Well, there's so many of them.Executiator wrote:
Actually, more people speak fluent English in China than the entire Western Hemisphere...lowing wrote:
No they came to the largest English speaking country in the world.VspyVspy wrote:
You do live in one of the biggest Spanish speaking countries in the world dude................
Most of them are cool though... Excluding Kim Jong.PspRpg-7 wrote:
Well, there's so many of them.Executiator wrote:
Actually, more people speak fluent English in China than the entire Western Hemisphere...lowing wrote:
No they came to the largest English speaking country in the world.
Half of them also speaks spanish so prepare for an invasion next world series.PspRpg-7 wrote:
Well, there's so many of them.Executiator wrote:
Actually, more people speak fluent English in China than the entire Western Hemisphere...lowing wrote:
No they came to the largest English speaking country in the world.
I hear they love Chevy trucks
Actually most of the immigrants who sailed under that quote were Irish and Itallians and were hated by the 'natives' as much as any immigrant now is. It all amounts to Xenophobia and the fear of being 'taken over' by immigrants.lowing wrote:
Great post.........However, I am not afraid of being "taken over".........I am pissed at the complete and utter lack of respect and indifference this new wave of immigrants show their newly adopted country.
Also the immigrants that sailed in under the quote on the Statue of Liberty, did, in fact, become citizens, learned the language and became AMERICANS.
Miller, I'm not even sure if you read my post. If you are going to a debate tomorrow, make sure you listen to what the other guy is saying. Your point is void, saying that all adverts must be in english or shipped off the other channels in which they speak something else just helps the segrigation, which in turn dosn't help anyone.
As Marco and I have both said, English may be the 'official' language, it has been for many many years it is by no means "the language of the nation." There is no such thing.
Lastly, BigmacK, I don't know where you got those 'laws' for immigration into Mexico. Most of them arn't true and the others either apply only to forgeiners, (e.g. not immigrants,) or are laws which are almost unanimous around the world.
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Aw, come on, they're just trying to sell chebbies to the current and former ball players.
Ease up, fellas.
Ease up, fellas.
Are you kidding me? Just becuase i beleive our commercials should be in english (our national language) makes me a RaCIST? a racist would be saying that Mexicans are a lesser being than us, deserve less. i dont say that!. what im saying is that this is america. WHERE WE SPEAK ENGLISH. if they want spanish chevy ads. DO IT in a DECLARED spanish speaking country. not one where we ahve a large population.JP3 wrote:
Actually, I think this post combined with your first, pretty much seals the deal. You sir, are officially a racist. Here's your membership card, your white hood, and your horse. Cross burnings are ever third thursday of each month, and if show your member card at Urban Outfitters they'll give you 20% off all housewares.Naughty_Om wrote:
Wow, this has NOTHING to do with RACE. it has everything to do with the fact that A. we live IN FUCKING AMERICA B. Congress JUST DECLARED english, the LANGUAGE of the nation. C. IF they want to run spanish ADS RUN THEM in spanish speaking countries. D. Chevy just contradicted themselves. E. i understood it, and i was offended by it. E. im not racist.Ty wrote:
It's amazing how people kid themselves how tolerant they are.
We have ads in Maori here. My school qualification certificate was in Maori, and most Maori don't speak Maori!
You get over it. It dosn't matter. It's just a show that they are diverse.
Why are you pissed off by this? It's an ad you can't understand, Hell, MOST ads I don't understand. Did you know that Chevy didn't just sell their cars to english-speaking Americans? Yeah! Shock horror! There's nothing wrong with advertising in the language of the minority. Sure you want get the message from the ad heir running, that's the company's loss, why be outraged? The fact that a simple thing like an ad can awaken such anger in you suggests that, (and I don't want to use this word,) you are incredibly racist.
I am honestly disgusted.
Wont...Make...Profiling...Comment...RoofusMcDoofus wrote:
Aw, come on, they're just trying to sell chebbies to the current and former ball players.
Ease up, fellas.
Never said they were loved, but did they or did they NOT become Americans, build businesses and/or contribute to society??Ty wrote:
Actually most of the immigrants who sailed under that quote were Irish and Itallians and were hated by the 'natives' as much as any immigrant now is. It all amounts to Xenophobia and the fear of being 'taken over' by immigrants.lowing wrote:
Great post.........However, I am not afraid of being "taken over".........I am pissed at the complete and utter lack of respect and indifference this new wave of immigrants show their newly adopted country.
