Bf2142 is more "tactic" than "twitch"

2006-10-11 10:47:52

#1

Talon: Stop reading this and look at my post; +341|7202

First of all, I'm not complaining. I love 2142.

Many people are posting/complaining about the fact they that now lose one-on-one infantry battles, even though they started shooting. The reason for this is that infantry combat has changed. BF2 was about having fast reactions. Generally, two people would meet, go prone, and shoot. The faster one would win. Many of you formerly fast people struggle to do this now with the new delays and lower weapon accuracy. 2142 is geared much more towards defending and ambushing, as it takes longer to kill people. Rushing headlong into an enemy base no longer works, as a defending support will mow you down.

Also, I estimate that about 3/4 of people here play primarily Karkand/Sharqi. Thos maps are the "twitchiest" of all.

All I can say is get used to it or go back to BF2.

2006-10-11 10:49:14

#2

irok100: Member; +114|7092

i like it honestly.. other than the breathing of the sniper rifles... at least will help to eliminate all of those n00b snipers

2006-10-11 10:54:16

#3

Lucien: Fantasma Parastasie; +1,451|7095

Talon wrote:
First of all, I'm not complaining. I love 2142.

Many people are posting/complaining about the fact they that now lose one-on-one infantry battles, even though they started shooting. The reason for this is that infantry combat has changed. BF2 was about having fast reactions. Generally, two people would meet, go prone, and shoot. The faster one would win. Many of you formerly fast people struggle to do this now with the new delays and lower weapon accuracy. 2142 is geared much more towards defending and ambushing, as it takes longer to kill people. Rushing headlong into an enemy base no longer works, as a defending support will mow you down.

Also, I estimate that about 3/4 of people here play primarily Karkand/Sharqi. Thos maps are the "twitchiest" of all.

All I can say is get used to it or go back to BF2.

twitchy? no tactics? prone?

You, maybe.

2006-10-11 11:01:52

#4

Bilco: Member; +3|7116|Northamptonshire UK

Hopefully it will seperate the men from the boys, shame there are hacks out for it already.

2006-10-11 11:08:12

#5

millhous: Member; +39|7079|OREEGONE, USA

IMO, infantry combat took a giant leap backwards compared to BF2. BF2's infantry combat used to be fluid before 1.4 but its still a million times better then 2142. This game is an arcade FPS. Its not supposed to be a real life strategy sim.

Theirs nothing exciting about waiting prone for 5 minutes just to ambush 1 or 2 guys. It makes no sense. And the sheer fact that you have to UNLOCK grenades just so you can clear out the enemy support murders alleys in the Titan is just sad. Even with laying prone, the accuracy on most of the weapons are so bad anyway that even if you get the jump on another player, they'll still have no problem evening the playing field by going prone and shooting back. If your against more that 1 player, your totally screwed.

This is supposed to take place in the future right? How come the weapons are shittier than the ones in BF2. I guess I can't blame EA/Dice for trying to expand their market to busy soccer moms and little pre-schoolers.

2006-10-11 11:18:32

#6

MuseSeeker: 2142 Soldier: Behenaut; +110|7217|EUR

Because the weapons had to be packed with more firepower to get passed the improved body armour. Thus losing accuracy of course.

+ your opinion is very one sided, people complain about accuracy yet I can shoot fine. Looks like they are the 'pre-schoolers' who whine just because they cant be assed to get use to a gun.

2006-10-11 11:23:04

#7

spray_and_pray: Member; +52|6933|Perth. Western Australia

fuck why do people bitch about gun accuracy gimme a SCAR 11 and ill show you how Powerful and Accurate it is it will only take it 3-4 shots the the chest/head region to kill someone. Ive taken out people 5 to 1 on me in those so called Titan suicide hallways simply using a Assault rifle and a Pistol. Those that bitch about the weapons being shit get a life theyre perfectly good and maybe you should overview your own skills.

2006-10-11 11:52:42

#8

Dex Luther: Member; +32|6880|Canukastan

In BF2 I hate going prone. For me it's all about the CTRL button. Crouch, shoot, run.

Probably explains why my stats suck.

