Need BIOS Help ( Original Graphics card prob )

2006-09-21 06:42:06

#1

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

Hi guys I'm having a little problem with my graphics card and I think I know how to fix it, need help tho.
OK here is the problem I have reinstalled windows XP on my PC I can do everything I like install anything PC runs fine, now soon as I install my ati graphics card drivers my PC just f**k's up when windows load it ses my Redion 9550 3D graphics card is cosing my system instability. Now i think I know what it is.

When I reinstalled windows ( PC is looking for its original graphics card ) and because it cant find it its installing its original software and when I install my ati drivers its crashing with original one,

Now I know there is a way of disabling graphics card in BIOS so its not looking for the original card I just don't know which one it is for me to disable it in BIOS

My question does anyone know which settings I need in BIOS to disable its original graphics card ?

Thanks for all the help.

Peace Boris

2006-09-21 07:40:22

#2

Twist: Too old to be doing this sh*t; +103|6971|Little blue planet, milky way

You can't... the graphics card IS NOT "stored" in the BIOS... The driver information is stored in windows. Usually a format reinstall will fix the problem. if it doesn't you have a problem with your card, go get it replaced.

2006-09-21 07:57:04

#3

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

I don't know if this will help, but I seem to remember the last time I looked at my BIOS there was an option to select the primary display device. Maybe that's it.

What mobo have you got Boris?

2006-09-22 02:40:07

#4

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

DoctorFruitloop wrote:
I don't know if this will help, but I seem to remember the last time I looked at my BIOS there was an option to select the primary display device. Maybe that's it.

What mobo have you got Boris?

AMD Athlon xp 2800 +

2006-09-22 02:41:13

#5

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

Sorry, what motherboard do you have?

2006-09-22 02:56:57

#6

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

DoctorFruitloop wrote:
Sorry, what motherboard do you have?

Bit of a noob question but where is that ? I tought it was in dxdiag but its not there :s

2006-09-22 02:59:10

#7

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

It should tell you when you turn your PC on, or CPU-Z might tell you (I can't remember).

If you find out let me know and I'll see if I can find the manual for it and steer you in the right direction.

Cheers,

Doc

2006-09-22 03:01:09

#8

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7079|Finland

What kind of system instability?

I was wondering that normally, after installing e.g. the "standard" catalyst driver pack from ati.com, the default driver is deactivated at reboot. What drivers have you installed? ATI:s own or OmegaDrivers etc.?

Some MB:s BIOS settings don't have an option to disable default drivers. If you find something referring to AGP in the "Advanced Options" menu (or similar), activate it (highest possible multiplier, of course ).

Flash your BIOS. In other words, visit the website of your motherboard manufacturer and get the latest BIOS version for your mb. Pray that they have a Windows-installer instead of having to flash the BIOS from disk.

But yeah, more specific help can/will (perhaps) be given if you supply the name/model of your motherboard. If you don't have the original booklet/packaging for the mb, clues can be found on the motherboard itself. The manufacturer name is shown often printed on the north/south bridge heatsink, for instance. The model number can e.g. be found printed along the edge of the motherboard or above the AGP/PCI-e slot.

You're welcome

-Don-

_{P.S. Don't go editing this post now, you hear?}

Last edited by DonFck (2006-09-22 03:11:00)

I need around tree fiddy.

2006-09-22 03:02:52

#9

EricTViking: Yes, I am Queeg; +48|6999|UK

The only way to disable graphics in the bios is if you have onboard graphics. That is, the motherboard has a VGA monitor socket built into it. In this case you can hunt around in the BIOS to find the option to disable onboard graphics.

If your system is still finding old graphics drivers, you could try fitting the new Gfx card and booting into Safe Mode to see if you can upgrade the drivers that way.

2006-09-22 03:07:49

#10

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

Just reading over your original post again, did your computer come preinstalled with windows and when you say you're reinstalling windows are you doing it from a CD or is it a recovery partition on your HDD?

It sounds like it's stubbornly installing a driver for another card and this is causing the problem. When it can't find your original card can you tell it to install a standard VGA adapter so that it doesn't load any graphics card specific drivers?

2006-09-22 03:10:27

#11

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7079|Finland

DoctorFruitloop wrote:
Just reading over your original post again, did your computer come preinstalled with windows and when you say you're reinstalling windows are you doing it from a CD or is it a recovery partition on your HDD?

It sounds like it's stubbornly installing a driver for another card and this is causing the problem. When it can't find your original card can you tell it to install a standard VGA adapter so that it doesn't load any graphics card specific drivers?