Also the immigrants that sailed in under the quote on the Statue of Liberty, did, in fact, become citizens, learned the language and became AMERICANS.
Miller, I'm not even sure if you read my post. If you are going to a debate tomorrow, make sure you listen to what the other guy is saying. Your point is void, saying that all adverts must be in english or shipped off the other channels in which they speak something else just helps the segrigation, which in turn dosn't help anyone.
As Marco and I have both said, English may be the 'official' language, it has been for many many years it is by no means "the language of the nation." There is no such thing.
Lastly, BigmacK, I don't know where you got those 'laws' for immigration into Mexico. Most of them arn't true and the others either apply only to forgeiners, (e.g. not immigrants,) or are laws which are almost unanimous around the world.
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Read as above Naughty_Om. English is the 'official' language of the USA, every country has an official language. It is not english is the language of the naton, it does not mean AMERICA IS ENGLISH SPEAKING ONLY, it means that the majority of the country speak english. Nothing else. It implies no necessity to speak english to be American, so your arguments that everything shold be in english because english is the official language is void.
Edit: Iowing your concern is that Immigrants today won't become American. What's to say they won't? Sure some will stay in their own culture and community, but so did the Irish and Itallians and other immigrants of the past for a long time, some still do. It takes time, but that being said, it is no reaon to refuse any accommodation.
Edit: Iowing your concern is that Immigrants today won't become American. What's to say they won't? Sure some will stay in their own culture and community, but so did the Irish and Itallians and other immigrants of the past for a long time, some still do. It takes time, but that being said, it is no reaon to refuse any accommodation.
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Most countries are took over by so hostil military action. Which is not happening here. The qoute deals with another country taking over a another country without using any military at all. That what it means, anyway you are right though.Miller wrote:
Lies, go to the prisons and check how many inmates are illegals, don't tell me shots haven't been fired. Even in his metaphorical terms, shots have been fired. Why? We have liberals deciding illegals are fun. The one place I don't agree with Bush on is illegal immigration, and as if it's not enough, we are letting these people get work free, for breaking the law, and rewarding them way too much. If we raise the minimum wage, guess who comes in? ILLEGALS!!! YAY!!! As if inflation isn't bad enough also.wedge3382 wrote:
Can't remember who said it, but a wish man once said our country would took over without a single shot ever being fired.
Yes they do. I won't pretend to know anything about Japan, but Korea not only shows ads in English but has an entire television station with 100% English programming. And it's not AFN, either. If you doubt the weight of its existence, consider that the station was created and is run by the national government. A percentage of the proceeds from every single advertisement that airs on Korean television goes toward the funding of that channel. That's how much of an appreciation the national government has for a non-native language. And this is KOREA we're talking about here. where literally 99.7% of the population is racially homogeneous. Not to mention Korea's incredible insularity and xenophobia, which anyone who's been there knows rivals any other country on earth. Even Korea understands that in this world, you either get multilingual or you fall behind. It's as simple as that.lowing wrote:
I have no idea since the only other countries I have been to are Korea and Okinawa, Japan. Do they show commercials in in English, where English is NOT the language of the land??
Come on Lowing - are you really using Korea and Japan as the benchmarks for American society? Does America really have a lot to learn from the two most racially homogeneous countries on the planet? Were you one of those guys who on your days off would just walk up the street to the Itaewon McDonalds, get drunk at the juicy bars on hooker hill, and then stumble back?
이 같은 찡찡 거리는 쉐끼가 다른 나라사람 너무 싫어서 위화에게도 겁쟁이다. 어우 재수 없다.
Illegal immigrants are the ones I hate. Just speak english, that's all I ask. I'm not catering to someone who wont take the time to speak my language. If I were to move to Mexico, I'd learn spanish *SHOCK HORROR GASP*
Who's Kim Jong?Miller wrote:
Most of them are cool though... Excluding Kim Jong.PspRpg-7 wrote:
Well, there's so many of them.Executiator wrote:
Actually, more people speak fluent English in China than the entire Western Hemisphere...
Please tell me you mean somebody other than Kim Jong Il, and that you do understand the difference between China and Korea. Please.
I KNEW something was wrong with his statement.The_Shipbuilder wrote:
Who's Kim Jong?Miller wrote:
Most of them are cool though... Excluding Kim Jong.PspRpg-7 wrote:
Well, there's so many of them.
