SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|7084|The darkside of Denver
Ok. i have some Logitech z5300 surround speakers for my rig. I have recently moved into a new apartment and my neighbor below me complains all the time about the noise; i know its the bass because the volume on teh speakers is relatively low. Does anyone here know a good way to lessen the bass vibration without turning down the base? some time of platform or something? The sub woofer is on the floor next to my rig. Any suggestions?

Last edited by <SS>SonderKommando (2006-10-22 11:25:02)

ShotYourSix
Boldly going nowhere...
+196|7143|Las Vegas
First off.  Get it off the floor.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7175|Chicago.
You can do one of two things.

1) Get some thick felt pads to place under the speaker. This should dampen the bass thump enough to help stop the complaints.

2) Place the speaker somewhere elevated.

The choice is yours.
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|7084|The darkside of Denver
Where can i get said felt pads??
Leprechaun56
Proud Infantry Whore
+31|7008|U.S.A
well mine is on the soft carpet, and i stell get yelled at.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6911|Melbourne

Why is it better to have it off the floor?
I have mine on carpet to.  Also is it possible to stop the crackling sound coming from the speakers?  its not very lound and you cant hear when theres sound but if theres no sound its anoying.

Any ideas?
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Leprechaun56
Proud Infantry Whore
+31|7008|U.S.A
Is your system volume up all the way?
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6911|Melbourne

Nope about 20 - 30% but the speaker volume is up full.
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Leprechaun56
Proud Infantry Whore
+31|7008|U.S.A
turn system volume up, and reduce the speakers volume.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6911|Melbourne

Will do Thanks.
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dubbs
Member
+105|7056|Lexington, KY
What are you doing when the neighbors are complaining?  If you are using any media play (WMP, iTunes, VLC) check the eqs and turn down the bass.  If you are playing BF2, check the audio options to see if there is a setting for bass.  I suspect that their is not any.  For the pads that were suggested, you can get them at any craft store.  I know that it is not as nice to look at, but an egg create foam will help reduce the base a lot.

Raven, you may be getting feedback via your mic.  If you blow into the mic, you will most likely hear the crackling sound.  If so either relocate your mic, or the angle of your speaker.  You can also get a headset to reduce/stop this for occurring.  Another thing you can do is adjust how sensitive your mic is in your Control Panel.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6911|Melbourne

K ill check that out to.  Also why is it better to have the Sub of the ground?
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aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7216
The subwoofer makes the floor vibrate, if it's in contact with it, which is why its position doesn't matter.  Raising it off the floor, preferably with some kind of cushioning - felt pads - lessens the vibration and hence the sub's impact.  Low wavelength sounds carry more than higher wavelengths so if your neightbour is complaining about the noise, reducing the bass will have the best effect.

Or you could invest in a good pair of headphones.
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6911|Melbourne

Ah now i get it....
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dubbs
Member
+105|7056|Lexington, KY

R3v4n wrote:

K ill check that out to.  Also why is it better to have the Sub of the ground?
This is a little complicated, but I will explain it the best I can.

Bass sounds the best (crisp and has that thump sound), when a sub woofer is enclosed in a box.  Thus the reason why car stereos that have a lot of bass use a box.  This allows you to "control" the amount of air that is moved by the sub woofer.  By placing your sub on the floor, you are turning your neighbor's apartment into a box like device.  They only hear the vibrations from the bass, since bass is low frequency.  It is sort of like sticking your head in a plastic trash can and having someone high it with a bat.  You feel and hear the bass because the vibrations are stronger to you, where your friend will not because the vibrations dissipate through the air.

Sorry if I did not explain it well.  This is one of those, better experienced then explained.  That and have had only two hours of sleep in the last 24 hours, so I am not thinking clearly.

Last edited by dubbs (2006-10-22 17:06:26)

R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6911|Melbourne

Sweet good explaination.
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SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|7084|The darkside of Denver
Ok. so if i take it up off the ground will i lose any bass? or if i use felt padding?? cause i dunno if any yall have the z5300 or z5500 speakers or not bu the sub pwns and i love having deep bass.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7259|Kubra, Damn it!

