BF2S Forums Why does USA seem to care less about Afghanistan than Iraq?

Cause Afghanistan has only drugs and Iraq has oil.
It´s a pity that good old W loves oil more than durgs

Iraq is more active = more coverage = greater awareness.

Actually the level of fighting is far greater in Afghanistan than In Iraq.  The American's were smart they knew fine well that a far greater resistance would come from the Afghans than the Iraqi's, so they got their men out quick fucking sharp before the body bags started coming home in numbers and left it to the British/Canadians to pick up the pieces..  Simple fact of the matter is pro democracy leader Ahmed Shah Massood could of delivered Democracy without western military intervention in Afghanistan, and, also would of caught Osama Bin Laden. Yet  the Americans refused to support him - even though he traveled to Washington, only to be insulted; and he was murdered very conveniently by the Taliban 2 days before 9/11 happened on his return to the country..

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-09-13 07:40:19)

Simonym wrote:

Cause Afghanistan has only drugs and Iraq has oil.
It´s a pity that good old W loves oil more than durgs

You haven't read all the gossip about our prezs early years have you?? haha

Well the real reason we care more about Iraq then Afghanistan, is Drum roll please......

We already have a pro american government in Afghanistan and in Iraq we're having a problem getting a pro american government in place.. It's pretty much that simple from where I'm sitting.

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jsnipy wrote:

When you say USA do you mean "USA the goverment" or "USA the media"?

I mean 'USA the government'. The troops they threw at the task in the first place paled into insignificance against those thrown at Iraq, and Afghanistan is as large if not bigger.

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IG-Calibre wrote:

Actually the level of fighting is far greater in Afghanistan than In Iraq.  The American's were smart they knew fine well that a far greater resistance would come from the Afghans than the Iraqi's, so they got their men out quick fucking sharp before the body bags started coming home in numbers and left it to the British/Canadians to pick up the pieces..

Thats halariously retarded and false. America never left Afghanistan and since the begining to today America consists of more than 90% of the troops on the ground. NATO's involvement was extremely minor in comparison. Even Pakistan and the Northern Alliance dwarf NATO's contribution. Also while the level of resistance has picked up lately its nowhere near the level of Iraq.

Its all due to the fact that the Taliban were weak and puny compared to Sadaam the Baathist's and the Republican guard. We applied the proper force needed in Afghanistan to topple the Taliban. If the question is not enough effort to find Osama thats a different topic. If you argue that its becuase of Iraq's oil then youre a dumbass becuase American companies like Halliburton have much more invested in pipelines in Afghanistan than anything energy related in Iraq.

Courtesy of the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5341654.stm

Besides a more interesting question is why didn't the American Government support   Ahmed Shah Massood ? Surly democracy in the region & capture of Bin Laden without any military intervention would of been the best possible out come? no?

edit: and you're right "The American's were smart they knew fine well that a far greater resistance would come from the Afghans than the Iraqi's, so they got their men out quick fucking sharp before the body bags started coming home in numbers " was a pretty retarded thing for me to say, I with draw it..

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I just watched Anderson Cooper live in Afghanistan last night. There are lots of Americans on the ground in Afghanistan.

We "seem" to care less because Afghanistan is a shithole and Iraq is/was an actual country.

IG-Calibre wrote:

Again i'll reiterate, the US is supplying Air support, while the Ground is being Held by the British/Canadians..

There are SF and air controller guys all over the place directing that air support.

Afganistan; more remote and the fact is the Taliban guys are being butchered there. They mass in formations and are just slaughtered by our air and mortars. They don't learn from their mistakes. I read that one Canadian team has taken out 1500 Taliban in the last two weeks, mostly by calling in airstrikes. Pakistan army does nothing more than shelter Bin Laden.

Iraq; square in the heart of the Middle East we are going to establish and support free elections. The terrorist were surprised by our invansion of Iraq, and terrified of the prospects of us winning the battle for a regime change that would allow the freedom of the people. It was a raise of stakes they had not counted on after 9-11. They expected us to go to Afganistan and had the laughable idea that they would beat us, like they beat the Russians.
     Freedom always blossoms once planted.  As the Russians proved before their collapse as a "super-power" you can't give the people just a little freedom and expect them to live under tyranny. The numbers of cell phone, internet users as doubled sinse the war  and the number of independant newspapers has increased by 4 times in Iraq. We are giving them a taste of freedom and the purple stained fingers proved they like it.
     This is a bigger threat to radical Islamofacisism than our missles and bombsand Al Queda knows it, thats why they have tried so hard to stop us. Most of the world refuses to admit that a free part of the middle east may have the entire region demanding the same.
     We picked Iraq because it is next to Iran, Syria etc., trouble makers and problemed peoples all, and there was U.N. sanctions in need of enforcement that gave us a LEGAL justification for the war. The people of Iran, should they see a free and happy Iraq, will overthrow the goat fucking radicals and demand their own freedom. http://www.ahwaz.org.uk/2006/03/execute … ng-by.html
     Thats why you'll always here me defend the CONCEPT behind our invasion. Now as for the execution and leadership, I have many complaints.

What give you the impression that we care less about about one than the other? Troup numbers?  We had world backing in Afganistan which meant we were had a larger pool of countries ptiching in.  Even the UN is involved.  However, we had much less support in Iraq and a larger regime to over throw.  Of course we are going to hand over more resposibility in Afganistan to support a larger offensive and rebuilding effort in Iraq.  We are not abandoning Afganistan, we are just allowing other nations to step up where they are needed and wanted.  I would have to argue that it is much easier from a Military perspective to fight an organized army (taliban) than it is to defuse sectarian violence (Iraq).  I looks like we took the harder of the 2 options.

OIL....OIL....OIL thats all america cares about these days