ATG
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In your opinion.

He's the least partisan and rhetoric driven talk show host.
I think he's  smart enough. You may not like him, but how does that relate to his intellectual abilities.

Other than getting caught on tape dirty talking I can't think of any major bone headed manuevers.
Care to cite some examples of his stupidity?

Last edited by ATG (2006-10-29 21:53:59)

Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7042|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

ATG wrote:

He should stick to comedy.

He's a typical left wing media idiot ( letterman ). It never ceases to amaze me how people take the words of actors and entertainers as something of value.
true true.

im beginning to like u more and more.

btw. O'Reilly > Letterman
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Phantom2828
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OMFG Letterman PWZORED REILLY!!
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Turquoise
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ATG wrote:

In your opinion.

He's the least partisan and rhetoric driven talk show host.
I think he's  smart enough. You may not like him, but how does that relate to his intellectual abilities.

Other than getting caught on tape dirty talking I can't think of any major bone headed manuevers.
Care to cite some examples of his stupidity?
I won't post all of the relevant examples because there isn't enough space here.  So, here is the most notable one...  O'Reilly vs. Jeremy Glick..  the following is a partial transcript.

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O'REILLY: In the "Personal Stories" segment tonight, we were surprised to find out than an American who lost his father in the World Trade Center attack had signed an anti-war advertisement that accused the USA itself of terrorism. The offending passage read, "We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation ago, Vietnam." With us now is Jeremy Glick, whose father, Barry, was a Port Authority worker at the Trade Center. Mr. Glick is a co-author of the book "Another World is Possible." I'm surprised you signed this. You were the only one of all of the families who signed...

JEREMY GLICK: Well, actually, that's not true.

O'REILLY: Who signed the advertisement?

GLICK: Peaceful Tomorrow, which represents 9/11 families, were also involved.

O'REILLY: Hold it, hold it, hold it, Jeremy. You're the only one who signed this advertisement.

GLICK: As an individual.

O'REILLY: Yes, as -- with your name. You were the only one. I was surprised, and the reason I was surprised is that this ad equates the United States with the terrorists. And I was offended by that.

GLICK: Well, you say -- I remember earlier you said it was a moral equivalency, and it's actually a material equivalency. And just to back up for a second about your surprise, I'm actually shocked that you're surprised. If you think about it, our current president, who I feel and many feel is in this position illegitimately by neglecting the voices of Afro- Americans in the Florida coup, which, actually, somebody got impeached for during the Reconstruction period -- Our current president now inherited a legacy from his father and inherited a political legacy that's responsible for training militarily, economically, and situating geopolitically the parties involved in the alleged assassination and the murder of my father and countless of thousands of others. So I don't see why it's surprising...

O'REILLY: All right. Now let me stop you here. So...

GLICK: ... for you to think that I would come back and want to support...

O'REILLY: It is surprising, and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why it's surprising.

GLICK: ... escalating...

O'REILLY: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal position in this society, which you're entitled to.

GLICK: It's marginal -- right.

O'REILLY: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're -- you see, even -- I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I don't think your father would be approving of this.

GLICK: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency was illegitimate.

O'REILLY: Maybe he did, but...

GLICK: I also didn't think that Bush...

O'REILLY: ... I don't think he'd be equating this country as a terrorist nation as you are.

GLICK: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.

O'REILLY: Yes, you are. You signed...

GLICK: What I'm saying is...

O'REILLY: ... this, and that absolutely said that.

GLICK: ... is that in -- six months before the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing and escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited a hundred thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.

O'REILLY: All right. I don't want to...

GLICK: Maybe...

O'REILLY: I don't want to debate world politics with you.

GLICK: Well, why not? This is about world politics.

O'REILLY: Because, No. 1, I don't really care what you think.

GLICK: Well, OK.

O'REILLY: You're -- I want to...

GLICK: But you do care because you...

O'REILLY: No, no. Look...

GLICK: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11...

O'REILLY: Here's why I care.

GLICK: ... to rationalize...

O'REILLY: Here's why I care...

GLICK: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.

O'REILLY: OK. That's a bunch...

GLICK: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.

O'REILLY: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11 families by their own admission -- I've done more for them than you will ever hope to do.

GLICK: OK.

O'REILLY: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting those people.

GLICK: Well, you're not representing me. You're not representing me.

O'REILLY: And I'd never represent you. You know why?

GLICK: Why?

O'REILLY: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped view of this country.

GLICK: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a parallel...

O'REILLY: No, I'm not going to debate this with you, all right.

GLICK: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience. On September 14...

O'REILLY: No, no. Here's -- here's the...

GLICK: On September 14...

O'REILLY: Here's the record.

GLICK: OK.

O'REILLY: All right. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.

GLICK: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people in Afghanistan...

O'REILLY: Who killed your father!

GLICK: The people in Afghanistan...

O'REILLY: Who killed your father.

GLICK: ... didn't kill my father.

O'REILLY: Sure they did. The al Qaeda people were trained there.

GLICK: The al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?

O'REILLY: See, I'm more angry about it than you are!

