GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091
Why protest the war in Iraq. Human beings are selfish animals by nature and NOBODY has lost a cunt hairs worth of their quality of life since 2003.  why do i see a bunch of kids waving their signs  in front of recruiting stations and doing protest walks blocking traffic.  I have more respect for the insurgent that detonates an IED than for all these new wannabe hippies.  I have an open mind though, so I wonder.  If you have felt the need to protest the war in Iraq, why?  I understand that there are sincere people out there against the war, but I think thats the minority.  Th majority of people I have come across that have participated in these types of events are for the most part ill inform and ignorant of the actual goings on of the war.  They base all their opinions on totally biased and inaccurate media sources.  it seriously makes me fucking sick.  I think its abunch of bored shit heads who wanna feel like they are a part of a new generation of hippies.  they dont really feel strong against the war, just rage against the machine if you will.

seriously the only people effected by this war in an adverse way are the citizens of Iraq and the soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines of our armed forces.  no draft.  no rationing. no black outs.  GET REAL FUCKOS!

heres your oppurtunity to change my mind about all the anti war sentiment.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-11-02 09:49:45)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina
Iraq War Costs:
-340 billion dollars
-700K Iraqi People Died
-2800 Americans Died
I don't know really.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-02 09:51:58)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7044|Seattle

Protesters piss me off in general. I give them the finger any chance I get. Seriously, do they think that's going to change anyones mind by them holding up a sign and blocking traffic?  I find great joy in walking passed them as they try to block me, especially at supermarkets.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

sergeriver wrote:

Iraq War Costs:
-340 billion dollars
-700M Iraqi People Died
-2800 Americans Died
I don't know really.
and how has effected your day to day life. honestly, how?

and serge, your proving my point.  that 700 thousand is utter bullshit

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-11-02 09:51:36)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7044|Seattle

sergeriver wrote:

Iraq War Costs:
-340 billion dollars
-700M Iraqi People Died
-2800 Americans Died
I don't know really.
700 Million Iraqis died? I find that hard to believe.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Master*
Banned
+416|6942|United States
United States, you want to sit around worried waiting for the next terror attack? or make sure it doesnt happen again by getting rid of terrorism so it never happens again?

Last edited by Masterstyle (2006-11-02 09:51:45)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Iraq War Costs:
-340 billion dollars
-700M Iraqi People Died
-2800 Americans Died
I don't know really.
and how has effected your day to day life. honestly, how?
Mine wasn't.  You asked for those people.  Perhaps they think their money is not well spent.  I don't know.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

King_County_Downy wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Iraq War Costs:
-340 billion dollars
-700M Iraqi People Died
-2800 Americans Died
I don't know really.
700 Million Iraqis died? I find that hard to believe.
Sorry man, I missed the K.  Lol.
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6843|Indianapolis, IN
Iraq is a bullshit war, it's not a war on terror, do you remember when they were supposed to have WMD's? Now all of a sudden it's Iraqi freedom. WAIT they're terrorists, ya they'll buy it. The war in Afghanistan I support for the sole fact; it's revenge for 9/11.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Iraq War Costs:
-340 billion dollars
-700M Iraqi People Died
-2800 Americans Died
I don't know really.
and how has effected your day to day life. honestly, how?
Mine wasn't.  You asked for those people.  Perhaps they think their money is not well spent.  I don't know.
thats a good answer.  but I dont see that being enough to protest.  not with the signs I see.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

misconfiguration wrote:

Iraq is a bullshit war, it's not a war on terror, do you remember when they were supposed to have WMD's? Now all of a sudden it's Iraqi freedom. WAIT they're terrorists, ya they'll buy it. The war in Afghanistan I support for the sole fact; it's revenge for 9/11.
ok, and how has that effected your day to day life?

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-11-02 09:54:57)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:


and how has effected your day to day life. honestly, how?
Mine wasn't.  You asked for those people.  Perhaps they think their money is not well spent.  I don't know.
thats a good answer.  but I dont see that being enough to protest.  not with the signs I see.
Look, I don't like protests myself.  I think they're wasting everybody's time blocking the street and else, the other thing you can do is voting in the next elections.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091
exactly

and misconfiguration, im not disagreeing with you at all.  actually the opposite, but it was called OIF from the begining...
GetSplit
Member
+3|6853|Bloomington, IL
Well I hate hippie protesters, but Gas has gone up....thats prolly the only day to day thing i could think off.
But hopefully it'll go down when we steal all their oil in the "War for Oil" campaign these hippies think its about.

