Takedazor
Member
+10|7235|Vila Real, Portugal
Hi everyone i'm just getting a little frustrated here i've been playing battlefied2 for over an year, and over this time tried to be good in every veichle and on foot.

In the past 3months or so i bought a joystick and over some hundred hours of pratice became somewhat good that sometimes i can get like 5rounds without dying and with kill scores like 30-0 to 60-0.

As my skills improve i realised that i get more and more often kicked, banned, called names, accused of cheating, breaking server rules when i didn't and the list goes forever.

Basically people that can't shoot me down just start getting ways to ban me from the server and if those people are admins it just takes one slip like firing a rocket near uncap on a plane over it rocket looses lock goes for an takeoff chopper and boom my ass is kicked or banned.

Ok but it can get worse like one time in BambooComandos server i was in oposite team from bamboo members like LtRaven, i was in bomber scoring kills like 20-0 taking out their bomber, tanks etc, LtRaven was in fighter on other team and came behind me a couple of times so a loop a bit and sometimes loose control but regain it, i think he died 1or2 times because lost control behind me and got of the map so i get kicked 1time and then a 2nd time so i ask why the kicks and LtRaven replys that he kicked me because when he got behind me i went to space so i gess he prefered that i went in the direction of is missils.

Can admin abuse get any worse than this? Well it can... You can just be banned like me for just no reason at all, go to the clanforum ask for a reason, some admins reply to the forum they will check that out and later the topic is closed and the ban remains this appened on the OBC UK server.

I've even got servers making up rules by the minute because of me and my friend did stuff that they later realised affected their team in a negative way, rules like don't steal veichles on uncap after they realised no airplanes in their runnway lol.

It goes on and on and i calculate that in about 1-2months i wont have a decent server to play on and this is bullshit.
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|7003|Doncaster, UK
Kudos to you. I can't fly for shit but when I'm getting my ass handed to me by a good pilot, whilst frustrating I still recognise the skill and just accept it.

I'm somewhat surprised this has happened on the OBC server as I've spent many hours there and never had a problem with anybody. They're generally a reasonable bunch.
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6980|Little blue planet, milky way
Two simple fixes:

1) Either stop playing with the airplane, you already HAVE your expert aviator and no less than TWO aviator medals, or simply play for a while and get shot down, then spawn doing something else....

This has the added advantage of not only allowing others more time in the planes (thus eventually giving you BETTER opponents, allowing you to get more of a challenge when flying), but also means that you spend more time improoving skills BEYOND the airplanes.

2) Start playing "unpoliced" pub servers... Though this will get old REAL fast as people on these servers often BLATANTLY cheat exactly BECAUSE there's no admins....

Personally, I'd go for #1 if I were you.. but then again, I'm a ground pounder, so "doing something else" is pretty darned hard because the hardware is so often taken by people like you

But yeah... Beign good means getting kicked a lot... Even banned once in a while... It sucks, but that's the way it is. People who are EXCEEDINGLY better than others at something will frequently be seen as cheating, because usually they are (look at sports for a good recent example). So wheater or not YOU'RE cheating is besides the point. Totally owning people will put a lot of bad blood between you and other people....
Slickfish
Member
+24|7080
I can see your point but if your on a server and someone comes on and is very very very good yeah its good for them but it can retract from the fun for other, getting owned.
I havent every kicked anyone from our server for being alot better at the game than me mainly because I'd have to kick about everyone.
But if you are chipping on 60-0 on round after round it would get annoying to the point I'd leave the server, and so would other people, perhaps it would work for you if you played afew rounds then moved server.
Why should you have to? fare point, but why should someone pay for a server for another player to annoy them?.
GotMex?
$623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt
+193|7219

Valid points... but I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for plane whores.
Takedazor
Member
+10|7235|Vila Real, Portugal
Thank you all for your replys and i apreciate the simpaty and not all flaming around calling me planewhore like Gotmex?, man i got more hours in helli than plane so maybe you better call me helli whore it's more correct .