The infantry change in 2142 frustrated me in the beginning. I didn't get why someone that SHOULD have been dead killed me, but it's all good. I just focus on sticking with my squad (which is hard when the squad itself doesn't stick together).

2006-10-11 11:54:42

#9

stryyker: bad touch; +1,682|7162|California

ffs just get better, problem solved.

2006-10-11 14:44:16

#10

starman7: Member; +15|7167

Hey... I've managed to mow down a few in Titan corridors without the machine guns.
And I think Titans are skewed in favor of defenders, especially since the only two classes which can really do crap about the reactor (Engies with rockets and recons with C-7, and you don't even have C-7 in the demo), are the least effective in infantry combat (Assault can heal itself and has a nice AR, support can lay down a wall of fire).

2006-10-11 15:27:18

#11

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6910

Well I can still get by on my twitch. And my K in the demo is better than anyone else I have seen.

and if the infantry sucks than I would like to say do not worry as the vehicals are way more fun. hover tanks FTW!

2006-10-11 15:38:07

#12

burton: Member; +9|6862|Da Bay, California

whats FTW!! ?

2006-10-11 15:42:13

#13

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7217|Noizyland

It is definatly more team-based, at least that's what EA/Dice are trying for. you're not meant to attack alone, you're ment to have the help of your squad mates. If you want to be a lone wolf, you'll need unlocks so you can be self-sufficient.
Confrontations are 'faster' in BF2, that dosn't necessarily mean it's 'twitchy' it just means the guns are more powerful so confrontations are over quicker. In either case, you want to be the one who fires first. My tip for 2142 is to not fire as soon as you see someone, but to wait until you're sure you can have an assured kill. Until then, (if the enemy havn't seen you,) don't give away your position. Unlocks are great for getting confirmed kills, whether it's skillfully timing a rocket explosion or using Active Camo to get to the perfect position for a kill.

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2006-10-11 15:47:00

#14

Miller: IT'S MILLER TIME!; +271|7198|United States of America

Ty wrote:
It is definatly more team-based, at least that's what EA/Dice are trying for. you're not meant to attack alone, you're ment to have the help of your squad mates. If you want to be a lone wolf, you'll need unlocks so you can be self-sufficient.
Confrontations are 'faster' in BF2, that dosn't necessarily mean it's 'twitchy' it just means the guns are more powerful so confrontations are over quicker. In either case, you want to be the one who fires first. My tip for 2142 is to not fire as soon as you see someone, but to wait until you're sure you can have an assured kill. Until then, (if the enemy havn't seen you,) don't give away your position. Unlocks are great for getting confirmed kills, whether it's skillfully timing a rocket explosion or using Active Camo to get to the perfect position for a kill.

This helped me defending the titan. Though the support weapon overheats so quickly, I do like how it gets more accurate as you fire, and can your shots go through a dead enemy like they can in bf2?

2006-10-11 15:47:26

#15

Brasso: member; +1,549|7072

Talon wrote:
Also, I estimate that about 3/4 of people here play primarily Karkand/Sharqi. Thos maps are the "twitchiest" of all.

I play Wake and I still hate 2142.

"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"

2006-10-11 16:32:06

#16

MuseSeeker: 2142 Soldier: Behenaut; +110|7217|EUR

Why do you hate it? Whats it done to you?

2006-10-11 16:46:27

#17

Zefar: Member; +116|7091|Sweden

burton wrote:
whats FTW!! ?

For The Win.

Anyway now you can't really solo with something and own with it like in BF2.

2006-10-11 17:22:36

#18

Volatile: Member; +252|7146|Sextupling in Empire

millhous wrote:
....And the sheer fact that you have to UNLOCK grenades just so you can clear out the enemy support murders alleys in the Titan is just sad.

Try the sniper rifle. You can clear out anyone that is lying prone and not moving quite easily with a quick headshot. Actually, many times have I cleared 3-4 people out of a corridor that were just lying prone trying to shoot at me.