GLICK: So what about George Bush?

O'REILLY: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.

GLICK: The director -- senior as director of the CIA.

O'REILLY: He had nothing to do with it.

GLICK: So the people that trained a hundred thousand Mujahadeen who were...

O'REILLY: Man, I hope your mom isn't watching this.

GLICK: Well, I hope she is.

O'REILLY: I hope your mother is not watching this because you -- that's it. I'm not going to say anymore.

GLICK: OK.

O'REILLY: In respect for your father...

GLICK: On September 14, do you want to know what I'm doing?

O'REILLY: Shut up. Shut up.

GLICK: Oh, please don't tell me to shut up.

O'REILLY: As respect -- as respect -- in respect for your father, who was a Port Authority worker, a fine American, who got killed unnecessarily by barbarians...

GLICK: By radical extremists who were trained by this government...

O'REILLY: Out of respect for him...

GLICK: ... not the people of America.

O'REILLY: ... I'm not going to...

GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.

O'REILLY: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore, out of respect for your father. We will be back in a moment with more of THE FACTOR.

GLICK: That means we're done?

O'REILLY: We're done.

_______________________________________________________________________________________

....  I think that's enough evidence by itself that O'Reilly has no interest in discussing things with people.  He's only concerned with turning people's opinions toward his own.  He's not a debator -- just a watered down version of Rush Limbaugh.

That being said, I have no respect for him.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|7070
Why are there 3 pages of discussion on this? Letterman interrupted O'Reilly whenever he tried to speak, just like O'Reilly is famous for doing on his own show. There is no deep, underlying meaning to this, and they weren't engaged in any real political discussion. It was all a joke on a late-night talk show.

Thread over?
CameronPoe
Member
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ATG wrote:

In your opinion.

He's the least partisan and rhetoric driven talk show host.
I think he's  smart enough. You may not like him, but how does that relate to his intellectual abilities.

Other than getting caught on tape dirty talking I can't think of any major bone headed manuevers.
Care to cite some examples of his stupidity?

I got to bail for a few hours, catch you on the flip side. The road calls.
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And yes, to commiechipmunk and Recoil, I will try to crash and die, hppy?
Please ATG. O'Reılly ıs about as partısan as ıt gets. CNN ıs dıabolıcal the other way but to be frank ıf you thınk O'Reılly ıs not partısan then you have some ıssues...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Saddam was the the WMD in Iraq.
What in gods name does that have to do with the price of tea in china, and further more , with the OP original post? FFS yah you got in another cheap shot, You done for today? Sheesh.
Get a grip. They were talking about WMD's in the OP video.
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<BoTM>J_Aero
Qualified Expert
+62|6890|Melbourne - Home of Football

ATG wrote:

From Bill O'Rielly's biography;
Born in Manhattan and raised on Long Island, Bill O'Reilly holds a degree in History from Marist College, a Master's in Broadcast Journalism from Boston University and another Master's Degree in Public Administration from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.
heres what I can find on Letterman;
Letterman attended Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana... He was married to college sweetheart Michelle Cook from 1970-1977... He was once an all-purpose announcer on station WLWI in Indianapolis, a job which included introducing movies and serving as a substitute weatherman.
I'd like to correct an earlier post made by ATG on the careers and official qualifications of Bill O'Reilly and David Letterman.
First of all, we must recognise that an official biography is likely to portray the subject in a manner most agreeable to that subject, and as such, I have used Wikipedia for the independence factor, and will quote the page references at the end. I will also restrict the information provided to institutional education or employment.

Bill O'Reilly:

Graduated Chaminade High School
B.A. (Bachelors) in History from Marist College
Pitcher for Brooklyn Monarchs
Taught English and History at Monsignor Pace High School
M.A. (Masters) from Boston University
Worked for various newspapers and then TV stations including but not limited to:
The Miami Herald, ABC News, CBS's Inside Edition and then the O'Reilly Factor on FOX.
M.A. in Public Administration from Harvard

David Letterman:

Graduated Broad Ripple High School
B.A. in Telecommunications from Ball State University
Worked as a radio talk show host and anchor / weatherman on WLW-I
Began performing stand up comedy and had bit parts in various TV programs
In various incarnations hosted the Late Show



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_O%27R … entator%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Letterman
ATG
Banned
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Well, you are a qualified expert, can't dispute that.




