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I was watching something on the history channel and I'm fairly certain that isn't even what a jihad is. I believe it was some sort of inner conflict or something of the Greater and Lesser Jihads.

Jihad literally means the Effort put into the struggles on behalf of god and Islam.

So OBL has been calling for muslims to join the Jihad but it's not really a TRUE Jihad? I really don't think it matters much and this is a pointless thread. People , no , muslim extremists between the ages of 17-35 are blowing themselves up all over the world on a daily basis. WTF is your point again ?

Thought Jihad meant Wholy war or something....

Sorry for the spelling mistakes.. if there are any! Not my first language

DesertFox423 wrote:

I was watching something on the history channel and I'm fairly certain that isn't even what a jihad is. I believe it was some sort of inner conflict or something of the Greater and Lesser Jihads.

Correct. The greater jihad is the internal mental and spiritual struggle to be a greater person.

The lesser jihad is a struggle to defend yourself when attacked.

Mohammed and the Koran placed the most emphasis on the greater jihad as it is a means of understanding.

rawls2 wrote:

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Doesn't help any when bush calls the "war on terrorism" a Crusade on international television.

Why not? It is what it is. We are at war with Islam. I wish it weren't true. Seeing how countries like Iran, syria, and the likes all promote violent acts against non islamist one can't help to think we are at war.Even though the majority of muslims are peaceful it doesn't help that the leaders of these people promote violence. As long as the leaders are extremist we have no joice but to go to war. If the peaceful muslims overthrew their leaders then we could be at peace. But thats not going to happen.

So it's a war between christianity and islam then?

SharkyMcshark wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Doesn't help any when bush calls the "war on terrorism" a Crusade on international television.

Why not? It is what it is. We are at war with Islam. I wish it weren't true. Seeing how countries like Iran, syria, and the likes all promote violent acts against non islamist one can't help to think we are at war.Even though the majority of muslims are peaceful it doesn't help that the leaders of these people promote violence. As long as the leaders are extremist we have no joice but to go to war. If the peaceful muslims overthrew their leaders then we could be at peace. But thats not going to happen.

There. Thats the kind of stupid, ill thought out comment that encourages terrorism. Point is that every religion has its complete idiots. And im not just talking about Islam, or even the IRA. What about The Western leaders such as Bush, getting priests to pray over his soldiers before he sends them away, and issuing statements saying that they are fighitng in the name of God?

Yeah I'd have to agree.  The Muslim fundamentalist do not represent the majority of Muslims around the world.  The "terrorist" are against western ideals.  In fact, Muslims in the U.S. and other western societies are as much as a target as Christians.  If you polarize this conflict into Islam vs. Christianity then you dismiss the true cause of this "war" we are currently engaged in.

Furthermore most of Iran's statements are aimed towards Israel.  Other statements are aimed towards the U.S. effort to block them from obtaining nuclear technology.  I don't see this a a direct attack on Christianity, neither do I see the U.S. stating any hostilities to say Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait, Egypt, etc etc.

Seems to me to be based on ideals rather then religion.


Jusster

Last edited by Jusster (2006-09-16 21:35:18)