I just own in nearly every round I play lol take a look at my stats
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Imo you have to have a good rythm and flow, if your stiff then your crosshair will most likely skip when your aiming but if you have good rythm/timing and flow then the crosshair will run smooth when leading or aiming on the target. Good rythm/timing/flow/quickness and distance judging = 1 sec kills imo, its hard to explain but after playing awhile youll get it down.
EDIT: haha nice one naughty_om took the words write out of my post +1 fo u.
EDIT: haha nice one naughty_om took the words write out of my post +1 fo u.
Last edited by s()mtingWong (2006-09-27 00:33:05)
The problem with the "Drop, roll and shoot" thingy is that the animation fools you in thinking that it would be better to let the enemy complete the roll before you start shooting.
The thing is that when the animation is playing he's already on the ground taking aim...
The thing is that when the animation is playing he's already on the ground taking aim...
im currently struggling with the habit of aiming AWAY to the direction of the guy rolling to..Sambuccashake wrote:
The problem with the "Drop, roll and shoot" thingy is that the animation fools you in thinking that it would be better to let the enemy complete the roll before you start shooting.
The thing is that when the animation is playing he's already on the ground taking aim...
for example,
guy sees me
guy prone and do a roll to left
i aim to the left of him..
got a faceful of bullets
What he said. Your on-target shots were getting you kills, by the looks of things. The 'misses' were just that, misses. Leading sideways-moving targets is always very difficult, for a start, so hitting those guys is nearly as much chance as anything. With the other targets, you're a little too quick off the mark. If you took another half a second or so to get your sights lined up correctly, you'd get those kills. Yes, that's a tricky position to take that extra half-second from, but that's what sniping is about, finding the time to take that perfect shot.Not wrote:
I dunno man, maybe I couldn't see well enough due to the quality of the vid, but nothing looked all that odd there. You're taking quick shots and you hit when you were lined up properly. All the misses I saw look like the misses I make when I'm playing. Just rushed and not aimed properly. Not saying you weren't doing well, since that's a tough position to be in, and you were doing the right thing by acquiring targets quickly and taking cover, but you have to expect that you'll miss half your shots when you're snapping to targets and firing rather than lining them up carefully. Again, that's not because you're not skilled with it, it was because you weren't in a position to be able to line up shots more carefully without being killed.aLi3nZ wrote:
This was also part of the small amount of recorded fraps last night.
Hit boxes / bullet registration problem or bad aim? I think a bit of both. Either way I hate using sniper kit.
To the OP: One of the major things about the 'instant-kills' when you meet someone around a corner is the headshot. You'll find that good players will try for, and often get, a headshot in nearly any encounter. With many of the guns, that's an instant kill, since any weapon with a damage of 34 or higher will kill you with a single bullet in the head. That includes many of the major culprits in the around-the-corner combat arena, like PKM, G3 and any of the AK's. The G36E does it too, because on burst fire one in the head and one in the body is enough to kill, and its burst is very fast.
Assuming this is you: http://bf2s.com/player/53571480/ try spending more time on Mashtuur, Warlord and Ghost Town. They're still infantry maps, but the streets are bigger than the Karkand/Sharqi ones, making them a bit less chaotic (Warlords palace excepted, obviously). The slightly slower pace of combat will give you a chance to develop your skills of headshotting, and when you start getting better you can take your skills back to Karkand, where you'll discover you don't want to play Karkand anymore
Thanks for the feed back +1
I wonder... how exactly is he doing that movement? What are the commands (combination of prone and crouch?) And how can one counter it? I start shooting the moment I see him but he rolls and fires at the same moment and kills me.Sambuccashake wrote:
The problem with the "Drop, roll and shoot" thingy is that the animation fools you in thinking that it would be better to let the enemy complete the roll before you start shooting.
The thing is that when the animation is playing he's already on the ground taking aim...
You roll by moving laterally, usually at a slight diagonal angle as well, and going prone while moving. instead of just dropping straight down as you would if you weren't moving, or moving straight forward, you roll to the ground to prone. When you get really used to it, you can run straight at someone, create that movement very quickly and prone to roll all the time. Just takes some practice is all.Pierre wrote:
I wonder... how exactly is he doing that movement? What are the commands (combination of prone and crouch?) And how can one counter it? I start shooting the moment I see him but he rolls and fires at the same moment and kills me.Sambuccashake wrote:
The problem with the "Drop, roll and shoot" thingy is that the animation fools you in thinking that it would be better to let the enemy complete the roll before you start shooting.
The thing is that when the animation is playing he's already on the ground taking aim...
