You guys really ought to rent a server
It'd be good to spectate.
LMAO
It'd be good to spectate.
LMAO
Last edited by 2-Jagger (2005-12-02 17:10:35)
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To me, this statement simply refutes everything you've had to say about the Battlefield 2: Special Forces arsenal. The AK101 is one of the most superior weapons. Two shots from this six-shooter and you will die. In a comparison with the USMC counterpart, the stopping power is simply unmatched in every capacity. The mere downside is that the AK101's level of precision is only a fair notch above average, whereas the accuracy of the M16A2 outperforms this MEC opposite only slightly.Sud wrote:
Hey tardo the amazing, up until SF, the US and MEC assault/medic rifles were PRACTICALLY IDENTICAL.
This is why I say to keep your opinion to yourself. You don't have a CLUE.
T3h KnieeEEro../Xietsu!!
Hehehehe... Keep going... Your 80% mastery of intermediate English amuses me...Sud wrote:
1. I have been using assault rifles at a more adept level than you
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3. You could have been using it for 5000 hours and it wouldn't make a lick of difference because you are a ticket liability and you do not understand how to use the weapon in such a way that is PROFICIENT and that invalidates ANYTHING you have to say on the subject.
Jax, you should take some medication for those delusions. There is barely anything on your account that you achieve a positive ratio with.
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Ok, I'm going to stop putting you two nincompoops in your place now and defer this thread back to the original poster, such that it doesn't get completely derailed with your nonsensical babblings.
I love it when these guys try to sound really articulate and use words they don't really understand...
I'm not saying I'm perfect... I'm far from it, in fact... But I don't use words I don't understand unless I have to, in which I use a dictionary to check.
Trying to sound sophisticated will quite often make you look like a real idiot... Especially when you're dissing someone else...
Keep it up, Suddy-O... It's hilarious.
I love the SCAR-L/H & MG36. I'm wishing I had unlocked the PKM already so I could whore up the MG36 in regular BF2 since all I really like to play is support...
I don't care for the F2000 as I seem to miss with it a lot - I'd much rather use the G3.
I don't care for the F2000 as I seem to miss with it a lot - I'd much rather use the G3.
the mg36 is awsome, im using it at every chance i get too now.
Yea, you talk funny Sud. periodically preposterous I say I sayKynon wrote:
Hehehehe... Keep going... Your 80% mastery of intermediate English amuses me...Sud wrote:
1. I have been using assault rifles at a more adept level than you
[...]
3. You could have been using it for 5000 hours and it wouldn't make a lick of difference because you are a ticket liability and you do not understand how to use the weapon in such a way that is PROFICIENT and that invalidates ANYTHING you have to say on the subject.
Jax, you should take some medication for those delusions. There is barely anything on your account that you achieve a positive ratio with.
[...]
Ok, I'm going to stop putting you two nincompoops in your place now and defer this thread back to the original poster, such that it doesn't get completely derailed with your nonsensical babblings.
I love it when these guys try to sound really articulate and use words they don't really understand...
I'm not saying I'm perfect... I'm far from it, in fact... But I don't use words I don't understand unless I have to, in which I use a dictionary to check.
Trying to sound sophisticated will quite often make you look like a real idiot... Especially when you're dissing someone else...
Keep it up, Suddy-O... It's hilarious.
this is beyond fair with his opinion, he has stated that he belives the guns are what they are, it dont matter what his kd ratio is or what his score is even, your score and rank mean not alot, u can pad your score, u can be a tank whore or pilot who never sees ground fire, he stated his opinon and i agree with it completely.Sud wrote:
Well dshak, when you can get that 0.57 ratio with assault rifles up to at least 1.00, maybe then you can offer an opinion that's worth reading, eh? You don't understand the intricacies of the weapons until you are at least productive in a game with them.
the topic of this post was the SF unlocks...
Dont worry DSHAK, Sud Just needs a girl to play with his dingaling. Lets forgive him and wish him well.dshak wrote:
wow, look at all those words... none of which I read. for the benefit of the admins, who hate this kind of off topic crap... I will stop posting in this thread now. super sud, the allknowing mega hypocrite, has put me in my place.
