Protecus
Prophet of Certain Certainties
+28|6911
I'm not sure this actually constitutes as a "scam" in the formal sense, but it is an interesting bit of information.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq … assy_x.htm

80 football fields does seem a bit like overkill for one building...

And the funding actually comes from the State Department, not Homeland Security, but I thought you guys would get a kick out of it
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6916|Portland, OR USA
sounds less like an embassy and more like a military base ... wait
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6980|Your attic

Kmarion wrote:

Towelly wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Our oil companies do not control the cost per barrel of oil. Please research this. They make money on the refining and distribution of oil. OPEC is who you need to talk to with regards to middle eastern oil exports.
True but while they do not control it, they can influence it, if they decide to withhold a few million barrels the price may go up a few cents, they hold back a few billion, well you see what can happen.

My entire family is in the oil trade and we all know enough to get us by, but the worlds oil market is far to complex to even begin to describe, surfice it to say that oil companies have their hands in more than you might imagine, and they have control over alot more than what just the stuff that goes into your cars and into your homes.
If oil companies where in the business of withholding oil I don't think they would be drilling all over the Gulf of Mexico.
You do know that america stores more than 30% of the worlds crude stocks?
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6916|Portland, OR USA

Kmarion wrote:

If oil companies where in the business of withholding oil I don't think they would be drilling all over the Gulf of Mexico.
All about image and control.  The arguement is they can perpetuate the myth that it is scarce while having huge reserves in their control.  This would give huge lattitudes of price and maximize profits and total market influence.

That's something largely at work in the diamond industry.  There are large numbers of diamonds which exist but are kept off the market to maintain price.

I'm not saying I subscribe to the theory that oil isn't scarce, just explaining the logic there.  Personally, I think we need to migrate from oil for any number of reasons anyway.
Darth_Fleder
Mod from the Church of the Painful Truth
+533|7196|Orlando, FL - Age 43

Kmarion wrote:

The oil argument is by far the stupidest. Only people who have zero comprehension of how the oil market works states something as idiotic as that. If it was about oil why did we leave after the first gulf war ? Do you have any idea who dictates the price of oil?
...
QFE
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6990|132 and Bush

Ultimately OPEC controls the price via price per barrel.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
dstock9
Member
+13|6994

Kmarion wrote:

The oil argument is by far the stupidest. Only people who have zero comprehension of how the oil market works states something as idiotic as that. If it was about oil why did we leave after the first gulf war ? Do you have any idea who dictates the price of oil?
The rest of the stuff I'll listen to.
This forum seems to be getting smarter all the time

ATG wrote:

I'm leaning towards accepting Marconius's call for civil war.
I'd enlist. Or apply for OTS, at least.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6918|Global Command

PuckMercury wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

If oil companies where in the business of withholding oil I don't think they would be drilling all over the Gulf of Mexico.
All about image and control.  The arguement is they can perpetuate the myth that it is scarce while having huge reserves in their control.  This would give huge lattitudes of price and maximize profits and total market influence.

That's something largely at work in the diamond industry.  There are large numbers of diamonds which exist but are kept off the market to maintain price.

I'm not saying I subscribe to the theory that oil isn't scarce, just explaining the logic there.  Personally, I think we need to migrate from oil for any number of reasons anyway.
Ah Pucky, I'm glad your back!
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|6916|Portland, OR USA
I get in a few good ones from time to time.  Glad to be appreciated.  ;-)
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|7014|Home of the Escalade Herds

ATG wrote:

270 Billion have been spent on Homeland Security and the illegal aliens still flood across our border.  http://nationalpriorities.org/
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1104/111004a1.htm


Where is the accountability for all this money.
Who is getting rich.
Where is my rope and a strong tree so we can hang these fuckers that are ruining this nation.
Very good question. It's easy to see where the 300bil in Iraq are going, ammunition, fuel for vehicles, all the logistics are very expensive.

Where the hell is this 270bil for homeland security going?
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6930|Omaha, Nebraska!