Also, someone in that position has a definite advantage for a couple reasons.
1. Doing that maneuver messes up your hitbox a little bit. There are numerous ways to break the hitbox in BF2, this is just one of them.
2. If you're already prone when he does this, your range of fire isn't very large, especially if you're scoped. What's worse, is that you don't have any mobility to evade the shots from prone. Basically he just sees you and you're dead.
3. If you're standing, your accuracy won't be as high as his, which can make you miss your shots more often than he would. He has the advantage here in a lot of situations, especially if you weren't expecting him to be there.
In order to counter, there are a few things you can do.
1. Use your cover! Take away a couple of those advantages by turning the tables on the environment. If you can take cover, do it and then plan your next move based on his last known position and his kit if you could tell.
2. If he's very close to you, don't shoot. Jump over him. A player that's prone now has yet another disadvantage at close range in that it takes him a second to stand back up. The last thing you want to do is run away from someone in that situation. You want to close the distance and keep him confused. Especially if he's scoped, you can disappear from his sights and gain a huge advantage while he tries to relocate his shots. Most people don't expect you to close the distance in that situation, and it surprises them more often than not.
3. Don't drop prone and scope. Your best chance to survive here with most weapons is to keep as much mobility as possible from the standing position, and don't lose your field of vision by scoping. This is one thing that I see a lot of new or relatively inexperienced players doing too infrequently. The crosshairs are useful for long range shots with a few guns, but with others it's a serious detriment. If you're in close range, don't scope. Keep the mobility advantage by staying on your feet, and your vision advantage by using the open scope method. A lot of people underestimate the accuracy of their weapons without the ironsights/scopes up. Just practice a little bit without using the zooms and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how accurate you can be while retaining all your movement speed and field of vision.
4. CIRCLE STRAFE. I can't emphasize this enough in any close quarters situation. Every FPS gamer should use this as often as possible. It's a combination of movement in two different directions at all time, and if you already have the drop on an opponent, it makes you a VERY difficult target to acquire and hit. It's an ancient technique that's used in practically every FPS by the great players, and there's a reason why it's still used so frequently and effectively. If you're able to move forward and to a side at the same time to create a semi circle around your opponent, you're giving yourself a great advantage.
5. Know your weapon. If you're using a support kit, don't try to fire from standing unscoped. Even though I just recommended it, that method is totally useless with an RPK unless you're literally inches away. With assault rifles however, it's what you should do. With a support kit, for the record, your best bet is to start firing and go prone with him, but don't scope. Especially don't scope with the M249, at least in my experience it's far more accurate even at great range when you don't scope it. The RPK can be scoped pretty effectively, and I won't even bother with the unlocks, since I refuse to use them. (Not allowed in league play anyway so using them is bad practice.)
This is basically what I try to do, and I have a lot of success with it. There are plenty of other good ideas too, and it all depends on your own preferences and particular areas of expertise so make sure to mold your own strategies to your play style. Hope this helped a little!
Last edited by Not (2006-09-27 04:17:50)
The key to this one is to take your time. I know sometimes this is'nt possible if the guy is jumpin around like like a retard on acid. But aim for the head and wait for a second before shooting. This will work. Also use a bolt action sniper rifle for this.higezzzz wrote:
ok also, any snipers running on low want to tell me why i cant get a headshot off worth crap. ive never had one, seriously. Ive gotton kills, but not head shots
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
@ Not: Thanks, much appreciated! I'll try this next time.
i have this very same probly so many times i get 1 shot killed by pkm'ers instently and i dont wanna come off as cocky but im a bloody good inf player... but i can never seem to do it ... i mean sure i see em i jump pron (while in the air unload) an by the time iv hit the ground all iv managed to do is create a sandstorm over the persons body WHY CANT I GET FUCKEN REGO
i play with 1gig of ram and the computer can handle high qaulity no lag... but i turn it on low for that extreme fps... still no rego ? i ping at 40? or so .. WHAT COULD BE FUCKING CAUSING IT!
i play with 1gig of ram and the computer can handle high qaulity no lag... but i turn it on low for that extreme fps... still no rego ? i ping at 40? or so .. WHAT COULD BE FUCKING CAUSING IT!
No!. you dirty medic whore stop using kit equipment!!aLi3nZ wrote:
What I'm not allowed to heal myself now?
Ok, that guy is a cheater but that doesn't mean someone can line up on your face and burst a few rounds on you in a matter of seconds. You should know.usmarine2005 wrote:
Cheaters. There was some guy when I was playing earlier, SilkDaShocka or something like that. He was on my team, shot me to grab the mounted MG. So I was pissed and went to stab him......nothing. I stabbed him 20+ times and he didn't die. The I unloaded 100 rounds into him...nothing.
