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2006-09-25 13:51:44
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7143|Antarctica
--Unlocks--

2142-
40 unlocks, about 20 of which are actual weapons.  The rest is non-offensive kit gear.

BF2-
14 unlocks, all of which are weapons.

POE2-
No unlocks



--Non-unlock primary weapons--

2142-
4 classes and 2 armies, so 8 weapons.  All weapons are mirror balanced.

BF2-
7 classes and 3 armies, so 21 weapons.  Some weapons are mirror balanced.

POE2-
7 classes and 2 armies, so 14 weapons.  Pickup kits are available, hardly any weapons are mirror balanced.



--Vehicles--
-Light vehicles

2142-
1 jeep (used by both sides) and 2 variants APC per army, so 3 light vehicles.

BF2-
 2 variants of jeeps per army, so 6 light vehicles.

POE2-
 3 jeeps for GER, 2 for URK, 1 APC per army, so 7 light vehicles.


-Heavy vehicles

2142-
1 tank and 1 battle walker per side, so 4 heavy vehicles.

BF2-
1 tank, 1 anti air, and 1 APC per side, so 6 heavy vehicles.

POE2-
1 APC per side, 2 tanks for UKR and 1 for GER, 1 AA for GER and 2 for UKR, 1 Artillery piece per army, so 10 heavy vehicles.



-Aircraft

2142
1 transport and 1 gunship per side, so 4 aircraft.

BF2-
1 fighter, 1 bomber, F35B, 1 attack helicopter, and 1 transport chopper per side, so 13 aircraft.

POE2-
1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 attack helicopter, and 1 transport chopper per side, so 8 aircraft.



--Maps--

2142-
10 maps, five of which can be played on other game modes. So essentially you have 15 maps.

BF2-
14 maps, no other game modes.

POE2-
13 maps, 10 of which can be played on different game modes.  So essentially you have 23 maps.




In summary:
You get less maps with 2142, less weapons, less classes, less vehicles, and less armies.  And it costs the same as BF2.  POE has more than 2142 and its only in its first version.

Last edited by VeNg3nCe^ (2006-09-26 10:41:32)

2006-09-25 13:54:56
jord
Member
+2,382|7115|The North, beyond the wall.
Add how many ranks there are in each.

Just so 2142 wins another one.
2006-09-25 13:55:38
MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7212|EUR
Thats put quite a few things in perspective.
2006-09-25 13:56:24
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7143|Antarctica

jord wrote:

Add how many ranks there are in each.

Just so 2142 wins another one.
I am comparing gameplay not stats.  Stats contribute nothing to gameplay but more playtime.
2006-09-25 14:04:08
jord
Member
+2,382|7115|The North, beyond the wall.

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

jord wrote:

Add how many ranks there are in each.

Just so 2142 wins another one.
I am comparing gameplay not stats.  Stats contribute nothing to gameplay but more playtime.
Oh,Well done for taking the time to make the thread.

I would add some sort of opinion,but i have never played POE and i'm tired.
2006-09-25 14:14:58
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7143|Antarctica

jord wrote:

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

jord wrote:

Add how many ranks there are in each.

Just so 2142 wins another one.
I am comparing gameplay not stats.  Stats contribute nothing to gameplay but more playtime.
Oh,Well done for taking the time to make the thread.

I would add some sort of opinion,but i have never played POE and i'm tired.
BF2 has more as well.
2006-09-25 16:14:39
The1_Knightmare
Alt+F4 For God-Mode
+14|7063
In Light Vehicle, you said BF2 had 2 jeeps in each side which should make it 4. But you said 6, but i assume you meant the APC as 2142 and POE2 had the APC in the Light Vehicles. But then in Heavy Vehicle, you added APC again to BF2.
2006-09-25 16:16:01
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7157|California

someone is a widdle bias, no?

2006-09-25 16:17:52
Chou
Member
+737|7228
Made with the same engine, different skin, same ammount of money.
2006-09-25 16:19:34
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7184|The United Center
USMC has the F35 and the F18.  13 aircraft total.