On the other hand, installing the driver software for the installed AGP-card should disable the standard VGA-driver.. Or at least that's the story with me and my ATI-cards.

I need around tree fiddy.

2006-09-22 03:14:26

#12

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

DoctorFruitloop wrote:
It should tell you when you turn your PC on, or CPU-Z might tell you (I can't remember).

If you find out let me know and I'll see if I can find the manual for it and steer you in the right direction.

Cheers,

Doc

I will see if I can find it

DonFck wrote:
What kind of system instability?

I was wondering that normally, after installing e.g. the "standard" catalyst driver pack from ati.com, the default driver is deactivated at reboot. What drivers have you installed? ATI:s own or OmegaDrivers etc.?

It was ATI soon as I install it windows freez up or pc reboots I did try disable the VGA in device manager but not seem2 be helping. sumone sugested disabling 2endry driver

EricTViking wrote:
The only way to disable graphics in the bios is if you have onboard graphics. That is, the motherboard has a VGA monitor socket built into it. In this case you can hunt around in the BIOS to find the option to disable onboard graphics.

If your system is still finding old graphics drivers, you could try fitting the new Gfx card and booting into Safe Mode to see if you can upgrade the drivers that way.

i think reason my new graphics card is crashing is because PC is still looking for its original graphics card which is not there any more its been replaced with ATI Redion 9550 3D 256 meg ( not the best card but its much better then my old one )

2006-09-22 03:14:27

#13

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

What I meant was it sounds like the version of windows Boris has is specific to his original hardware and it's got a pre-installed graphics card driver for a card that is no longer there. At least that's the way I read the post.

I seem to remember there being a utility somewhere, maybe on tweakguides.com, about removing old drivers. Maybe that could help.

2006-09-22 03:19:48

#14

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7079|Finland

badhq wrote:
i think reason my new graphics card is crashing is because PC is still looking for its original graphics card which is not there any more its been replaced with ATI Redion 9550 3D 256 meg ( not the best card but its much better then my old one )

Have you just recently changed cards; I see your referring to your "old" one. What make/model was the old card? Just wondering, if you have some Nvidia-s**t installed there still..?

Did you get any info on what motherboard you have?

Last edited by DonFck (2006-09-22 03:20:25)

I need around tree fiddy.

2006-09-22 03:23:00

#15

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

DonFck wrote:
badhq wrote:
i think reason my new graphics card is crashing is because PC is still looking for its original graphics card which is not there any more its been replaced with ATI Redion 9550 3D 256 meg ( not the best card but its much better then my old one )
Have you just recently changed cards; I see your referring to your "old" one. What make/model was the old card? Just wondering, if you have some Nvidia-s**t installed there still..?

Did you get any info on what motherboard you have?

I puled out the card but card does not have name on it :s nor is any info provided of it on my pc, as for Motherboard Im gona look now see if I can find it.

2006-09-22 03:24:11

#16

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

Do you have a model number for your PC or anything that would help us identify your motherboard. Who's the PC made by?

2006-09-22 03:39:50

#17

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

ok Its GA-7VASFS ( I think its that one )

Pc is made by Fujitsu Siemens

2006-09-22 03:41:08

#18

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

Dude, try PM'ing SkoobyDu, he works at Fujitsu Siemens

2006-09-22 03:44:44

#19

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7079|Finland

So it's a Gigabyte Socket-A..

User Manual

There is no integrated VGA on the mobo.. so the problem could be..? Voltage?

Did you download the compatible Catalyst software from ati.com?

Last edited by DonFck (2006-09-22 03:51:59)

I need around tree fiddy.

2006-09-22 03:55:54

#20

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

DonFck wrote:
So it's a Gigabyte Socket-A..

User Manual

There is no integrated VGA on the mobo.. so the problem could be..? Voltage?

Did you download the compatible Catalyst software from ati.com?

Yeap First I downloaded Catalyst software from ati.com
Then I tryed All-In-Wonder Still same thing

I know its not my graphics card cas its new

So what ells could it be ?

2006-09-22 03:58:28

#21

DonFck: Hibernator; +3,227|7079|Finland

OK, so the whole system crashes, right? How?

Does it just power off without notice, and then restart?

I started thinking PSU, here.. how many watts is it?

Last edited by DonFck (2006-09-22 04:03:11)

I need around tree fiddy.

2006-09-22 03:59:50

#22

DoctorFruitloop: Level 13 Wrongdoer; +515|6994|Doncaster, UK

Just a thought, put your old card back in, let everything be hunky dory, then uninstall the drivers for your old card, put the new card back in, turn back on and see if you can pick up the new card properly.

