your flag rather than waiting until you notice it turns grey. UAV doesn't catch everything.

The sad thing is that when you are the victim of a TK it counts towards your deaths.

M1-Lightning wrote:

Barrakuda777 wrote:

also it seems the commander gets points strictly for being commander for a period of time ? what designates a commander point ? - Commanders gets an average of what the players score on his team. 5  players score 100, 75, 50 25, 0, then commander gets 50 before 2x bonus.

Excuse me if im missing something but wouldnt this make it impossible for a commander to finish top?
If you take the teams average then its impossible... i KNOW i have seen commanders finish top before (post patch.... and im sure before the x2 bonus as well?!?!?!?! )

Only if the scores are exactly the way I posted would he finish tied at top. If the scores were 80,70,60,50, and 40, then the average would be 60 and the 2x bonus would give him 120, which is well above the top player of 80. If commander gets gold without 2x bonus it's because he aquired points outside of his commnader role such as team and combat points. A commander who spawn camps with a tank will likely take gold since he gets all of those combat points + his commander points.

just one thing.. commander doesnt get anymore combat points! I tried .. commander only gets commanding points.. no more combat..

noxious89123 wrote:

a C4 TK on a blackhawk would be a good way to get explosive ordanance badge. I think TK dont count coz otherwsie it would be an easy way to ket K : D ratio up, and basically the game would be unplayable with the amount of noobs stabbing you to get their knife badges.

Still wont stop me stabbing the ignorant Medics / support guys that are 1: doing nothing and 2: ignore my requests for their services.

lol, check out my kicks + bans

XD

On rare occasions I have done that. I have stabbed a medic and taken his kit when he wouldn't give me a medic bag, but then I'm a nice enough guy to revive him and give him my assault kit that has no ammo.

You can get chopper kills if you are shooting at the helicopter and damage it enough so they bail and then the chopper explosion kills them a moment after.  It will say CackNBallz1[Blackhawk]helicopterWh0re

oh another question ..

i was playing iron gator and it was 64/64 and with all the names i literally could not see shit ..and it was crazyily irritating and toggling 3d map doesnt turn off names .. so question is ... is there any way to toggle showing names through everything...