Please tell me you mean somebody other than Kim Jong Il, and that you do understand the difference between China and Korea. Please.
St. Louislowing wrote:
The WORLD SERIES!!!!!!...IS NOTHING SACRID ANYMORE???
Eckstein
Duncan
Pujole
Edmonds
Rolen
Encarnacion
Belliard
Molina
Taguchi
Wilson
Detroit
Granderson
Monroe
Polanco
Ordonez
Guillen
Rodriguez
Casey
Inge
Santiago a-Thames,
Perez
Here are the names of the game 3 teams and it looks as though there is a lot of Spanish names in the World (cough) Series.
So you watched a game of sport in which a large % of players have a Spanish background and you're pissed and amazed there was an ad in Spanish!!!!!!!!??
roflVspyVspy wrote:
St. Louislowing wrote:
The WORLD SERIES!!!!!!...IS NOTHING SACRID ANYMORE???
Eckstein
Duncan
Pujole
Edmonds
Rolen
Encarnacion
Belliard
Molina
Taguchi
Wilson
Detroit
Granderson
Monroe
Polanco
Ordonez
Guillen
Rodriguez
Casey
Inge
Santiago a-Thames,
Perez
Here are the names of the game 3 teams and it looks as though there is a lot of Spanish names in the World (cough) Series.
So you watched a game of sport in which a large % of players have a Spanish background and you're pissed and amazed there was an ad in Spanish!!!!!!!!??
I know the difference, but I was putting in Asia as a whole, nnot just China.PspRpg-7 wrote:
I KNEW something was wrong with his statement.The_Shipbuilder wrote:
Who's Kim Jong?Miller wrote:
Most of them are cool though... Excluding Kim Jong.
Please tell me you mean somebody other than Kim Jong Il, and that you do understand the difference between China and Korea. Please.
and how many of those players are NOT American citizens????????Chou wrote:
roflVspyVspy wrote:
St. Louislowing wrote:
The WORLD SERIES!!!!!!...IS NOTHING SACRID ANYMORE???
Eckstein
Duncan
Pujole
Edmonds
Rolen
Encarnacion
Belliard
Molina
Taguchi
Wilson
Detroit
Granderson
Monroe
Polanco
Ordonez
Guillen
Rodriguez
Casey
Inge
Santiago a-Thames,
Perez
Here are the names of the game 3 teams and it looks as though there is a lot of Spanish names in the World (cough) Series.
So you watched a game of sport in which a large % of players have a Spanish background and you're pissed and amazed there was an ad in Spanish!!!!!!!!??
rofl x 2elvis wrote:
and how many of those players are NOT American citizens????????Chou wrote:
roflVspyVspy wrote:
St. Louis
Eckstein
Duncan
Pujole
Edmonds
Rolen
Encarnacion
Belliard
Molina
Taguchi
Wilson
Detroit
Granderson
Monroe
Polanco
Ordonez
Guillen
Rodriguez
Casey
Inge
Santiago a-Thames,
Perez
Here are the names of the game 3 teams and it looks as though there is a lot of Spanish names in the World (cough) Series.
So you watched a game of sport in which a large % of players have a Spanish background and you're pissed and amazed there was an ad in Spanish!!!!!!!!??
Hey threadstarter.. get the picture?
LOL , I am the thread starter, the admin geek squad I guess decided to erase my account...so now, answer my question....Chou wrote:
rofl x 2elvis wrote:
and how many of those players are NOT American citizens????????Chou wrote:
rofl
Hey threadstarter.. get the picture?
"language of the land"? and exactly which amendment to the Constitution specifies that English is the official language of the United States? I just don't understand why you're shitting your pants over a commercial? If a Mexican immigrant can affort to buy a brand new, $35k truck, then I think they're doin' ok, and succeeding in our nation. they have to pay taxes on the vehicle, they have to register the vehicle, they have to buy gas, what's your problem?lowing wrote:
Be disgusted all you want...........It doesn't compare to the disgust I have for immigrants, legal and illegal, that come here and don't even bother to learn the language of the land. Instead they EXPECT US to accommodate them!
"...they EXPECT US to accommidate them!" WE ARE NOT ACCOMIDATING THEM, GENERAL MOTORS IS. Know who buys chevys? Mexicans. Know who likes baseball? Mexicans. If GM wants to sell trucks to Mexican immigrants, good for them, someone has to buy their shit.