Just as an aside, I originally had a Radeon 9550 in my rig and it wouldn't work properly with the new drivers and catalyst. Have you tried the version that came with it on the CD?

2006-09-22 04:05:11

#23

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

DoctorFruitloop wrote:
Just a thought, put your old card back in, let everything be hunky dory, then uninstall the drivers for your old card, put the new card back in, turn back on and see if you can pick up the new card properly.

Just as an aside, I originally had a Radeon 9550 in my rig and it wouldn't work properly with the new drivers and catalyst. Have you tried the version that came with it on the CD?

I sent Pm to scooby thats the thing I cant find the original CD

Besicly PC works fine if i dont install the ATI drivers everything works fine but whole screen looks dirty like it has sum sort of old school graphics card. Now soon as I install ATI Drivers for my new card to work. Pc ether does the following

1. Loads up till the screen where it seas loading windows It freezis and restarts.
2. It actualy loads up windows lets me go in to desktop and then after about 2 mins pc just freez up and restarts, or it will just restart with out freezing up.

If I dont do anything in desktop it seem to be ok soon as I start doing sumthing it will crash. I.e if i change screen resolution ( to anything ) or if i try runing any type of programit will restart I tryed setting the ATI settings to minimum when drivers are installed but same thing keeps happening

2006-09-22 04:05:25

#24

EricTViking: Yes, I am Queeg; +48|6999|UK

badhq wrote:
DonFck wrote:
So it's a Gigabyte Socket-A..

User Manual

There is no integrated VGA on the mobo.. so the problem could be..? Voltage?

Did you download the compatible Catalyst software from ati.com?
Yeap First I downloaded Catalyst software from ati.com
Then I tryed All-In-Wonder Still same thing

I know its not my graphics card cas its new

So what ells could it be ?

Does the card show up correctly in Device Manager?

Right click "My Computer" and select "Properties". Click "Hardware" tab and click "Device Manager" button. Now expand the "Display Adapters" tab and make sure the graphics card shows as "Radeon 9550" - or whatever it should be.

Does the device look correct in device manager?

Are there any red or yellow icons showing next to the device?

If all the above looks good then the drivers are *probably* not at fault.

Other causes of problems could be PSU. If the new card draws more power from the system than the old card, your power supply may not be up to it. Is there a separate Molex power connector on the Gfx card? If so make sure you connect it to a power lead.

It is possible that the new card is faulty too. Even if it is recognised by windows and seems to work it could have bad video RAM. Not sure if there are any *free* tools to check video RAM but might be worth a search.

Final thought, make sure the card is really firmly seated. I have seen a number of systems where the AGP card isn't quite seated in the slot.

2006-09-22 04:11:57

#25

Breez: AKA: badhq; +937|7080|Derby, England

EricTViking wrote:
badhq wrote:
DonFck wrote:
So it's a Gigabyte Socket-A..

User Manual

There is no integrated VGA on the mobo.. so the problem could be..? Voltage?

Did you download the compatible Catalyst software from ati.com?
Yeap First I downloaded Catalyst software from ati.com
Then I tryed All-In-Wonder Still same thing

I know its not my graphics card cas its new

So what ells could it be ?
Does the card show up correctly in Device Manager?

Right click "My Computer" and select "Properties". Click "Hardware" tab and click "Device Manager" button. Now expand the "Display Adapters" tab and make sure the graphics card shows as "Radeon 9550" - or whatever it should be.

Does the device look correct in device manager?

Are there any red or yellow icons showing next to the device?

If all the above looks good then the drivers are *probably* not at fault.

Other causes of problems could be PSU. If the new card draws more power from the system than the old card, your power supply may not be up to it. Is there a separate Molex power connector on the Gfx card? If so make sure you connect it to a power lead.

Final thought, make sure the card is really firmly seated. I have seen a number of systems where the AGP card isn't quite seated in the slot.

This card worked perfect bifore i reinstalled fresh windows cas I reformated the whole driver, Now in device manager if i dont have ati drivers installed I have 3 ellow question marks 1 of them is for sound devices ( soon as I do drivers and utility cd install that works fine )

Now I disabled the other to which are my VGA and graphics card driver I install ATI redion and it shows up in Device perfect like its nothing wrong with it. I also tryed installing it with out disabling VGa and graphicard still same thing, I must of reinstalled windows 5 times now cas I cant get in to desktop , Nothing wrong with this PC but I cant play BF2 on this ( as its a wide screen BF2 does not support wide screen )

I still need my Main PC

Thanx for help so far

Peace Boris

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