M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7003|Peoria, Illinois
I can't believe I've actually reached a 1000 TKs. I feel dirty now. Kind of like the 1000th soldier death in Iraq where the media anticipated for the day they could report it as if it were the stock market hitting 10,000 points for the first time. I, however, have been dreading this. Recently I noticed it was fast approaching. I actually tried my hardest to avoid this milestone, but to no avail. I earned my 100th TK while trying to get my expert knife badge. Yeah, I know,WTF.

I was on my 7th or 8th straight round on Karkand in my quest for the expert knife badge. I fell 1 or 2 short in each previous attempt, so it was mind numbing when I reached my final attempt. I found a sniper hiding behind the broken down armor, down the road from the hotel. "Easy as pie" I thought. I came around the west side of the fence, ran at full speed, and dived right on him, giving him the slice of his life. I just became the victim, yet again, of the glorious red tag bug.

I would venture to guess that out of 1000 TKs, a good portion of them were for ridiculously bad coding such as the red tag bug, maybe a third. Also included in that third are the infamous AA that seems to track friendly helicopters 800 meters away but can't shoot down an enemy chopper 80 meters away. Also would be the pre-1.03 1 Mph roadkill of a teammate hopping in your humvee and the C4 remote that seemed to want to drop another C4 pack near you and your teammates rather than detonate the first one. There's also the lovely lag that makes my jet an instant lawn dart. And then there's the code that loves to give me all the blackhawk TKs when I get shot out of the pilot's seat and the chopper crashes or is destroyed.

Then there's that one time when I TV missiled a friendly blackhawk when I was MEC because some of my teammates stole the enemy chopper, the friendly tag didn't show up until the last second, and the Havoc wouldn't let me redirect the missile after I fired it. It seems that the friendly tags don't want ot show up at a distance. That's great for weapons like the TV missile that move at about 1500 MPH.

I'd guarantee that AT LEAST another third of my TKs were from idiots and smacktards. Those never seem to grow less disparate. Let's see, there's the runway suicide who wants the jet more than me, the bird that thinks he can fly on top of the chopper rotors, the humvee driver that likes to play chicken with tanks, the Tiananmen square tank protestors, the chopper rammers, the Nascar engy mine collectors, and the pre-1.03 "arty is snowflakes and I wanna be commander" smacktards. We also have the support guy who badly wants to give that sniper some ammo who's surrounded by claymores and of course the medic who'll die by your claymore just to get a healing point.

And on to my fault, a third from my own negligence. Yeah, I screwed up and deserved every punish. Grenades in crowds, C4ing a tank when another spec ops is putting his on after me, shooting over someone's shoulder, laying claymores down in traffic areas, dropping bombs on a tank when a friendly wants to C4 it instead, itchy trigger finger, and of course the intentional ones when I'm waiting for a chopper or plane to spawn and someone else comes along wanting to play the 'E' spamming game with me. Yeah, I'm guilty of some intentional TKs, but only if I was there first and no one is sharing. There was also a couple of times I TKed a medic because they refused to heal me but I'm always nice enough to revive them and give them my crappy kit.

I really wish the stats would break down on TKs so we could see exactly what all of our TKs were from. Also it would be nice if the Tks would register in game the weapon used to Tk. If I were flying a BH over the Chinese airfield on Wake and was hit by the Essex I would know it was BS coding rather than a jet not paying attention.

Well, anyway, I've missed out on a lot of teamwork points. Now on to my next milestone of 2000 TKs. See you on the playing field and hopefully I'm not TKing you out there.
nating75
Member
+0|7048
I know you've played a long time and all. But 24 to 1 is a pretty high TK ratio. Mine is 40 to 1 (granted I'm not a pilot). Maybe I'm just being too hard, I really can't talk until I reach 24,000 kills but anyways.

What's an acceptable kill to TK ratio?

20:1, 30:1, 50:1...

And when does a player become a problem, (I don't believe M1-Lightning is a problem by any means) but at what point does a person become so negligent that they should be shot on sight?

Last edited by nating75 (2005-12-05 14:20:13)

M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|7003|Peoria, Illinois
That's one reason I'd like to see a TK stats breakdown. Then we could see what percentage were from runway kills, AA, etc, and what percentage were from grenades, rifles, etc.  You know the negligence and intentional TKs come form small arms and jet bombs, while accidents come from road kills and AA, (well the majority at least). I'd like to see my ratio with these stats. I'm sure it would be a rough 75:1 ratio of negligent TKs to kills if you filter out the crap. For instance, you know it's near impossible to TK a guy with the sniper rifle by accident. You get a team damage message before you get a second shot (unless it's head shots)

But i'm sure if you could see someone with like 500 sniper TKs then you'd know those are the guys TKing pilots for the jet or chopper. I've never been banned because I've never been a problem to anyone unless they were the problem first. I always comply with server rules. It's just unfortunate the TK problem this game creates. I have a lot more fun on servers that have FF off. I never get TKs on those, even for negligence, and it's a better experience for all when no one is TKing anyone.
nating75
Member
+0|7048
I totally agree with accidental TKs. My TK ratio would be much higher as well. I've only intentionally TK'd when some asshat is running around TKing our own team. Although, I usually just let the baby standing in front of a vehicle have it, I can have fun even if I'm not sporting a tank. I don't like waisting my time fighting teammates for crap.

All I'm asking is at what point does one become negligent even considering accidental TK's? (Again I don't think you're negligent) Everyone is going to reach 1,000 TKs. It's like turning 30.

10:1, 5:1

I would like to hear other people's ideas on this.

Last edited by nating75 (2005-12-05 16:23:37)

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