BF2S Forums What do you prefer out of Chopper Gunner...?

TAXI: An Attack chopper is NOT a Taxi so use the Black-hawk

Disagree tbh make sure gunner is squad leader bail out over TV Station get rest of team to spawn on him take tv station hey presto 2 tanks 2 attack choppers 1 apc UMSC pwned Sharqui over and done with within 5 mins max .

Drax wrote:

i dont mind if they have a go.

exactly, i'd rather have a crap gunner making an effort, then an idiot sitting in the seat watching the world pass him by. im an average pilot at best, but i know when ive had an excellent gunner all ive basically had to do was watch out for and evade other choppers/AA, line them up and bang. ive had gunners where ive thought, wtf? maybe im doing something wrong because this guy isnt even firing the gun let alone the tv missle.. but im not worried either way. sometimes i just fly chopper because its fun. and i always have missles there to help. people seem to forget that. the pilot can take out armour and infantry as well.

I hate it when im in a heli, and i have no voip, and im hovering and there is another helicopter at 12 oclock, i have him perfectly lined up for tv and he still shoots the fucking minigun! and of course we die...motherfuckers i just get so pissed because now i have to go (if on wake island)  and fight for the chopper again.  Pisses me off that people dont know what the fuck they are doing in the game

the problem I find with gunning is its hard to practice. I spend hours in single player FLYING the choppers and I feel I've gotten pretty good. The only way to practice TV'ing an enemy helo....is well.....online...?

I guess you could play single player with bots on a helo map and get a bot to fly you around. Maybe I'll give this a shot. I'm at a point where if a decent pilot can line up a side shot on an unsuspecting enemy chopper I'll usually hit him. If he's hovering around a flag or generally staying still I'll hit him everytime. But in air to air combat you dont always know what the pilot wants. Some pilots will maneuvre and not rely on their gunner so much. They'll evade the incoming TV, fly close and unload bombs while you hit em with your MG. This style definately works, but theres the other pilot who stays in the distance, evading incomings while lining you up for TV's. In strict dogfights I'll admit I'm maybe 1 in 5 with the TV, it all depends on the skill of the other pilot and to an extent the skill of my pilot. I hate when they wont get elevation on the opponent and your nose is low under the enemy chopper.



So I guess pilots, dont rely totally on every gunner who jumps in your seat. Not everyone can hit a helo with a TV from halfway across the map, so if this is the case adjust your strategy instead of bitching. You can definately get kills by dodging incomings while closing the distance so your gunner can MG the chopper while you unload dumb bombs on him. I'm actually quite good at piloting using this tactic and you should all practice in these cases too. Its called adapting....in an online game you cant rely on your teammate to be a perfect TV shot unless he's a clanmate or something. But if your playing a pub and you pick up a random dude off your carrier, you cant always rely on him. Learn to take out tanks/apcs/AA/choppers on your own too, its REALLY nice when your gunner can do this more efficiently, but its no reason to lose the air advantage or the round because he cant gun properly.

Last edited by turkeybacon (2006-09-23 10:23:18)

Haze999 wrote:

Your guide is terrible, I didn't even finish reading it. Most of your points would be valid if this was ... REAL LIFE. It obviously isn't and most of the things you said don't happen. The gunner shouldn't be looking out for the pilot, a good pilot will almost always see things faster then a good gunner.  Obviously you have been flying around with noobs, or you made this for a desperation of "karma" points.

Look at my stats. Expert chopper... Chopper Medal.

Everything my guide has has worked and is functional due to my squad and my Gunner, doing exactly whats on the list. it's everyone who doesnt do this that causes the kills and deaths to occur. As a post above you said, ""If I hover waiting.. sitting ducks"

I could care less about Karma points. I really want better gunners, because n00bs who think they can fight think ... this doesnt matter.

Keep believing your beliefs, but Everything in my post has worked with my Clanmates and is far from real-life. Real life has equipment and heavy computerized electronics which make most of these facts null and void. If you knew anything about attack choppers you wouldnt have made that point. Thus proving your knowledge.

Everyone who wants to learn how to fight in choppers, read on...  as I explained. This is what I wanted to see in my gunners. I also wanted to read what others wanted in their pilots and/or gunners.

If you dont have anything useful to add, continue to be a useless gunner and get out of my chopper.

Last edited by DeZwarteMaan (2006-09-27 17:20:37)

Des.Kmal wrote:

Lol, Im guessing you like to solo chopper?

Not at all. I have only recently tried solo flight. Damn hard to do for someone old as me and with glasses. I leave solo for the younger generation who think its wickedly kewl. I say kudos for having the skill to fly a TV into a chopper across the map and then save your chopper before it hits the mountain.

I think that its a waste of a good chopoper because you are still only 1/2 as effective. I prefer a damn good gunner who can hit a moving chopper or slow moving plane from across the map, while I am concentrating on keeping us alive.

I'm a damn good gunner. I've killed nearly a Score of planes and uncounted number of choppers with TV's. I can line up TV shots that even newbies can get shots on choppers doing a power spiral dive to evade my missiles.

I am NOT the best, but I am damn good. heck, now that I have my expert and medal, I am going back to the planes. I have 2500 kills and 30ish hours of Aviation to get before 2142 comes out....