Lets all put it in a bubble, and blow it away
Thanks,
The Huka
Just because you fine folks get a ratio in your speech skills akin to your in-game ratios, doesn't mean that I have to lower myself to the complex system of grunts and gential scratchings that you've adopted as a form of communication.
By all means, find all the humor in it that ye wish. If anything, I'll at least be heralded as a comedian of the monkey masses.
By all means, find all the humor in it that ye wish. If anything, I'll at least be heralded as a comedian of the monkey masses.
take it from a player who has used all the wepons to a good extent ....its all prefrence .... they all have good and bad parts. if you think they are superrior then they probably accent your style of play. I think most of them are crap i do like the g36c and the scar-h but that is just my own prefrence.
5ud sounds very much like a trek nerd or something thinking his shit sounds witty or funny or anything other than immature and retarded ...also talking about his "infantry" account while he plays strictly infantry maps and has spent 10 of his 40 hours in a vehicle .... and on his vehicle account he spends 100% of the time as engineer in a tank on karkand only ... lame.. why dont you take your tank and use it in a vehicle map instead of just allways raping infantry with it .. just a thought ..
my scores are all better than yours so i guess now i can talk shit to you about how much smarter and better i am and how your opinion is worthless...
anyhow the scar is alot like the m4 better than the g36c in long distance fights and g36c wins in close and medium
the f2000 is better in long distance fights but the m16 ak101 and g3 are all better in med and close range
the mp7 is way better than the mp5 and pp19 no comparison to an autoshotgun.. faster fire rate more dmg better accuracy
the medic gun is nice but not really significantly better than the m16 but id take it over the m16 for its accuracy but i think m16 and ak101 in med to close seems to do more dmg
barely used the mg36 or w/e but i have noticed its still accurate when firing standing up in close quarters .. been on the recieving end..
my scores are all better than yours so i guess now i can talk shit to you about how much smarter and better i am and how your opinion is worthless...
anyhow the scar is alot like the m4 better than the g36c in long distance fights and g36c wins in close and medium
the f2000 is better in long distance fights but the m16 ak101 and g3 are all better in med and close range
the mp7 is way better than the mp5 and pp19 no comparison to an autoshotgun.. faster fire rate more dmg better accuracy
the medic gun is nice but not really significantly better than the m16 but id take it over the m16 for its accuracy but i think m16 and ak101 in med to close seems to do more dmg
barely used the mg36 or w/e but i have noticed its still accurate when firing standing up in close quarters .. been on the recieving end..
finaly people are back on the subject of SF unlocks, I have heard alot of talk about the SF assult unlock and used it when i picked it up quite a bit but if it didnt have the grenade launcher I think it would be far worse than the G3
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
If you are talking about Strike at Karkand, the USMC on a 32 player map have 1 Tank and 1 APC and the Mec have 1 Tank!!!!! Thats not balanced, I have alittle under 200 hours in SAK and half my time in game is in a tank but the rest im on foot. Im not the best and never said I was the best but with almost 450 hours in game I think I know alittle about it. No I not saying that im better then you I saying that you are talk mostly out your ass and you have fun thinking that you are cream of the crop but in reality you are the creame of the crap.Sud wrote:
1. Tanks and APCs are balanced. Newbs complain about "tank whoring". Pros switch to anti tank and beat the tank back so far he's hiding behind the UAV. Not to mention, the only thing you're able to do with a positive ratio is sniping. At least tanks actually expose themselves to enemy fire instead of cowering away on some mountain or rooftop somewhere with all flanks mined up.
Now for the Sf weapons some are good but some are the same. Anyone can shoot a gun but it takes skill to do it in a manner that helps the team out.
As for the "Noob Tubers" so what let them fire away they payed 50 bucks for there game let them play the way they see fit. If someone wants to "Tank Whore" so what again they paid for the game let them play the way they see fit.
Now on to "Tank Whores" what I see a tank whore is : A player who sits at a spawn and just kills as they are spawning, and not useing that tank/apc to help there team at all. Now I have seen a tank soften up the e so his team can take the flag that to me is great teamwork. Thats what I do all the time and most of the time im on the flag with the tank and I get kill alot doing it.
