l41e
Member
+677|7066

Meh, PCs have so much more stuff than the PS3 will ever have, I'm sticking with this.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7064|Nova Scotia

Stags wrote:

Strange considering the PS3 is completely backwards compatible with the previous systems, thus it must be able to play CD-ROMS and DVDS, it can't however play HD-DVDs.
Correct.
But seeing as Microsoft has, at least, hinted that they'll release an external Blue Ray player as well as their HD-DVD player it is conceivable that Sony will release a HD-DVD player.  The fight between the two formats is probably going to be a long one, which is hardly good news for us consumers.
BlackPlague
Banned
+16|6945
Ps3 = Omfgwtfbbqhaxhaxhaxhaxhaxhax!
aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7210

Widjerd wrote:

£549? i think you've been looking at packaged games with the hardware matey.

I wasnt planning to get one before summer 2007 anyway so meh, Besides the only reason europe was selected to be delayed was the fact that europe is sonyland. USA is xbox360 japs are odd and seem to buy quirky pieces of shite (DS, Wii) and europe seems to do PS predominately with xbox behind but not by a massive margin.
The PSP launch is the UK was the fastest ever or something and we had to wait 6 extra months for that, so i dont forsee any problems for sony tbh
how much is it without games?  I can only find it with them
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7064|Nova Scotia

aardfrith wrote:

how much is it without games?  I can only find it with them
Should be about 385GBP.

edit: with the harddrive and whatever other incentives they throw in the 'better' package.  I haven't heard if they've updated that, but they announced they were selling one with a HD and one without, 100 dollars (US) in the difference.

Last edited by Rygar (2006-09-07 03:22:48)

Stags
Member
+26|7074
There are two versions a cheaper one $500 w/ a 20gb HDD and less stuff and the $600 w/ a  60gb HDD (both are serial ATA, 2.5" yes that does matter).

Both versions can support, 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p.  So I don't get these rumors, to use 1080p you do need the HDMI cable, but it can run on those lower resolutions.  Do not bitch that they are not giving you those cables either, they didn't give you the Digital Output cable with the PS2, so why would they give out the HDMI cable when most people can't use it.

And the Disc Drive is Blu-Ray/CD/DVD as I stated earlier.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7064|Nova Scotia

Stags wrote:

There are two versions a cheaper one $500 w/ a 20gb HDD and less stuff and the $600 w/ a  60gb HDD (both are serial ATA, 2.5" yes that does matter).

Both versions can support, 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p.  So I don't get these rumors, to use 1080p you do need the HDMI cable, but it can run on those lower resolutions.  Do not bitch that they are not giving you those cables either, they didn't give you the Digital Output cable with the PS2, so why would they give out the HDMI cable when most people can't use it.

And the Disc Drive is Blu-Ray/CD/DVD as I stated earlier.
They support 480p and all that, good.
Why not bitch that they aren't including the cables?  The 360 comes with them, and the PS2's digital output was almost pointless anyway seeing as a handful of games supported 5.1 sound (cutscenes only) and most games were dolby prologic, and progressive scan wasn't widespread.  Not to mention how low priced these cables are (<--sarcasm).
Most people can use it nowadays, HDTVs aren't expensive as they were, and many sources are promoting the system as 'if you don't have HDTV, you're missing out on the experience'.
diglow~Flow
Member
+32|7044|British Columbia, Canada
PS3 is gonna suck like PS2 i wasnt satisfied with the loading and the graphics w/ PlayStation.. Xbox FTW!
Masta_Daco
Member
+39|7154|Amsterdam,The Netherlands

ToiletTrooper wrote:

Ps3 Sucks Anyway

Pc Owns
and xbox 360
Harmonics
A stabbing fatality
+22|6921
ps3 ftw.
Stags
Member
+26|7074
This is about the release date and what the release comes with (yeah it is a downer there is no cable but since it is so cheap then why even care?)  Yes, I do have an HDTV and I'm loving it.  I'll just buy the cable when I get the PS3 it doesn't bother me that much, actually nothing really bothers me that much.

As far as I can tell, the general consensus is that we don't care that its being launched in Europe later (more time to prefect it/more time to save up the money).  And we are questioning what the PS3 comes with.  Lastly we have people who need to have more thoughtful posts (posting 360FTW means nothing, either explain your reasoning or get lost)  Which brings me to the point, this is about the PS3 and launch date not about the baka-box.
TheDarkRaven
ATG's First Disciple
+263|7042|Birmingham, UK

rustynutz wrote:

Wii FTW
Yeah! Screw you PS3!
Reasons? I'LL GIVE YOU GODDAMN REASONS!