ATG wrote:

So far 300+ Billion have been spent in Iraq on this war, which I still argue was the right thing, just not fought aggressively enough. http://costofwar.com/numbers.html

270 Billion have been spent on Homeland Security and the illegal aliens still flood across our border.  http://nationalpriorities.org/
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1104/111004a1.htm


Where is the accountability for all this money.
Who is getting rich.
Where is my rope and a strong tree so we can hang these fuckers that are ruining this nation.


Please refrain from spewing conspriacy nonsense about 9-11
What i want to know is, where is it going, and why so much.
If you're blaming Bush here is a news flash ; Clinton sucked ex. the unemployment rate was at 5.5 in the 90s and the media says "Oh the unemployment rate was great!", now Bush is president with a 4 something unemployment and here is what they say "The unemployment rate is bad and we need to fix it." Notice you people, the media brainwashes people.
dstock9
Member
+13|6994

PRiMACORD wrote:

ATG wrote:

270 Billion have been spent on Homeland Security and the illegal aliens still flood across our border.  http://nationalpriorities.org/
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1104/111004a1.htm


Where is the accountability for all this money.
Who is getting rich.
Where is my rope and a strong tree so we can hang these fuckers that are ruining this nation.
Very good question. It's easy to see where the 300bil in Iraq are going, ammunition, fuel for vehicles, all the logistics are very expensive.

Where the hell is this 270bil for homeland security going?
Imagine what kind of wall we could build between the US and Mexico with 270 billion.
Chou
Member
+737|7180
While Ground Zero is still without any progress nor memorial statue, Bush, you are the man !
Oh and when am I going to pay a normal fucking price for my gas again?
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7017|space command ur anus

N.A.T.O wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Oh but remember we wen't in to get rich off oil..lol
$3.30.99 premium
$3.20.99 super       $3.29.99 Diesel
$3.10.99 regular
hmm cheap
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7017|space command ur anus

Choumichel wrote:

While Ground Zero is still without any progress nor memorial statue, Bush, you are the man !
Oh and when am I going to pay a normal fucking price for my gas again?
NEVER the price of gasoline is going to remain high, imagine 1 billion chinese people driving hummers
Chou
Member
+737|7180

herrr_smity wrote:

Choumichel wrote:

While Ground Zero is still without any progress nor memorial statue, Bush, you are the man !
Oh and when am I going to pay a normal fucking price for my gas again?
NEVER the price of gasoline is going to remain high, imagine 1 billion chinese people driving hummers
I don't live in China, so..
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6918|Global Command

SoC./Omega wrote:

ATG wrote:

So far 300+ Billion have been spent in Iraq on this war, which I still argue was the right thing, just not fought aggressively enough. http://costofwar.com/numbers.html

270 Billion have been spent on Homeland Security and the illegal aliens still flood across our border.  http://nationalpriorities.org/
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1104/111004a1.htm


Where is the accountability for all this money.
Who is getting rich.
Where is my rope and a strong tree so we can hang these fuckers that are ruining this nation.


Please refrain from spewing conspriacy nonsense about 9-11
What i want to know is, where is it going, and why so much.
If you're blaming Bush here is a news flash ; Clinton sucked ex. the unemployment rate was at 5.5 in the 90s and the media says "Oh the unemployment rate was great!", now Bush is president with a 4 something unemployment and here is what they say "The unemployment rate is bad and we need to fix it." Notice you people, the media brainwashes people.
I can tell you don't know me so I'll explain;
I voted for bush twice. I am a loyal supporter of the U.S. military. I run a small business and have seen with me own eyes grotesge scams, payoffs and kick back schemes. Money laundering by government employees evidenced by cash payments for everything they buy.
     I wanted the police officers and FBI agents in the Waco debacle shot. I think we should build a fence along the Mexican border and resurect the Sedition Act.
     Clinton was a disgrace to America and a sorry ass excuse for a Commander in Chief.

     Bush has outspent all but the wildest fantasies of the most extreme social liberals. He has made a poor case that Iraq  was the right thing to do and we are the big cat on the block simply by tollerating Irans interference. I think the lack of border security rises to a crime level worthy of capital punishment. 