Say what you will, scream and cry,and moan and groan but in the end if you don't like what someone is doing in a server you have three things you can do. Leave , Stoping play the game or sit there and call names. Its a game good lord people its only a game.
i would agree with you with the 1 tank + 1 apc vs 1 tank is an advantage but the defenders have the upper hand and with just a few engineers, spec ops, and anti tank guarding the front the tanks and apc can never enter the front. problem is with public games people seldom orchestrate such a defense..
Just a note
But the MP7 is for Engineers, not Anti-Tank. So comparing it to the AT weapons is kind of an odd thing to do, I agree with you on your point though. It is better than the MP5 and PP19.the mp7 is way better than the mp5 and pp19 no comparison to an autoshotgun.. faster fire rate more dmg better accuracy
If you check my k/d stats, since unlocking the SCAR, F2000, and G36E it's gone up, which is starting to get pretty difficult at this point considering the amount of k/d I have. I've been averaging probably around 2:1 or 3:1 per round where before I was lucky to get 1:1
As my previous statements said, G36E is god, it's only disadvantage is close range armoured units, but since I'm medic almost all the time I'm hanging back so it's usually non-issue. It's fun dropping medic bags under yourself then sniping with it it's very confusing to snipers that hit your 4 or 5 times with an M24/95 and wonder why you won't go down.
As my previous statements said, G36E is god, it's only disadvantage is close range armoured units, but since I'm medic almost all the time I'm hanging back so it's usually non-issue. It's fun dropping medic bags under yourself then sniping with it it's very confusing to snipers that hit your 4 or 5 times with an M24/95 and wonder why you won't go down.
It is spelled SERGEANT son. When you grow up and have a chance to serve in your nation's armed forces you'll need to spell it correctly as these SERGEANTS will be all over your pimply face trying to make a man out of you.Sud wrote:
That's staff sargeant to you, scrub.
i got no problems with it because i am the one using those guns:DS=Unit92 wrote:
are kidding themselves.
I had a chance to play on my buddies computer yesterday and it's very clear that SF weapons are quite superior to their vanilla counterparts.
The medic gun is argueably the best weapon in the game, very little recoil, excellent against unarmoured infantry (almost always a 1 burst kill), ok against armoured infantry (this is it's one disadvantage), Great at long, medium and short ranges. Medics are now the best lone wolfs in the game, I can drop some medpacks and stand and snipe all day long, or I can pull some ninja shit and wipe out three guys tryign to take a flag before they even knew I was there. I love the G36E and the only disadvantage I could find in the weapon was the armor penetration... but if you're aiming for the face that's non-issue, it takes 2-3 bursts to the chest, 1 to the face. I easily tripled my ratio as medic.
The SpecOps gun is another favorite of mine, it's almost completely silent and when prone if you give about 500ms it NEVER misses, it's always on target. It doesn't have good armour penetration but you don't need it in single fire since they can't hear where the bullet is coming from you can squeeze off the extra necessary round. Full auto it's not bad either, low recoil (not anywhere near the G36's but good enough.)
The Assault unlock is an upgrade in almost everyway too. Noob Toob + Scope + Almost completely Silent rounds (sounds like you have taco shits,) and again it's one failing is armour penetration (are you seeing a trend here.) While the armour penetration is mild, it's still a 1 hit kill with the GL, which appear to load slightly slower than it's GP-30/M203 counterparts but not much. Any disadvantages though is offset by the scope and very quiet firing, it's good at sniping and then if things get hairy you can just switch to GL and noob tube it up.
I didn't get to test the support gun and only breifly used the Engineer MP7, this gun seemed like the only sensable upgrade out of the ones I used, and that's only because the shotguns suck so much except in the occasional CQC and if it had not been for this fact I would say, given to any other class would have been a downgrade, typical of the Engineers getting humped by EA.
I know some of you are going to say "Well I paid to have more skill than you" or something very similar. FPSes are supposed to be a test of quick wits and responses not who managed to pay the most. If I wanted a game that you could get skill for paying I would be playing an MMORPG. Weapon unlocks should provide variety not superiority.
well i cant exactly comapre the mp7 to that cartoon shotgun the jackhammer .....