2006-10-12 04:40:39

#19

.:XDR:.PureFodder: Member; +105|7271

millhous wrote:
IMO, infantry combat took a giant leap backwards compared to BF2. BF2's infantry combat used to be fluid before 1.4 but its still a million times better then 2142. This game is an arcade FPS. Its not supposed to be a real life strategy sim.

Theirs nothing exciting about waiting prone for 5 minutes just to ambush 1 or 2 guys. It makes no sense. And the sheer fact that you have to UNLOCK grenades just so you can clear out the enemy support murders alleys in the Titan is just sad. Even with laying prone, the accuracy on most of the weapons are so bad anyway that even if you get the jump on another player, they'll still have no problem evening the playing field by going prone and shooting back. If your against more that 1 player, your totally screwed.

This is supposed to take place in the future right? How come the weapons are shittier than the ones in BF2. I guess I can't blame EA/Dice for trying to expand their market to busy soccer moms and little pre-schoolers.

Has EA released two different versions of the demo? I've sat on the back of our teams Titan once the shield goes down, stuck the scar-11 over the side and started plugging the infantry on the ground no problems. I believe it's called single shot mode. Sure the smg sprays everywhere, but so does the mp7 and p90 on full auto.

2006-10-12 04:43:16

#20

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE: oh hai :D; +156|7093|The Netherlands

i stay with bf2

2006-10-12 09:42:51

#21

asbad: Member; +19|7163|Ireland

I find it hard to understand why the "Bf2142 haters" still read the 2142 forum. Havent you people vented enough anger into the other threads?

2006-10-12 09:46:12

#22

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6910

millhous wrote:
IMO, infantry combat took a giant leap backwards compared to BF2. BF2's infantry combat used to be fluid before 1.4 but its still a million times better then 2142. This game is an arcade FPS. Its not supposed to be a real life strategy sim.

Theirs nothing exciting about waiting prone for 5 minutes just to ambush 1 or 2 guys. It makes no sense. And the sheer fact that you have to UNLOCK grenades just so you can clear out the enemy support murders alleys in the Titan is just sad. Even with laying prone, the accuracy on most of the weapons are so bad anyway that even if you get the jump on another player, they'll still have no problem evening the playing field by going prone and shooting back. If your against more that 1 player, your totally screwed.

This is supposed to take place in the future right? How come the weapons are shittier than the ones in BF2. I guess I can't blame EA/Dice for trying to expand their market to busy soccer moms and little pre-schoolers.

Whiny ex-dolphine diver, I know its hard to play without using exploits, its really hard.

2006-10-12 09:48:06

#23

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6910

haffeysucks wrote:
Talon wrote:
Also, I estimate that about 3/4 of people here play primarily Karkand/Sharqi. Thos maps are the "twitchiest" of all.
I play Wake and I still hate 2142.

Sorry about duel posts but;

The reason you hate 2142 and love Wake is because there is no longer an unkillable vehical like wake's J-10 for you to whore.

2006-10-12 09:58:16

#24

TheDarkRaven: ATG's First Disciple; +263|7066|Birmingham, UK

Ty wrote:
It is definatly more team-based, at least that's what EA/Dice are trying for. you're not meant to attack alone, you're ment to have the help of your squad mates. If you want to be a lone wolf, you'll need unlocks so you can be self-sufficient.
Confrontations are 'faster' in BF2, that dosn't necessarily mean it's 'twitchy' it just means the guns are more powerful so confrontations are over quicker. In either case, you want to be the one who fires first. My tip for 2142 is to not fire as soon as you see someone, but to wait until you're sure you can have an assured kill. Until then, (if the enemy havn't seen you,) don't give away your position. Unlocks are great for getting confirmed kills, whether it's skillfully timing a rocket explosion or using Active Camo to get to the perfect position for a kill.

I couldn't agree more. Yet, a lot of people don't seem to understand and I'll have a full squad with (usually) only one helpful guy in it, possibly two. We can't go on like this - surely?

2006-10-12 10:22:14

#25

Zukabazuka: Member; +23|7127

The demo has a lot of noobs running around, was the same with BF2 so right now under the demo you might need to TK to even be able to heal yourself because those friking medics belive they can heal you by standing close to you >_>

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