CameronPoe wrote:

Please ATG. O'Reılly ıs about as partısan as ıt gets. CNN ıs dıabolıcal the other way but to be frank ıf you thınk O'Reılly ıs not partısan then you have some ıssues...
Compared to a Rush Limbaugh or a Randy Roads he is almost neutral. He thinks Bill Clinton was a good president. What more nees to be said?
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
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Kmarion wrote:

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Saddam was the the WMD in Iraq.
What in gods name does that have to do with the price of tea in china, and further more , with the OP original post? FFS yah you got in another cheap shot, You done for today? Sheesh.
Get a grip. They were talking about WMD's in the OP video.
Oh crap dude, I posted to the wrong post Sorry bro. My bad. Ill delete.
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK

ATG wrote:

I just wish there was a gun law that let me shoot illegal aliens.
(from another thread)
i dont have to even attack your credibility this quote says it all

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-29 17:47:00)

Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
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Recoil555 wrote:

ATG wrote:

I just wish there was a gun law that let me shoot illegal aliens.
(from another thread)
i dont have to even attack your credibility this quote says it all

Recoil555 wrote:

lol im child because i didnt correct a typo straight away which i did as 10 seconds after i post but you spent time watching the page for an answer like ... like i suppose a child ?
I find it ironic that someone with an 8 year old's mastery of the English language tries to attack someone's credibility. Recoil555, attempting to read and make sense of anything you've posted in this thread has been one major headache. Maybe English isn't your first language, or maybe you really are 8 years old. Either way, it is truly painful trying to read your posts, regardless of any point (or lack there of) you are trying to make. Additionally, the quote you used was intended to be a joke. You'd have to be a complete moron to not see that.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-10-29 18:23:00)

Atakir
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Fancy_Pollux wrote:

You'd have to be a complete moron to not see that.
GotMex?
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I see what the problem is fellas... this should've been posted IN THE JUNK DRAWER. It is pure entertainment at best and has led to no serious debate other than some flaming and personal attacks.
Recoil555
A God Amongst Men
+26|6877|UK
I was over line fancy lol  ...

ATG wrote:

I just wish there was a gun law that let me shoot illegal aliens.
He is aloud to voice that and i cant call him the C word ffs the world has gone bad. Get chuy if you like im not bothered i apoloised to you and to the mod that contacted me so then tried to stop this fight completely and everytime i did you said another silly comment after another. Its blatant who is making up crap about the other and it ain't me i didn't post a random picture or presume anything of you expect that i severely disagree with what you stand for end of.

I am English lol I'm not 8 years old and if you want to see better English then go to gun laws thread and you will see how i can write but WHAT THE FUCK has that got to do with what have to say. If English is all you care about then well why do use the Internet because no only speaks with punctuation in game or mostly on forum because it phatic speech style of write ( aka you emulate how you talk in real life ). So therefore the is no set president for how to speak on the Internet therefore you cannot tell me that my typing is bad its just not using the normal English convention its using my own.

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-10-30 07:30:30)

ATG
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Atakir
Banned
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Recoil555 wrote:

I was over line fancy lol  ...

ATG wrote:

I just wish there was a gun law that let me shoot illegal aliens.
He is aloud to voice that and i cant call him the C word ffs the world has gone bad. Get chuy if you like im not bothered i apoloised to you and to the mod that contacted me so then tried to stop this fight completely and everytime i did you said another silly comment after another. Its blatant who is making up crap about the other and it ain't me i didn't post a random picture or presume anything of you expect that i severely disagree with what you stand for end off.

I am English lol I'm not 8 years old and if you want to see better English then go to gun laws thread and you will see how i can write but WHAT THE FUCK has that got to do with what have to say. If English is all you care about then well why do use the Internet because no only speaks with punctuation in game or mostly on forum because it phatic speech style of write ( aka you emulate how you talk in real life ). So therefore the is no set president for how to speak on the Internet therefore you cannot tell me that my typing is bad its just not using the normal English convention its using my own.
Do you speak like a moron in real life then?
beerface702
Member
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who says we arnt goin to go into NK?

and the simple answer to not going into NK is CHINA


anyway letterman sucks nowdays

the oreily show rules, i love watching him cut dumb libs off
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|7070

Recoil555 wrote:

I am English lol I'm not 8 years old and if you want to see better English then go to gun laws thread and you will see how i can write but WHAT THE FUCK has that got to do with what have to say. If English is all you care about then well why do use the Internet because no only speaks with punctuation in game or mostly on forum because it phatic speech style of write ( aka you emulate how you talk in real life ). So therefore the is no set president for how to speak on the Internet therefore you cannot tell me that my typing is bad its just not using the normal English convention its using my own.

Forum rules wrote:

Use proper spelling, grammar, punctuation, and capitalization to the best of your ability. Failure to do this will result in your posts being taken less seriously, and most likely cause responses to be less than constructive.
Either you're trolling, or just a dumbass. Either way, I think it would be hilarious if you got punished. Everyone report him and let's see if he gets a vacation.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6954|Global Command
He's trampled all over rules
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Just in this thread.
mcminty
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GotMex? wrote:

I see what the problem is fellas... this should've been posted IN THE JUNK DRAWER. It is pure entertainment at best and has led to no serious debate other than some flaming and personal attacks.
I will move it there in an attempt to subdue the flaming and personal attacks.

ATG wrote:

He's trampled all over rules
1
2
3
4
6
10
15

Just in this thread.
I have noted that, and if anyone continues to behave like this, they will be getting a tempban. Ok?

@Recoil - you state that every time you try to end it, and that ATG makes another stupid comment. If that causes you to retaliate, why do you bother to return to this thread? Why do you bother to take the bait? Just leave it.


Mcminty.
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sometimes the bait is just too tasty

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