You fail, Vengence.  You fail.
2006-09-25 16:26:10
lendll
Member
+16|6870
Just meaning to be helpful:
the number of aircrafts you named were four for bf2 and poe2, but for poe2, you numerically sum the aircrafts as eight, which would translate as 4 aircrafts for 2 armies each, instead of 4 aircrafts for *3* armies each. I never played poe2, but from the information given above, poe2 has 3 armies, right? I guess it can be edited to 12 aircrafts for both poe2 and bf2, unless I misread something:)

...I think ur conclusion was super concise. Nice info:D

The1_Knightmare wrote:

In Light Vehicle, you said BF2 had 2 jeeps in each side which should make it 4. But you said 6, but i assume you meant the APC as 2142 and POE2 had the APC in the Light Vehicles. But then in Heavy Vehicle, you added APC again to BF2.
Maybe he added the bf2 apc to heavy vehicle cuz it's much more of a threat than bf2142's apc? Dunno hehe;)

Last edited by lendll (2006-09-25 16:32:34)

2006-09-25 19:28:04
Havazn
Member
+39|7131|van.ca
This is a comparison only in quantity, not quality. You have to play each game to find which one you like better. Some like more vehicles, some like less. I personally like less vehicles but still a couple around. If a game had 1000 tanks, I wouldnt touch it. It's personal preference. If 2142's unlock system and gameplay were really good quality, i'd take it over a handful more vehicles in less fun games.
2006-09-25 19:34:52
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6923|Melbourne

I would love to see Forgotten Hope 2 upthere also they have a ruff idea of what there including into the game on the web site.  Forgotten Hope 2, its going to own.
~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
2006-09-25 19:41:31
vedds
Member
+52|7192|Christchurch New Zealand

lendll wrote:

Just meaning to be helpful:
the number of aircrafts you named were four for bf2 and poe2, but for poe2, you numerically sum the aircrafts as eight, which would translate as 4 aircrafts for 2 armies each, instead of 4 aircrafts for *3* armies each. I never played poe2, but from the information given above, poe2 has 3 armies, right? I guess it can be edited to 12 aircrafts for both poe2 and bf2, unless I misread something:)
Nope its 2 armies in POE2
2006-09-25 19:51:01
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6923|Melbourne

vedds wrote:

lendll wrote:

Just meaning to be helpful:
the number of aircrafts you named were four for bf2 and poe2, but for poe2, you numerically sum the aircrafts as eight, which would translate as 4 aircrafts for 2 armies each, instead of 4 aircrafts for *3* armies each. I never played poe2, but from the information given above, poe2 has 3 armies, right? I guess it can be edited to 12 aircrafts for both poe2 and bf2, unless I misread something:)
Nope its 2 armies in POE2
And Soon russia and USA are been added from what i have heard!
~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
2006-09-25 19:57:36
Jbrar
rawr
+86|6979|Winterpeg, Canada
From the gameplay I have experienced, here's my opinion.

POE2=BF2>BF1942 (lol, i still love it though)
POE2 & BF2 & BF1942>BF2142 & BF Vietnam

But that's my opinion with what i've experienced, so don't flame me like semi illiterate pricks.
2006-09-25 19:58:14
SGT.Slayero
Member
+98|6902|Life in a vacuum sucks
i like them all!!
2006-09-25 20:24:56
VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|7143|Antarctica

The1_Knightmare wrote:

In Light Vehicle, you said BF2 had 2 jeeps in each side which should make it 4. But you said 6, but i assume you meant the APC as 2142 and POE2 had the APC in the Light Vehicles. But then in Heavy Vehicle, you added APC again to BF2.
BF2 has 2 variants of jeeps per side, 3 armies, so 6.  There's more to BF2 than MEC and the USMC.  the APC in BF2 is more of a miniature battle tank, hence the heavy vehicle designation.  The 2142 APC is for transport and POE has a fighting APC and a transport, thats why the POE APC gets on the list twice.


USMC has the F35 and the F18.  13 aircraft total.

You fail, Vengence.  You fail.
The F35B is a coffin with a jet engine but I'll add it anyways.
2006-09-26 00:29:47
~Smokey~
Steve Irwin Reincarnate
+396|6975|Internetfitlerland

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

--Non-unlock primary weapons--

2142-
4 classes and 2 armies, so 8 weapons.  All weapons are mirror balanced.

BF2-
7 classes and 3 armies, so 28 weapons.  Some weapons are mirror balanced.

POE2-
7 classes and 2 armies, so 21 weapons.  Pickup kits are available, hardly any weapons are mirror balanced.
4x2=8  Good math
7x3=28?  Bad math
4x2=21?  Bad math

Either that or I'm missing the point.

