BF2S Forums too much of thinking in cqc...

Well I found out that up to distances of lets say 20+ metres a sniper can easily beat an Assault/support/medic, any closer and you will zoom in to much with your sniper so you will have to resort to pistol which you will probably lose.

Last edited by RDMC(2) (2006-10-27 12:10:01)

On karkand as USMC I always spawn at the left side spawn near the TOW, and head out to the road. You'll see a big rock, just sit there and snipe, if you someones coming for you, head for the hills, run back towards friendlys who have bigger guns.

But if you ever find yourself in a CQC situation as a sniper the pistol or knife is the best idea, but I know players (Nyte) who will snipe guys 3 feet away from them, sounds insane but some players really mis-use the sniper kit. But to each man his own.

But as a sniper you should never find yourself in a CQC. Sure it'll happen, but it really shouldn't. Snipeing is a game of distance, not CQC, so if the action gets to close to you, back up to a safer area.

Snipers in Bf2 have some of the best KDR's (Kill Death Ratios) in the game.

I{endo wrote:

any thoughts?

Well first off: 100 hours on Karkand and that's it? Geez, you really need to get out more (in the game sense)

There are whole other worlds out there you haven't experienced. While specialisation in one map does make you quite good at that map broader experience in the game (including familiarity with other classes) will make you a better player generally. Or to put it more simply: if you only play Karkand and sniper you likely won't get as good as you could get if you play a range of other classes on a bunch of other maps.

I see you've discovered no-vehicle mode and you use claymores heavily already so I don't need to mention those.

I{endo wrote:

i've experienced some improvement in game-play by now, the only thing i don't seem to become better is cqc.

Well CQB is one of the trickiest things to do well as sniper but it does remove long-range shooting from the equation so in another respect it simplifies things.

Try to keep your distance and force the enemy to engage you at distances that a sniper rifle is better at and they're relatively handicapped... although, with the limited visibility on Karkand many good players can still hit reliably at close to the limit of visibility with assault rifles and some of the LMGs.

I{endo wrote:

ok. what bugs me out is that if get into ccq, i start to think. way too much. hide? is there uav? back-up? claymore? grenade? knife? etc. and i often end up dead holding the frag, ready to throw. i just can't let go. lol.

Practice and experience will help you develop the right kind of playing reflexes, with the appropriate modifications for BF2.

As far as plans/tactics go, there's an important principle of combat: no plans survives contact with the enemy. This isn't strictly true but it's good to know that you may have to improvise on the spot.

I{endo wrote:

i don't know if acting right is an automatism that will come after a certain amount of game play, or maybe it's just not my thang. i did some "reaction-testing" and that's quite fine.

Try this, see how you do: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/ … rsion5.swf

And if you want to test your mouse-control skills, this one's challenging: http://members.iinet.net.au/~pontipak/redsquare.html

I{endo wrote:

samfink wrote:

as generally karkand snipers don't learn too much.

still, why is that? really curious.

Try getting a running shot on someone 160m away and you have your answer. The dust pall in Karkand really limits snipers from fulfilling one of their key roles which is to take out enemy infantry at ranges they can't engage you at (other than another sniper).

I{endo wrote:

p.s.: excuse my grammar, no native-tongue.

It's fine. Better than the German of 99% of those here I'd bet!

Listen, if you are a sniper and in CQC, you can do a few things...

1) Pull out your pistol and shoot him.  Use ironsights... they make the pistol extremely accurate.  It takes 8 bullets to kill an armor target, and all of them SHOULD hit since your weapon is accurate.  It takes a bit of time to learn where the center of the screen is when in ironsight view.  Aim slightly higher than the top of the weapon with the MEC pistol.  Fire as fast as possible.  If you are lucky, you will get a headshot.

2) Shoot him with the sniper rifle.  This is only for medium range.  After a sniper hit, hit him 3 times with the pistol... it's faster.

3) Run away, put claymore behind the corner.

Last edited by Sh4rkb1t3 (2006-10-27 14:37:48)

trust me,i treidCQC as sniper on wake and soon realised why it is ineffective. the lack of crosshairs means you can't do much unscoped, and so you really neeeda kit with crosshairs, and I'd reccommend medic on karkand. there's usually enouhg idiots getting themself killed that you can get points FAST.

Using karkand as your only map at the begining is really really a huge cripple... All it is now is nade spamming and liniar fighting. Try mastusur or sharqui if you wanna learn it right.. because after you stop going to your noob filled karkand 24/7 your going to be baffled that people can just walk right behind you and kill you in other maps.

Kenshin49 wrote:

King of CQC = Snake

I like the Hide and Seek approach. Find a nice corner on Karkand near a flag somewhere. Claymore just behind the corner, then pop out and take some shots at the oncoming enemy to piss them off. Then pull back behind your corner. When the first guy hits, throw a nade at his dead body for a nice surprise for the medics coming to his rescue. Find a support and if you're lucky you can keep this up. Is it cheap? Yes. Amusing? Yeah.

in general: sniping is all about ambush, that's why there's so much hate
i like your idea. hide and seek, or hit and run? lol. don't even think it's that cheap. who rather waves his knife from a distance to those incoming guys??

Last edited by I{endo (2006-10-29 09:42:54)