Ever generation of white people seems to forget how this immigration thing works. Immigrants come to this country, Immigrants live in ethnically dominated areas i.e. Little Italy, China town, the barrio. The immigrants have kids. In order to function in the sucessful, anglo world, the kids learn english, adopt American values of consumerism, obesity, and general Ignorance of the rest of the world. Rince and repeat.
This is how it has always been.
Now, if you wanna show me pictures of Mexicans waving Mexican flags on American streets we can get pissed off together.
Like hell we forget.Reciprocity wrote:
Ever generation of white people seems to forget how this immigration thing works.
Now, if you wanna show me pictures of Mexicans waving Mexican flags on American streets we can get pissed off together.
The Mexicans are gate crashers, thats all. Tell me what cities existed in the States that were founded by Mexicans? I mean, theres got to be a few.
And as for the pix you asked for, notice its a California license plate on the truck, shit that wasn't even hard.
From this years " Day without a immigrant" protests in Los Angeles.
I'll be waiting for your anger.
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http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004869.htmReciprocity wrote:
"language of the land"? and exactly which amendment to the Constitution specifies that English is the official language of the United States? I just don't understand why you're shitting your pants over a commercial? If a Mexican immigrant can affort to buy a brand new, $35k truck, then I think they're doin' ok, and succeeding in our nation. they have to pay taxes on the vehicle, they have to register the vehicle, they have to buy gas, what's your problem?lowing wrote:
Be disgusted all you want...........It doesn't compare to the disgust I have for immigrants, legal and illegal, that come here and don't even bother to learn the language of the land. Instead they EXPECT US to accommodate them!
"...they EXPECT US to accommidate them!" WE ARE NOT ACCOMIDATING THEM, GENERAL MOTORS IS. Know who buys chevys? Mexicans. Know who likes baseball? Mexicans. If GM wants to sell trucks to Mexican immigrants, good for them, someone has to buy their shit.
Ever generation of white people seems to forget how this immigration thing works. Immigrants come to this country, Immigrants live in ethnically dominated areas i.e. Little Italy, China town, the barrio. The immigrants have kids. In order to function in the sucessful, anglo world, the kids learn english, adopt American values of consumerism, obesity, and general Ignorance of the rest of the world. Rince and repeat.
This is how it has always been.
Now, if you wanna show me pictures of Mexicans waving Mexican flags on American streets we can get pissed off together.
I have NO problems with mexicans/etc speaking spanish. In their homes, neighborhoods and the like. But when my grandparents came to Americans the were Americans FIRST then Italians second. Now, people believe that they are Mexican first, and american second. My grandfather would of been ashamed to see his culture catered too.Ty wrote:
"Give me your tired, your poor,lowing wrote:
Be disgusted all you want...........It doesn't compare to the disgust I have for immigrants, legal and illegal, that come here and don't even bother to learn the language of the land. Instead they EXPECT US to accommodate them!
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free."
Wow. How very noble. Shame it isn't true any more, I'm not even sure if it ever was.
Why can't you accomodate them? What is the matter with an advertisement in another language here, or an episode of miming what you want from a spanish-speaking store owner? What does it matter, in fact it adds a bit of interest to life.
You see America as your country which is justified, yet your vision of an American is someone who speaks english. That is the prinicple characteristic as I understand it for the purposes of this debate. Each country has an official language, but include a few others for good measure. you ca only have one official language of course, but in the Encyclopaedia Geographica the US lists about six 'other' languages. Spanish is at the top of that list. That would lead me to believe that somone who speaks something other than english is still an American.
Chopped it here for the sake of ascetic values
How about Los Angeles, for one, before we stole California and the rest of the West coast. And probaby any major city in Texas was founded when Texas still belonged to Mexico.ATG wrote:
Tell me what cities existed in the States that were founded by Mexicans? I mean, theres got to be a few.
That does piss me off. I don't wanna see Mexican waving Mexican flags in the Unites States. I understand that their flag is a symbol of their latin american pride, but they need to find another symbol, it's just rude. I wouldn't immigrate to Finnland and run around waving an American flag.ATG wrote:
And as for the pix you asked for, notice its a California license plate on the truck, shit that wasn't even hard.
From this years " Day without a immigrant" protests in Los Angeles.
http://i14.tinypic.com/4i1fho4.jpg
I'll be waiting for your anger.
I didn't see the commercial in question. Was there a giant Mexican flag waving in the backround and a chihuahua singing the Mexican National Anthem?
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