Apart from that good guide.

Last edited by ~Smokey~ (2006-09-26 00:33:30)

2006-09-26 03:15:23
JovesApples
Member
+4|6890|USA
POE2 is pretty cool, but they totally nerfed the Commander by making his only job to drop supply crates

POE2 is a mod for BF2 and i personally dont think its better at all, "riding the coat tails of the king"

cant wait to play FH2, this is what i want in a mod, i want it to be like BF2 but a different setting

the points and ranks are what keep me addicted to BF2, and in a few weeks probably 2142
2006-09-26 03:51:40
P581
Monkey
+44|6906
This post is good in concept, but was written to support how the poster has emotionally perceived the games. Also the bad math, and a biased summary based on his inaccurate and terse comparisons are just completely unacceptable.

I Think all of the games you have mentioned are good for their own reasons and have unique qualities you could have touched on in your summary. You let your personal bias, and laziness get in the way of a good article. If you were to re-write this article with explanations of each statistic and how it affected each game differently this would have been a great article worthy of serious debate.
2006-09-26 04:01:12
Tas3674
Member
+8|6877|Tasmania, Australia

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

--Unlocks--

2142-
40 unlocks, about 20 of which are actual weapons.  The rest is non-offensive kit gear.

BF2-
14 unlocks, all of which are weapons.

POE2-
No unlocks



--Non-unlock primary weapons--

2142-
4 classes and 2 armies, so 8 weapons.  All weapons are mirror balanced.

BF2-
7 classes and 3 armies, so 28 weapons.  Some weapons are mirror balanced.

POE2-
7 classes and 2 armies, so 21 weapons.  Pickup kits are available, hardly any weapons are mirror balanced.



--Vehicles--
-Light vehicles

2142-
1 jeep (used by both sides) and 2 variants APC per army, so 3 light vehicles.

BF2-
 2 variants of jeeps per army, so 6 light vehicles.

POE2-
 3 jeeps for GER, 2 for URK, 1 APC per army, so 7 light vehicles.


-Heavy vehicles

2142-
1 tank and 1 battle walker per side, so 4 heavy vehicles.

BF2-
1 tank, 1 anti air, and 1 APC per side, so 6 heavy vehicles.

POE2-
1 APC per side, 2 tanks for UKR and 1 for GER, 1 AA for GER and 2 for UKR, 1 Artillery piece per army, so 10 heavy vehicles.



-Aircraft

2142
1 transport and 1 gunship per side, so 4 aircraft.

BF2-
1 fighter, 1 bomber, F35B, 1 attack helicopter, and 1 transport chopper per side, so 13 aircraft.

POE2-
1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 attack helicopter, and 1 transport chopper per side, so 8 aircraft.



--Maps--

2142-
10 maps, five of which can be played on other game modes. So essentially you have 15 maps.

BF2-
14 maps, no other game modes.

POE2-
13 maps, 10 of which can be played on different game modes.  So essentially you have 23 maps.




In summary:
You get less maps with 2142, less weapons, less classes, less vehicles, and less armies.  And it costs the same as BF2.  POE has more than 2142 and its only in its first version.
um POE may be in its first stages, BUT SO IS 2142! like for instance in BF2 they added new maps so y cant they in 2142? and y do you need a large verity in heavy, light and aircraft, as long as they have 1 or 2 of each and the weps are made up for in unlocks. So 2142 wins in Nealy every thing against Bf2 and is lesser and equal to POE.
2006-09-26 04:01:49
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6983|Doncaster, UK
Nobody here has enough experience of BF2142 as a retail game to make any kind of comparisons. All we've had is a beta people. If you're gonna condemn a game on the strength of one game mode on one map, in an unfinished game then simply don't play 2142 when it's released.
2006-09-26 04:24:20
~Smokey~
Steve Irwin Reincarnate
+396|6975|Internetfitlerland

I have to ask VeNg3nCe^, but did you pass maths at school?  I'm not joking, did you?
2006-09-26 04:30:53
TodErnst
It's not a bug, it's a feature
+38|7065|Muenster, Germany

Choumichel wrote:

Made with the same engine, different skin, same ammount of money.
I think the amount of money is less, cause the engine is already there.
BF2142 should be much cheaper, cause it's only a MOD !!!

 

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