It's sad that people don't see dying in the game as a learning experience that's what i do in the game, when i die i figure out why i did and try next time not to get toasted, sometimes it can't be avoided but many times it can even if you can't figure it out.

Only really good server i came out with was Lethal Force, members don't get angry because i shoot them down and fight back so they shoot me down too sometimes, one of their members even one time said he liked playing agaist me because he always learned something with it.

So basically servers that kick people who are just too good will end up with low-medium skill people there and the range for improving will be smaller.

I say this cause a learned a few things with the best i played agaist some of the top10 in airplane, i even remenber playing agaist the n1 at the time and after sometime shooting him down systematicly having him leaving the server, it can be also fun to play agaist the best if you can take a few deaths and try to learn with them that's how i got to the place i am in terms of skill, not one of the best but i can fall right behind them.
Robus
Member
+1|6934
Dude, I think you should seek servers with adversaries equally skilled to ya. I mean, it seems like you're acting like an 18 year old playing soccer with 8 years-olds. Now what fun is that, winning each match with 60-0? As long as you take pleasure i doing so, you will meet resistance on any server. I am not surprised with the reactions you got so far. It is loneley at the top dude. Keep up the good skills though....

greetz
Robus
zer0fus10n
Member
+14|6968
Well if your not a cheater then stick at it, there only pissed of because your better then them and they cant handle it if theres ways to take jets down and keep them down sit on every AA on the map for example wake theres about 5 AA's if there was someone on every AA you wouldnt be able to get back for repairs or w.e on us the other hand both the AA's on the carrier are quite powerfull
THE RUSKIE
Member
+19|6900|UK but from Russia(StP)
Lol dont worry about it, its just these envious bastards that are noobs and will go to hell soon, as envy is one of the deadliest sins.
loonitic
...is a potty mouth
+286|6991|Valhalla
I know how you feel the amount of times people called me a cheat base/spawn raper when im flying a jet is shocking! I've been kicked loads for flying aswell but hey there are loads of others to play on so i just get on with it ...
BEE_Grim_Reaper
Member
+15|7163|Germany
Hmmm.... strange thing is... I never get called a cheater or hacker or something like that... ok... I do not go by helo or jet too often. Only lately I get some time in it (to practice). I remember being called a n00b last time... well... it wasn't too hard because I was co-pilot in a bomber on Taraba Quarry and my pilot and me virtually raped the enemies AA and tanks with guided missiles and bombs if something was left standing.

But when it comes to tank battles (I prefer the long range standoffs on Operation Smoke Screen and Operation Harvest) or to sniping (I just love improving headshot-skills on targets just barely within visibility range)... nope... no complaints by my targets... just a grudge that leads inevitably to Arty Strikes on my head (with noone else from my team within a radius of 100m)...

Speaking of servers... I prefer "policed servers"... but it is really hard to find a server with good admins... I finally found one, that does not only run maps not being run in general (no Karkand on that server), has strict rules (violate them, you get one warning after that you go for a minute) and admins who do not only enforce these rules but also adhere to it... no kicking because you owned an admin...
GotMex?
$623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt
+193|7219

Takedazor wrote:

Thank you all for your replys and i apreciate the simpaty and not all flaming around calling me planewhore like Gotmex?, man i got more hours in helli than plane so maybe you better call me helli whore it's more correct .
Lol, you have like 10 more minutes in the chopper than on the planes. Aircraft whore!

But seriously, the only reason I don't feel any pity is because, like you say, you are getting 5 rounds of 50-0 rounds. Basically you've gotten to the point where no one can touch you in the air due to the imbalance of aircraft/AA in BF2. To me this seems a bit unfair and don't particularly enjoy getting plane raped the whole round and not being able to kill them one damn time. This is not because of my lack of skill, or you being amazingly skilled, but rather because of bad coding on DICE's behalf.

So to sum up, yea it's unfair you get banned and kicked for retarded things. I get them sometimes too and it makes me want to shove a stick up the admin's ass. But it's also unfair to be left defenseless to planes and there's not much we can do is there, except bitch, whine, cry, insult, and annoy.