None of these methods is really going to have a large impact on what your neighbors hear. Bass wavelengths are very long and travel through solids fairly well. That's why you mainly hear the bass when someone has their car stereo up and the windows closed. You need a decent amount of dense material to block that out, just some egg crates won't do the job. Unfortunately, the best thing you can do is get an EQ to turn down the bass, or buy a ticket to the wonderful world of headphones.
dubbs
Member
+105|7056|Lexington, KY

chittydog wrote:

None of these methods is really going to have a large impact on what your neighbors hear. Bass wavelengths are very long and travel through solids fairly well. That's why you mainly hear the bass when someone has their car stereo up and the windows closed. You need a decent amount of dense material to block that out, just some egg crates won't do the job. Unfortunately, the best thing you can do is get an EQ to turn down the bass, or buy a ticket to the wonderful world of headphones.
I have to say that your first sentence is false.  Foam will reduce the bass, and the total amount of sound that his neighbors will hear.  Have you ever seen the inside of a sound booth at a record label?  They have a lot of foam on the walls, and ceiling. They use a very special type of material at higher end sound booths, that are foamed based, to absorb the sound.  For those just starting up, they glue foam to the walls.

<SS>SonderKommando wrote:

Ok. so if i take it up off the ground will i lose any bass? or if i use felt padding?? cause i dunno if any yall have the z5300 or z5500 speakers or not bu the sub pwns and i love having deep bass.
Sonder, you will not loose any of the bass that you hear.  Raising the sub off the floor will only effect where the sound is coming from for you. 

Depending on the design of your sub, foam padding may effect the sound.  Just from looking at a picture of the your system, it looks as if it would not effect your system.  Some subs will place the sub woofer so that it points to the ground, and has small legs to raise the sub off the ground a little.  These will be effected but you seem safe.

Also, while looking at some sites, they stay that carpet padding is very good at absorbing sound, and is very cheap.  I am for sure you can find a local carpet installer who will give you the scrap material that they can not use.  If you do this at least you have nothing to loose.
chittydog
less busy
+586|7259|Kubra, Damn it!

I've spent time in practice and recording studios, as well as sound-proofed rooms for rehearsal and recording. One of my practice rooms was cheap carpeting (we found it in a dumpster) covering 2" of foam covering 12" of concrete and you could still hear my bass down the street. Long wavelengths travel through solid materials very well. I didn't say foam wouldn't reduce the bass, I said it wouldn't have a large impact. The control room of a studio is relatively quiet, but the dense soundproofing they use in studios is also coupled with denser walls and insulation. An apartment isn't going to be made with those same materials.

Sonder, dubbs is right, you won't lose any of your bass by elevating it. Bass is also unidirectional so you won't really notice it coming from another location. It will reduce a little of what your neighbors hear, but not a lot. Adding the foam will help a little too, but again, not a whole lot. Maybe the combination will be enough for them, but I still think you'll have to turn it down a bit.

Hopefully this works out, man. I'm a bass lover too and good, deep bass sounds freaking awesome in game.
ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
+125|7126
1) Move out of your parents attic. Obviously they get annoyed.....
SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|7084|The darkside of Denver
read my original post man. i just moved out of the attic to an apartment!!!

thanks for all your guy's input!

Last edited by <SS>SonderKommando (2006-10-26 14:09:59)

DankmanHightimes
Member
+24|6924|atlanta GA
an option for lessing the vibs are go to you local audio store and get some dyno-mat..use in car audio installations..cover the bottom in 2 layers of the stuff or a piece of High Density fiberborad form home depot and dyno-mat the board also..


make sure you dont have a downward firing sub or all this may not help that much.. if this is the case try point the sub at you and not the floor( jsut dont put the amp in the carpet)

hope this helps some
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6973|Southeastern USA
bass is omnidirectional, you can put it anywhere without interfering with your "sonic image", you also may want to check out the construction of your place, I'm in an 80 year old building, 3 feet between floors, good thick plaster walls, almost zero noise transfer between my neighbors and myself, except for the "wet wall". Basically a vertical shaft through which the plumbing and steam pipes are run (think matrix "their inside the wall" scene), makes a pretty good conduit for sound. And yes, any kind of soft thick cloth or padding will help decrease the transfer.
evilcartman99
The Octagon
+18|6837|da ville, va
You could also tell your neighbor to suck your nuts, that usually works for the best.

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