Yes, you are correct on that. No excuse for that either - an example of poor map design by EA, and a constant reminder to us all why it should be highly insulting that EA and Dice wasted time making an expansion when so much of the original content is flawed.If you are talking about Strike at Karkand, the USMC on a 32 player map have 1 Tank and 1 APC and the Mec have 1 Tank!!!!! Thats not balanced,
I was commenting on the actual vehicles themselves, though, not the deployment of them. Vehicle deployment is very important. It's one of the reason I don't play maps like Kubra Dam.
If talking out of one's ass is possible, I think that this jumbled bit of incoherancy would be a perfect example of it. Can you come back and post when you're not intoxicated please. Or at least when you can get your point across without sounding like I.R. Babboon?No I not saying that im better then you I saying that you are talk mostly out your ass and you have fun thinking that you are cream of the crop but in reality you are the creame of the crap.
Pimply? Can barely remember back that far. My job as it is is to create software. You know, that computery stuff that helps your guy's "Sergeants" keep from accidentally dumping the load of WP on themselves, rather than whatever third world country you've got your sights set on siphoning oil from at the moment.When you grow up and have a chance to serve in your nation's armed forces you'll need to spell it correctly as these SERGEANTS will be all over your pimply face trying to make a man out of you.
My assault rifle with the standard BF guns for medic was 1.23. It's now up to 1.48 and still continuing to climb. And this is with only an hour per day to be able to play due to a faulty internet connection.As my previous statements said, G36E is god, it's only disadvantage is close range armoured units, but since I'm medic almost all the time I'm hanging back so it's usually non-issue. It's fun dropping medic bags under yourself then sniping with it it's very confusing to snipers that hit your 4 or 5 times with an M24/95 and wonder why you won't go down.
Last edited by Sud (2005-12-05 09:35:17)
Still complaining about SF Sud? Didn't you already get at least one thread closed for being too argumentative?
Nice try with the whole, "my kill to death ratio is increasing" argument. My ratio was increasing both before and after the patch. Yeah, now I have more choice of weapons to fit my style, but it doesn't mean the weapon makes the man. I can't wait until the raw stats are worked out on these weapons (the damage and deviation numbers like we have for the rest), so that there can be more than a discussion about how your play quality has improved with the new weapons.
I can take out guys with a PKM from 100-150 m with only 5-10 bullets fired. Does that make the PKM the "best" support gun? I've been killed by the RPK and SAW enough times to tell you that they are quite dealy too.
I know you'll have some smart-ass reply, but maybe, just maybe get some hard numbers on the weapons before calling them upgrades.
Nice try with the whole, "my kill to death ratio is increasing" argument. My ratio was increasing both before and after the patch. Yeah, now I have more choice of weapons to fit my style, but it doesn't mean the weapon makes the man. I can't wait until the raw stats are worked out on these weapons (the damage and deviation numbers like we have for the rest), so that there can be more than a discussion about how your play quality has improved with the new weapons.
I can take out guys with a PKM from 100-150 m with only 5-10 bullets fired. Does that make the PKM the "best" support gun? I've been killed by the RPK and SAW enough times to tell you that they are quite dealy too.
I know you'll have some smart-ass reply, but maybe, just maybe get some hard numbers on the weapons before calling them upgrades.
It never ceases to amaze me that this same argument keeps coming up over and over again. It's as if no one cares to remember anything that was argued in the past. Was it my imagination that this exact same argument has happened for every single unlock in the game? Oh it's too powerful.. oh it's not powerful enough.. oh my stats have increased.. oh it sucks.. oh you suck.. gay.. noob.. etc etc etc. It's making my nauseous.
To all these arguments I say the same thing I said many months ago.
Weapons are not better or worse. They do not make you a better player or a worse player. Different weapons change your play style. Each person's play style is different and hence one weapon may be prefered over another. Each weapon is deadly and can be used more effectively than any other. Every weapon is equally a good weapon or a bad weapon. What separates one over another in any instance is the skill of the PLAYER wielding the weapon with possible exception of the Noob Tube.
Nuff Said.
To all these arguments I say the same thing I said many months ago.
Weapons are not better or worse. They do not make you a better player or a worse player. Different weapons change your play style. Each person's play style is different and hence one weapon may be prefered over another. Each weapon is deadly and can be used more effectively than any other. Every weapon is equally a good weapon or a bad weapon. What separates one over another in any instance is the skill of the PLAYER wielding the weapon with possible exception of the Noob Tube.
Nuff Said.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
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