How do you get a one second kill? Skill. How do you get that skill? Practicing. Not practicing jumping around a corner and shooting people because your apt to find yourself in front of a tank. Just play, and shoot for the head.
It will come in time.
lagginess is more of a problem with the sniper rifles because of the single shot and bullet travel time on longer shots. This can be caused by your lag or there(the person your shooting at) lag.higezzzz wrote:
ok also, any snipers running on low want to tell me why i cant get a headshot off worth crap. ive never had one, seriously. Ive gotton kills, but not head shots
I have seen some people have great rounds when they have a ping of +140 while everyone else has ping between 20 and 70, this causes everyone to shoot at where they were instead of where the are. All they have to do is keep moving to keep from getting shot.
Its called a macro.higezzzz wrote:
All the time i see people jump out of corners into a barrel roll, land in prone, and then im dead as soon as they hit the ground.
How do i do that? i mean i actually aim and fire, but how do they know where to hit without seeing me?
1. Shotgun
2. Flashbang
3. Ak
4. G36e
2. Flashbang
3. Ak
4. G36e
wow thanks for all the feedback guys. i really appreciate it.
Add a Razer Copperhead to that equation and that wil = you doing ithigezzzz wrote:
1024 ram + cable connection + crappy mouse = me not being able to do it?Naughty_Om wrote:
Good ram, + good connection + good mouse + Spray n' pray = desired effect....or aimbot
do my settings on low have anything to do with my inability to do this stuff.
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
I switched from a wireless mouse to a Razer, and it actually does help a bit. Razer makes a useful gaming mouse, and wire > wireless for quick reaction time.haffeysucks wrote:
Add a Razer Copperhead to that equation and that wil = you doing ithigezzzz wrote:
1024 ram + cable connection + crappy mouse = me not being able to do it?Naughty_Om wrote:
Good ram, + good connection + good mouse + Spray n' pray = desired effect....or aimbot
do my settings on low have anything to do with my inability to do this stuff.
I had been thinking about posting a similar question to the original poster's... I've been following along and learning a bit, though I wonder how much my anti-pwnage is from lack of experience, and how much is from being an "old man" of 40.
Bah... I try to have fun anyway; 'tis only a game.
I don't think anyone pointed it out, but you were standing for every shot in the video. Standing = Low Accuracy.aLi3nZ wrote:
This was also part of the small amount of recorded fraps last night.
Hit boxes / bullet registration problem or bad aim? I think a bit of both. Either way I hate using sniper kit.
I'm not sure so don't take out the torch and pitchfork just yet. But, I remember reading somewhere that the sniper rifle accuracy doesn't change in different positions, it's one of the perks of the kit to add to accuracy. Like I said, i could have been on crack or the guide could have been wrong. But I do remember reading that the sniper kit is the only one that isn't affected by the standing/prone/crouch change.san4 wrote:
I don't think anyone pointed it out, but you were standing for every shot in the video. Standing = Low Accuracy.aLi3nZ wrote:
This was also part of the small amount of recorded fraps last night.
Hit boxes / bullet registration problem or bad aim? I think a bit of both. Either way I hate using sniper kit.
lol you dip, yes i shot you once or twice with my pistol, not enough to cease fire, or kill you. was just trying to scare you off gun, and your dumbass fell for it. i knew youd do something so i crouched on and off, i heard you trying to stab me.usmarine2005 wrote:
Cheaters. There was some guy when I was playing earlier, SilkDaShocka or something like that. He was on my team, shot me to grab the mounted MG. So I was pissed and went to stab him......nothing. I stabbed him 20+ times and he didn't die. The I unloaded 100 rounds into him...nothing.
did you help to notice i was a medic? with bags on ground when i took gun? oh wait did you happen to notice that the team damage is only partial on that server?
newblet
P.S. never used a program/hack for bf2 except my logitech joystick profiler.
Faulty aimbot I say.usmarine2005 wrote:
Cheaters. There was some guy when I was playing earlier, SilkDaShocka or something like that. He was on my team, shot me to grab the mounted MG. So I was pissed and went to stab him......nothing. I stabbed him 20+ times and he didn't die. The I unloaded 100 rounds into him...nothing.
read my goddamn guide http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=55088
The sweet irony of this is: usmarine2005's uninstalled BF2.
Good job registering a year late and reviving a thread, though.
Good job registering a year late and reviving a thread, though.