1. Cell processor doesn't even work to full expectancy.
2. In some games, it's graphics are WORSE, yes WORSE, than the 360.
3. Isn't Xbox1.5 graphics GOOD ENOUGH (Wii)?
4. Let me see, for us UK'ers (since this is what it's basically about).

Wii = £150 (approx). + 3 extra controllers and every other necessary accessory = £225. + 6 launch games = £375 - £405. Now, I still have another £144 before I get to PS3 BASIC price. Now tell me, why don't I just buy the Wii? Hell, just to get up to your price, I'll buy a DS Lite and a couple of games for that = £545 TOTAL for ALL that I have mentioned. Hell, if you want these "amazing graphics" go and buy a 360. Sony have screwed up. Oh, and by the way, Blu-Ray wont win the 'HD war', so yet ANOTHER reason why not to buy the PS3.

There is NO SENSE TO BUYING THE PS3 PEOPLE! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE WII (sorry, I couldn't resist )!
Stags
Member
+26|7074
Okay that last line really destroyed all reasoning because it made me laugh so I forgot what you posted.

Then I read it again skipping the last line.  Go ahead, its your opinion and since you actually gave some reasoning (although no facts... like preformance facts, game facts) you deserve that opinion and I will not try to convert you (I don't convert people I just state facts and yes my opinion is biased)

Although there are several points that I want you to explain further, Some games does not mean all games so that point is invalid also because some games on the 360 look worst than they do on my PC and my PC is shit, so it doesn't matter what matters is gameplay (look one of my favorite games is Oni not great graphics but great gameplay).  Also, why won't Blu-Ray win the HD Wars?  Explain, w/o explaination I will not accept that.

I cannot accept opinions that are not backed through thoughtful reasoning. Blank_FTW is not acceptable reasoning, its just stupid, which leads me to believe that you to are stupid and no one wants to be called stupid.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7064|Nova Scotia
Hey Stags, don't bother arguing with the dark raven, he's a mega Nintendo fan (which is fine, he's allowed, but he is quite unwavering and one sided in this aspect).
Personally I think he's supporting the company all by himself (joke ).

And I was being sarcastic when I said the HD cables were cheap, 'cause really, they aren't - they make your 800 dollar system (Canadian dollars here, calm down) a 900 dollar system.
Stags
Member
+26|7074
relative to the ps3 i would say they are cheap, compared to the cost of my textbooks they are extremely cheap :p

Nintendo fans are loyalists
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7064|Nova Scotia
Well compared to the actual system,  yeah they're cheap
Textbooks make most things look cheap too.

My madcatz hi-def pack for my xbox was only 30 dollars and came with component video cables, fibre optic and digital coax cables too.  I'd buy that again just for the cables.
HD and HDMI cables are 70 - 100 cdn at least.
Stags
Member
+26|7074
Yeah. Sad thing is I spent $1000 on textbooks and other required reading materials for college :'(


I'm going to the mall later today so I'm going to check the local prices.  I know I can get them cheaper if I have them sent from home (everything is cheaper when you are farther away from colleges).  But if the price is reasonable.  I don't know, hmm... I guess nothing really bothers me anymore about pricing... like I love saving money but money is money you can always earn more, what bothers me is when they waste my time you can't earn time back.

Note: I just woke up... and really really really want to go back to bed so yeah.

BTW: They haven't announced how many units they'll be shipping to each store have they?  I should check on that.
Rygar
Canucklehead
+69|7064|Nova Scotia
I don't think they've announced it, but with 400k being shipped to North America for release day I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't care too much if I spend a lot of money, but giving it away to Microsoft and Sony is more than a little irritating (like having them say they aren't dropping the price of the 360, so go get one if that's what you're waiting for....then having them drop the price by 50-100 dollars after you get it....it's the principle of the thing).
College destroys your wallet.
Stags
Member
+26|7074
Hmm... I'll have to work around that to get one.   Yes, currently my wallet is so far gone I can't afford to do anything only have $20 left (besides the money I saved for other various reasons and emergeny money)... probably should go out and spend it so I can say I'm broke :p

I don't think Microsoft will reduce price, like you said its the principle of the thing, catering to new buyers instead of the loyalists (because new buyers = greater profit = stockholders happier [usually] = me hating commercialism; which is what it has come down to now... *sighs* )

So right now *twidles thumbs* just waiting for the release now... only thing good about that is I don't care about much else so I concentrate on my HW. lol

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