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Maybe for Conquest, but come Titan? Hell, I am holed up real good in them titan guns, with the titan in range of 3 or 4 silos, I can manage to defend all of them, especially with the old commander screen swap trick

Scatter fire rocks you.

BF2 commanders know what is going on on THEIR forntline, not the rest of the team

*edit* typo

Last edited by Eugefunk84 (2006-10-24 02:29:37)

I completly agree with you here Bernadictus

Now that in 2142, the Squad Leaders get more power to command, should Commanders
be allowed to participate in battle?

Commanders are of far better value in a L5-Riesig near the front line, than hiding underneath a roof on the other side of the map.

Yes, but the commander can also make sure that no one is taking the flag closest to the enemy flag, eg Camp Gibraltar.. This is a straight line map.. If you/commander is staying between the first and second flag on pac side you will get an overview of the area between there.. Now, help those other with spoting the enemy, while you are scaning the map for enemy to see if someone is on that open area... Now you can just run after them without they knowing it..

Also.. The commander should have an mic to help the squads that is there...

Conquest commanders should command and defend the flag nearest the the homebase.
Titan commanders should be able to defend one silo with the titan guns and at thesame time have his team pod out to other silos.

daffytag: The best time to use EMP strikes, IMO, is on enemy flyers just after they capture a flag/silo.  When the EMP hits the flyer as they are taking of, you're almost certain to get a couple of kills as the flyer crashes.

Back on topic,  I think that  commanders *still* do their best work when they are in the command screen the bulk of the time, which makes them unsuitable to be on the front lines. Usually, I find, when commanders are able to go into the field and achieve objectives themselves, it's because there aren't enough squads or the squads aren't doing what they're told.

Keep in mind my comments relate to situations on large, or at least, medium maps.

When you think about it, with the 2142 system giving bonus points for successful completion of objectives, it behooves the commander to concentrate on observing the battle and giving appropriate orders. Of course, on a Titan map, the commander at first should amuse himself on the titan guns.

I take your point, Bernadictus, but what you seem to be describing is a situation where you are spending the bulk of your command resources to assist a single squad, which apart from being somewhat unfair to the other squads, on the large maps, you cannot possibly see what's happening on the whole battlefield from the point of view of a single squad. Further, a well targeted orbital strike or a coordinated counter attack could wipe out the "A" squad and the commander in one go, which destroys the effective command structure in one go.

Besides, a commander who functions essentially as a squad's 7th member is likely in incur the ire of the other members of the team, and while perhaps he may not care about that, incessant mutiny votes and increasing disobedience by the team will likely lead to a headache and a loss.

Oh, and lastly, I don't think squads operating near you get bonuses. They get bonus points for squad activities near objectives, but I don't think the commander has a bonus radius around him. I could be wrong, of course about this last one.

spawnofthemist wrote:

Flasheart88 wrote:

Oh, and lastly, I don't think squads operating near you get bonuses. They get bonus points for squad activities near objectives, but I don't think the commander has a bonus radius around him. I could be wrong, of course about this last one.

i think you are wrong about this as i was running around with my squads as commander on Camp Gibraltar and was getting Commander Bonuses when squads were killing enemies around me. when i moved away i stopped getting these bonuses.

Well, that's interesting, but I'm not sure if that's connected - I've been commander many times in the Titan maps, and I see "Commander bonus" when I'm still on the Titan (and no one has boarded) - I think it's people just carrying out orders properly, regardless of your location. It just happened in your case that your squad were killing baddies and helping each other near their objective. I think the commander bonus is what everyone on the team gets when people claim the objectives they are told to claim. Further, I've been commanding while defending the titan, and been in a corridor with people killing and dying all around, and the commander bonus  message wasn't appearing continuously.

I don't think it's down to proximity.

When i'm the titan commander, i don't play on the frontlines much, if  at all. It's just my style and has nothing much to do with the commander ethic. As titan commander i'm usually spotting out any infantry or vehicle in the vicinity of my fellow team mates, and that helps them out especially when taking silos. Also, i like moving the titan near silos in order to provide support and defense of them. i got 16 kills just covering the silos in the sidi power plant map with the titan guns! Plus, if you're engineer you just quickly repair the gun and kill the guy who just destroyed your gun