BF2S Forums some combat questions

Going back to the commander point comments:

Dammit does anyone listen to me?

I have posted a crucial thing about commander points before.
You get a point if you order a squad to attack a point and they capture it.
You get a point if you order a squad to defend a point and one of them gets a flag defend.
You get a point if you drop supplies and they are used by friendlies.

I'm not sure about the "average score" thing, because I have never paid close enough attantion to it, but everyone seems to know of it, so I'm fine with that too.

Last edited by Tyferra (2005-12-05 18:50:28)

chitlin wrote:

oh another question ..

i was playing iron gator and it was 64/64 and with all the names i literally could not see shit ..and it was crazyily irritating and toggling 3d map doesnt turn off names .. so question is ... is there any way to toggle showing names through everything...

I was annoyed by this as well.  You can change the transparency of the names in the video options.

warco3 wrote:

Man this thread is full of people that ignore previous replies. STOP posting answers to all the questions in the original post if they've been answered already. Chitlin, READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS and stop asking the same damn questions. Now, here's how it goes for commander points:
You get a point everytime someone on your team captures a flag
You get a point if a teammate kills an enemy that you spot or UAV
You get points when teammates use your supply box
I'm not sure if you get a point for a teammate that makes a flag neutral. Someone reply on this.
You DO NOT get points for anything else DURING THE ROUND. And as stated NUMEROUS times on this freakin thread already, team actions such as kill assists, healing, resupply, and repair do not give you points BUT they register on your global stats.
Artillery kills register as global kills and as kills in a round for an award. YOU DO NOT GET POINTS FOR ARTILLERY KILLS NOR DO YOU SUFFER POINT LOSS FOR TEAMKILLS/TEAM DAMAGE WITH ARTILLERY, HOWEVER, you STILL get negative points for teamkills/team damage NON artillery.
Finally, at the end of the round, if you LOSE, you get the AVERAGE score of your team added to whatever you earned during the round. If you WIN, 2x the average score of your team gets added. Got it?

P.S. If I'm wrong correct me, but I'm pretty sure of all this info.

You are wrong on the commander points.

You do not get a point if someone on your team caps a flag.
You do not get a point if a teammate kills an enemy that you spot or UAV
You do not get points when teammates use your supply box
At the end of the round, you do not get an average of your team's score.

Commander points are accrued during the round as players on your team gain points. While you are commander, you will accrue points based on that average you are speaking about. If there are 7 players other than yourself and each player gets one kill (2 points per kill) then you will obtain 1.75 points since you are included in the average (8 players divided by 14 points = 1.75). If you resign and your teammates get 300 kills each and then you reapply and become commnader again, you will still have 1.75 points. If 5 players on the enemy team get 500 points each and then switch over to your team and they score nothing for you then you will still have 1.75 points since those points weren't accrued on your team, under your command.

If you are commander and all 7 players on your team score 2 points each, then all of them disconnect from the server, you will still have 1.75 points even after they leave since your points are accrued while they are there. Of course since there are no fractional points recorded, you will only have 1 point. So at the end of the round, your score will not likely be an average of what your team has with all of the team switching and disconnecting going on.

Scenario: If there are 5 players on your team besides yourself, no one switches sides, no one leaves, and no new players join, the players score the following: 80, 70, 60, 50, 40. That's 300 points total. 5 players + 1 commander = 6, so divide 300 by 6 and that will be your score (50). If you win, you will get 2x50 =100 and 100 is the top score, and you get gold. If the scores are as follows: 100, 40, 30, 20, 10 then that's 200/6=33. 33x2=66 no gold for you since the guy with 100 gets it.

It took me several hours of play to calcualate and verify this. It would be nice if EA would pay me and several others now for their complete lack of an instruction manuals included with the purchase of the games.

CackNBallz wrote:

M1-Lightning wrote:

If you are commander and all 7 players on your team score 2 points each, then all of them disconnect from the server, you will still have 1.75 points even after they leave since your points are accrued while they are there. Of course since there are no fractional points recorded, you will only have 1 point. So at the end of the round, your score will not likely be an average of what your team has with all of the team switching and disconnecting going on.

I would like to state that in fact fractional points are counted as you can achieve odd scores as a commander.  I have accrued 50 commander points, but was awarded 101 points overall with the 2x multiplier for the win. For example, if you accrued 1.75 commander points and your team won, you would get 3 points overall; 1.75*2 = 3.5 (pending if you didn't do anything else.) Although I am uncertain if it is a floor (where you round down to the nearest whole number if there is a fraction, or if it rounds normally - if you pass .5 points).

Of course. To clarify my point, you will not get 3.5 points after the 2x bonus and fractional points will not show up on the scoring screen. These fractional points remain hidden but are definitley included until the end of the round. It has never rounded up before, only down.

Sud wrote:

If you want to play as a grunt that bad, then stop taking commander. Let someone else do it.

Hear, hear Lightning. Nice to know there's at least one other person with common sense on these boards. Prompt and diligent spotting as commander is NOT optional, it's your duty.

When I get killed by a tank outside of the UAV that the commander didn't spot, I promptly mutiny the commander. It's absurd that one can't spot them outside of the UAV. On a full 64 player it does get to be a bit of annoyance hearing "enemy spotted" consistenly. But if UAV is on the Hotel at Karkand and there are three guys sneaking up the left side towards the Suburbs and an APC sneaking up the right to the Gatehouse, then it's a precarious situtation if you are a medic commander hanging around at the Hotel.

When I say "you" I'm directing towards Rambo commander.

On Wake, if you are the Chinese commander sitting in a tank popping boats with your shells then you'll likely miss the BH who went up 450 meters in altitude and is getting ready to drop HALO on the Airbase. You probably missed the Cobra getting ready to take the North Base and the boat who went all the way out to the map's edge before moving in to take the Beach. And of course Rambo commander is still sitting there with UAV on the little island killing boats while he's getting zero points for it.

You've got to love being on US on Wake when the other team has a commander like that. I love it when I see the commander has killed me with a rifle on Karkand since that means I will respawn and kill him and get a head start on taking his most precious base with my squad.