     I found our Jets being used in Kosovo to kill civilians with U.N. flags painted on was also a very serious offense.
     I'm honestly asking everybody to whom shall I direct this anger?

     It's much bigger than Bush its a culture of corruption.
     I couldn't have voted for Kerry, a posistionally challenged war protester during a time of war? pfft.
     I actually liked Clinton until Waco and Kosovo and China and Monica and lying under oath, and Somolia and Hillary being considered a legitimate candidate for president.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|7017|space command ur anus

Choumichel wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

Choumichel wrote:

While Ground Zero is still without any progress nor memorial statue, Bush, you are the man !
Oh and when am I going to pay a normal fucking price for my gas again?
NEVER the price of gasoline is going to remain high, imagine 1 billion chinese people driving hummers
I don't live in China, so..
well if demand goes up then the price will go up
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6918|Global Command
Today 14:52:15 +1 The biggest scam of all time were you born stupid or are you just a dumb fucking rasict? 


Today 11:21:24 +1 The biggest scam of all time because you are a tool 


I just find annonymous karma messages so pleasing.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7147|Argentina

ATG wrote:

So far 300+ Billion have been spent in Iraq on this war, which I still argue was the right thing, just not fought aggressively enough. http://costofwar.com/numbers.html

270 Billion have been spent on Homeland Security and the illegal aliens still flood across our border.  http://nationalpriorities.org/
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1104/111004a1.htm


Where is the accountability for all this money.
Who is getting rich.
Where is my rope and a strong tree so we can hang these fuckers that are ruining this nation.


Please refrain from spewing conspriacy nonsense about 9-11
What i want to know is, where is it going, and why so much.
You need three ropes and one tree to hang Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld, the other scum will run under the stones when these assholes are banned.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7147|Argentina

ATG wrote:

Today 14:52:15 +1 The biggest scam of all time were you born stupid or are you just a dumb fucking rasict? 


Today 11:21:24 +1 The biggest scam of all time because you are a tool 


I just find annonymous karma messages so pleasing.
Make another thread so you earn enough to get to 500.  In this one I'm with you.  They are fucking with your country, they deserve C4 in the ass.
dstock9
Member
+13|6994

sergeriver wrote:

the other scum will run under the stones when these assholes are banned.

sergeriver wrote:

They deserve c4 in the ass
Ha, someone needs to lay off the bf2 a bit...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6990|132 and Bush

herrr_smity wrote:

Choumichel wrote:

While Ground Zero is still without any progress nor memorial statue, Bush, you are the man !
Oh and when am I going to pay a normal fucking price for my gas again?
NEVER the price of gasoline is going to remain high, imagine 1 billion chinese people driving hummers
Once again someone who has no idea how the price of gas is dictated. Price increases generally occur when the world crude-oil market tightens and lowers inventories. Usually due to OPEC's control.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-09-12 23:25:33)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7147|Argentina

dstock9 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

the other scum will run under the stones when these assholes are banned.

sergeriver wrote:

They deserve c4 in the ass
Ha, someone needs to lay off the bf2 a bit...
Uh, Enemy boat spotted.
Jepeto87
Member
+38|7074|Dublin

Kmarion wrote:

herrr_smity wrote:

Choumichel wrote:

While Ground Zero is still without any progress nor memorial statue, Bush, you are the man !
Oh and when am I going to pay a normal fucking price for my gas again?
NEVER the price of gasoline is going to remain high, imagine 1 billion chinese people driving hummers
Once again someone who has no idea how the price of gas is dictated. Price increases generally occur when the world crude-oil market tightens and lowers inventories. Usually due to OPEC's control.
Em my family are'nt in the oil business like yours but im pretty sure OPEC has lost its ability to dictate prices like it could in the 70's. Im also aware that OPEC is incapable of decreasing oil prices as its reached its production per day capacity, if it could it would lower prices(definitely in the short term) to show how powerful and organization it is.  Its simply too much demand in this crazy little world we live in

As for the figure mentioned by the original poster id agree that its a disgrace and someone should be held accountable for it, but civil servants always seem incapable of punishment where ever you are! Maybe you need some random firing squads to whip every one into shape.

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