I'm all for saving 50 cents a gallon if a few hundred thousand foreigners have to die.
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|7012|Area 51
I think the US got like bored, so Bush made a gathering and was like..mmm..which country can we blame for something that is bad enough for invasion.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6938|Northern California
I used to hate all protestors too.  Then I've noticed that some of them have good cause...but I had to pull my head out of my ass to see that.  maybe you need to do that too GS.

And no, there's no direct difference to me or my life because of the iraq war.  But you know what, I and millions of other protestors around the world aren't selfish and can actually have compassion towards others.  And on that note, the country I love and the country I belong to is killing, destroying, and causing greater danger to me, my country, and my countrymen because of this war on iraq.

But again,  you won't see that if you don't take your head from your ass.  But I encourage you to try it.
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6843|Indianapolis, IN
At least you follow what I'm saying, it's messed with my day to day life by;  My cousin (roomate) was in the 116th Marine Division, he was an ambulance driver. One of the funniest, guys I've ever met in my life. Now he's insociable has mood swings and crazy flashbacks. I've seen one of my best friends literally die inside, other thing; the economy is total shit, gas prices are driving higher and higher to fund the war. They're obviously giving the troops the gas they need to finish the slaugher campaign appointed by the evil leader of ours. Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a hardcore dictator, he needed to be taken out but by my own opinion I think Kim Jong-Il is much more of a threat. Or even communist China, hell what about world hunger. Things like this just fire me up, debates are fun but I seem to come off a little harsh sometimes I'm a passionate person I understand everyone has their own opinions and I'm cool with that; as long as I can express mine.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

IRONCHEF wrote:

I used to hate all protestors too.  Then I've noticed that some of them have good cause...but I had to pull my head out of my ass to see that.  maybe you need to do that too GS.

And no, there's no direct difference to me or my life because of the iraq war.  But you know what, I and millions of other protestors around the world aren't selfish and can actually have compassion towards others.  And on that note, the country I love and the country I belong to is killing, destroying, and causing greater danger to me, my country, and my countrymen because of this war on iraq.

But again,  you won't see that if you don't take your head from your ass.  But I encourage you to try it.
lol good answer I guess, but how exactly is my head up my ass?
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6892|The Land of Scott Walker
+1 Gunslinger

They just hate the US and our military enough, I guess.  They can't love the terrorists, that makes no sense. It does not effect their lives in the least.  I think utter contempt for Bush has caused them to get so furious they've thrown rational thought to the wayside in favor of protest against their own country.  From what a lot of them say, I think they actually believe that by ripping their own country, it will assuage the anger of our enemies and they will then love us and not want to kill us anymore.  Doesn't make sense to me.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2006-11-02 10:15:38)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|7044|Seattle

Throughout history, when a republican is in office, the economy goes to shit and it's wartime. When a democrat's in office, the economy skyrockets and it's peacetime.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
GetSplit
Member
+3|6853|Bloomington, IL
well since ur so unselfish, how bout letting me borrow money to pay rent, and get a new car and pay my school loans.  No?  Well fuck you.  People worry too much about other countries suffering, we have plenty of poverty, crime, drugs and violence here on our own soil. I think Dog the bounty hunter is the only one doing anything about it.

we should fix our problems here before bitching about other peoples problems.  So I say fuck other people, I have to worry about MYSELF first, not people in other countries.  The game I'm playing is called life, if I sacrificed everything for everyone else, i'd be a monk or a saint or some shit.

No thanks.