Last edited by GotMex? (2006-09-15 05:57:45)

[L4WD] thealmightygnome
Member
+3|6937|A Cardboard Box, 29a
I have been kicked so may times for "cheating", sometimes known as being a good helicopter pilot, or throwing a grenade (1 grenade= grenade spamming= kickable offence!) at a grumpy 5 year old admin.
Pope86
Member
+1|6879
There are things i agree with gotmex? and some things i agree with others with. I do think it is very unfair whenever I spawn and all aircrafts are taken and as soon as they blow up the person who was piloting last runs to where it spawns, knows exactly where to lay and hops in it as soon as it's back. Also whenever the opposing team just flys in U shapes back and forth raping our carrier to where we can't even get in an aircraft. I mean i have to say i'm not too shabby in a helo(suck at planes) and i have to say its not hard to get uber kill counts in a helo, let alone a jet. but once i feel i have enough kills and feel happy i hop out and give it to someone else or get blown up.

But i also know somewhat of where your coming from from being kicked for no reason. Example: i owned an admin and his team mate when the odds where against me. few seconds later KICKED, i had the second highest score in that match too, i was pretty pissed.
{TL}SHARPSHOOTER
Vacuum Sealed for Freshness
+26|7201|The Island of Carls Jr.
First of all, what the most powerful weapon if BF2? A jet. Why? Because it has the most powerful bombs, guns, and rockets/missiles. It can deal with ANYTHING from people, vehicles, and emplacements. If you get good at using aircraft people get pissed, like a hand of God is just ready to kill them whenever.
LordBeer
Member
+1|7084|ChicagoLand
While I think kicking someone for being skilled is wrong, I understand where it comes from.

I suggest you try to groundpound for a bit and see just how much fun the game is when there is a jet pilot that can rape you proper. 

I see you're point about learning things in game, but a majority of players want to have fun.  Being killed 10x in a row with no chance of responding is not fun.  Doing that to a team multiple times will just make things worse.  You should have seen the kick comming.   

84% of all your kills are from vehicles.  Get in some shape and run around a little bit and/or find a server with decent admins that wont kick you for wrecking them.
Korpen
Member
+6|6876
Meh if a get kicked from a server for owning them I just take a screenshot and add it to my collection of "OWNED" servers...lol...just find a good server in the sea of noob lead ones.
{TL}SHARPSHOOTER
Vacuum Sealed for Freshness
+26|7201|The Island of Carls Jr.

LordBeer wrote:

While I think kicking someone for being skilled is wrong, I understand where it comes from.

I suggest you try to groundpound for a bit and see just how much fun the game is when there is a jet pilot that can rape you proper. 

I see you're point about learning things in game, but a majority of players want to have fun.  Being killed 10x in a row with no chance of responding is not fun.  Doing that to a team multiple times will just make things worse.  You should have seen the kick comming.   

84% of all your kills are from vehicles.  Get in some shape and run around a little bit and/or find a server with decent admins that wont kick you for wrecking them.
And if he somehow owns? Then what? Some kids really want to create an environment where they seem like God.

Last edited by {TL}SHARPSHOOTER (2006-09-30 09:06:31)

Siders77
Member
+11|6884
Welcome to the world of BF2, is all I have to say.

People with no skill who get taken down a lot by the better pilots will almost alway call you a hacker because they can't fly as well as you.

I know I'm not a good pilot so it's frustrating when I get taken out all the time when I attempt to fly.

Nice stats, by the way.
LordBeer
Member
+1|7084|ChicagoLand

{TL}SHARPSHOOTER wrote:

And if he somehow owns? Then what? Some kids really want to create an environment where they seem like God.
Go join a CAL team and where his talents would be rewarded?  Might find some decent competition as well.  Dunno.  Can't really change the way some insecure people respond to a situation.

Last edited by LordBeer (2006-10-01 06:33:49)

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