BF2S Forums "Competancy" requirement for the use of vehicles

As Ridir stated, it would put new players at a disadvantage. What then would be the incentive for anyone to take up the game if they can't get in vehicles? Also, as Ridir stated it would be complex to and difficult to implement. Trying to do so would only invite the possibility of more bugs?

Besides - so what if your team loses? It's a game. It doesn't affect your score any unles you are missing out on tank whoring. The only thing where it would apply is earning the War College Ribbon.

Personally, I would rather see a system where the winning team gets a bonus or some other incentive for winning a round. That, in my opinion, would insire greater teamwork than this inane idea. Currently, it is more advantageous to have a round come down to the wire so that you earn the most points and get the most kills rather than dominating the other team and driving them off the map.

My idea curtails the behavior and modifies it such that someone who is a waste in a resource is off doing something more productive (or at least helping to minimize the damage they're doing to the team).

Or they are TKing the vehicle they got bumped from..
It's a game. People pay the same amount you do to play. If you want the game to run the way you suggested, make your own. You could always run your own ranked server, and then you could incorporate your huge list of server restrictions as well. I do hope you enjoy playing by yourself though.

Psycho's idea makes more sense, as it gives people more of a reason to WANT to cooperate. If someone gets bumped from a vehicle, they are going to get pissed off and want it back. So instead of doing something else, they now TK to get it back. With Psycho's system, people are encouraged to work together to win the map, instead of run around TKing each other to get the vehicle they lost back.

It's also funny how anyone who says something contrary to you is always put down by their stats. Please, do the same to me. Point out my "ineptitude" with the various kits and weapons.

Last edited by Leonnoe1 (2005-12-04 12:47:43)

Cant count how many times I've been Commander on Kark.,only to see APC's and Tanks sit idle until the enemy gets them to use against us at the gas station and other areas.Also seen plenty of armor whoring,but a competancy/ability ranking would only foster continued whoring by the so called "competent".

Sud, the system you are talking about already exists in some tournament style theater war areas. One such area is this:  http://www.bf2combat.net/

In this they have people qualify for vehicle piloting. They have a ranking structure and they have high expectations for people who want to play in special roles like Rangers, Snipers and Pilots.

While your idea is very nice and I agree with the spirit of it, I believe that implementation of it in the normal ranked server element is vastly underestimated. Using stats as a determining factor while for the most part will allowed skilled players to pilot vehicles it will also allow those that abuse those vehicles make certain they can continue to abuse those vehicles. On a public ranked server this goes against the spirit of the game which allows everyone to experience it regardless of stats or rank. The only exception of course is the Commander vote position.

Also it does not take into account good players who act in strategic ways that are not necessarily condusive to mega stats. Often those on defense at flag points must wait for quite some time for someone to show up. When they do the odd of them killing them is purely based on skill and ambush. Also add that if you are on defense and often alone doing this, you may be attacked by overwhelming forces and not be able to kill anyone. This hurts your stats but from a strategic value point of view the defensive person guarding a flag point is more useful, in my mind, than the mindless point farmer and mass killer on the front lines who cares nothing for the team and is only out to get better stats.

While I understand the spirit of what you are saying and I applaud you for wanting to improve the game for everyone who wants to win, there are flaws that can not easily or ever be fixed on a public server.

This is why private servers exist. Like the tournament theater war website I pointed out above, they have a strict ranking system and skill system. They have honest admins that will enforce these rules. These places are controled environments that enforce a mature and military like protocol.

If you really want to experience what you are talking about, and if you have a computer that can handle 64 player maps, then I would suggest seeking one of these special programs out and giving it a go for a bit. I personally would already be involved in bf2combat if I had a computer that could handle a 64 player map. However I don't so.. that option is closed to me for now.

Good luck!

Your ratio should improve with the SF guns. Should probably be enough to get you to 1:1 with assault rifles. Since I've been using the G36C on the medic account, the rifle ratio has climbed from 1.23 to 1.48 rapidly, and still going up - it should settle somewhere around 1.7-1.8ish.

The originator of this thread is a loopey bore! Nothing less and certainly not more.

Competency to play a game (vehicle-mode) - what a lame idea.

How about competency to play at all. We all need better players on “our” side. (Blitho-Bing! It’s sarcasm!).
(This sounds like that Swedish golfing idea!)

But as far as rules go, non-game-itself thus non-EA . . . He who owns the server can make-up any rules he wants! So suds-for-brains, buy (or rent) a server and make-up all the rules you want.