Long story short, in my world, I'm more important than anyone and everyone.  Other than my friends and family, I could give a fuck if a stranger lives or dies, let alone a fuzzy little foreigner.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

misconfiguration wrote:

At least you follow what I'm saying, it's messed with my day to day life by;  My cousin (roomate) was in the 116th Marine Division, he was an ambulance driver. One of the funniest, guys I've ever met in my life. Now he's insociable has mood swings and crazy flashbacks. I've seen one of my best friends literally die inside, other thing; the economy is total shit, gas prices are driving higher and higher to fund the war. They're obviously giving the troops the gas they need to finish the slaugher campaign appointed by the evil leader of ours. Don't get me wrong, Saddam was a hardcore dictator, he needed to be taken out but by my own opinion I think Kim Jong-Il is much more of a threat. Or even communist China, hell what about world hunger. Things like this just fire me up, debates are fun but I seem to come off a little harsh sometimes I'm a passionate person I understand everyone has their own opinions and I'm cool with that; as long as I can express mine.
i can totally understand that reasoning.  Im an OIF veteran and Im in the reserves now and I could completely relate to the insociable feelings of being back home.  I lost two very dear and close people to enemy action while I was there.  But at the same time, I chose my profession years ago and never regret the things that I saw.  I feel that they have truly made me a better person at the same time misanthropic feelings cannot escape me.
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6843|Indianapolis, IN

King_County_Downy wrote:

Throughout history, when a republican is in office, the economy goes to shit and it's wartime. When a democrat's in office, the economy skyrockets and it's peacetime.
I couldn't agree with that statement any more in one case I can tell that's not exactly the truth. Ronal Regan was a republican, albeit when he was following Franklin D. Rosevelt he was a Democrat, many people I've spoken to said he carried Democrat values all through his Presidency. Albeit he did bring the world out of a repressive economy after the Cold War.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

GetSplit wrote:

well since ur so unselfish, how bout letting me borrow money to pay rent, and get a new car and pay my school loans.  No?  Well fuck you.  People worry too much about other countries suffering, we have plenty of poverty, crime, drugs and violence here on our own soil. I think Dog the bounty hunter is the only one doing anything about it.

we should fix our problems here before bitching about other peoples problems.  So I say fuck other people, I have to worry about MYSELF first, not people in other countries.  The game I'm playing is called life, if I sacrificed everything for everyone else, i'd be a monk or a saint or some shit.

No thanks.

Long story short, in my world, I'm more important than anyone and everyone.  Other than my friends and family, I could give a fuck if a stranger lives or dies, let alone a fuzzy little foreigner.
so, umm, why protest.  your reply has nothing to do with the OP.  have a super day


and fuck you right back

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-11-02 10:13:06)

R3v0LuT!oN
Member
+22|7114|United States

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Why protest the war in Iraq. Human beings are selfish animals by nature and NOBODY has lost a cunt hairs worth of their quality of life since 2003.  why do i see a bunch of kids waving their signs  in front of recruiting stations and doing protest walks blocking traffic.  I have more respect for the insurgent that detonates an IED than for all these new wannabe hippies.  I have an open mind though, so I wonder.  If you have felt the need to protest the war in Iraq, why?  I understand that there are sincere people out there against the war, but I think thats the minority.  Th majority of people I have come across that have participated in these types of events are for the most part ill inform and ignorant of the actual goings on of the war.  They base all their opinions on totally biased and inaccurate media sources.  it seriously makes me fucking sick.  I think its abunch of bored shit heads who wanna feel like they are a part of a new generation of hippies.  they dont really feel strong against the war, just rage against the machine if you will.

seriously the only people effected by this war in an adverse way are the citizens of Iraq and the soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines of our armed forces.  no draft.  no rationing. no black outs.  GET REAL FUCKOS!

heres your oppurtunity to change my mind about all the anti war sentiment.
I think you make a lot of unfair generalizations.  Sure there are a lot of people who are just anti-war because it's fashionable and not because they're informed.  There are just as many people (in fact, probably more) in this country who SUPPORT the war for even sketchier reasons.  I mean FFS how many people are there in this country who still believe Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11?  Or that we actually found the WMDs?

Also, what makes you so certain that the sources YOU get your information from aren't biased and inaccurate?  Which sources ARE FREE of biases and innaccuracies?  Can you name any?

My problem with the war in Iraq, besides the obvious loss of life on both sides (which I think should matter a great deal to any decent human being) is the fact that we're only furthering the hatred felt by Middle-Easterners toward the United States.  This hatred can and most likely will lead to more terrorists, and hence, more terrorist attacks, which is SUPPOSED to be what we're trying to prevent by intervening in the Middle-East in the first place.

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