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2006-10-30 09:33:50
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|7033|Northern California
Holy hell that was a shameless, sack of lies, bs piece of propaganda?  Who's the talk-show host voice they're using and where is he getting his misinformation?

I prefer to hear from the likes of Lara Logan to dispute the reality of what's going on.  And frankly, it's not hard to believe her over some BS like the OP's video...

Oh yeah, I didn't see this propaganda film explaining why Baghdad only has 2.5 hours of electricity per day.  But then, that must be liberal propaganda and therefore should be ignored...

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2006-10-30 09:35:16)

2006-10-30 11:06:40
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6987|The Land of Scott Walker

Bubbalo wrote:

Except that post-Gulf War Saddam did very little in the way of genocide.  Certainly he's not as bad as Kim Jong Il, or the situation as bad as Rwanda or Sudan.  Where is the help of those people?
Just a little genocide, that's ok. *pats Saddam on the head*

We should be helping the people in Rwanda and Sudan, too, but that does not mean we shouldn't have helped the people of Iraq.  I don't believe any country is actively assisting Rwanda or Sudan right now, but I haven't researched it yet.  Someone please post otherwise if you have a link on the subject.

Bertster7 wrote:

. . . the initial goal of turning Iraq into a fully functional democracy is probably unattainable and now Iraq is forming close ties with Islamic states like Iran and Syria the situation is going from bad to worse.
The Middle East has been a place of conflict for centuries.  Iraq will not be the US of the Middle East, but at least they will have a government they have chosen, not a dictator.  Fundamentalist Islamic state?  Hmm, probably will end up that way, but Afghanistan is one too and their leaders aren't bunch of nuts who support Iran.  I am pretty optimistic about Hamid Karzai.
2006-10-30 16:43:55
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6947|North Carolina

Stingray24 wrote:

Just a little genocide, that's ok. *pats Saddam on the head*
I believe that was Donald Rumsfeld's line to Saddam when the American government was still arming him.
2006-10-30 18:28:14
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7186

IRONCHEF wrote:

Holy hell that was a shameless, sack of lies, bs piece of propaganda?  Who's the talk-show host voice they're using and where is he getting his misinformation?

I prefer to hear from the likes of Lara Logan to dispute the reality of what's going on.  And frankly, it's not hard to believe her over some BS like the OP's video...

Oh yeah, I didn't see this propaganda film explaining why Baghdad only has 2.5 hours of electricity per day.  But then, that must be liberal propaganda and therefore should be ignored...
get lost man, you lost all your privelages over speaking about Iraq when you dont know what the fuck your talking about.  I wish I could show your retarded posts from before, but you conveniently deleted em.  get lost, or maybe you are still trying to find sadr in falujah


L O MOTHERFUCKIN L
2006-10-31 01:34:48
CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|7232|Fort Lewis WA

IRONCHEF wrote:

Holy hell that was a shameless, sack of lies, bs piece of propaganda?  Who's the talk-show host voice they're using and where is he getting his misinformation?

I prefer to hear from the likes of Lara Logan to dispute the reality of what's going on.  And frankly, it's not hard to believe her over some BS like the OP's video...

Oh yeah, I didn't see this propaganda film explaining why Baghdad only has 2.5 hours of electricity per day.  But then, that must be liberal propaganda and therefore should be ignored...
Actually Baghdad has umm about 22 hours of Power in a 24 hour period, the reason they have outages is due to new power lines / and electrical poles being put in.  I drive through several parts of Baghdad just to get to one of the 4 muhala's my paltoon is responcible for. (about a 10-20 minute drive if we don't reverse traffic or fly through an AO to get to a random hotspot.)
2006-10-31 01:40:14
CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|7232|Fort Lewis WA
And is several areas the allied presence has been lessoned, due tot he fact we have turned thoase areas over to the Iraqi army and Iraqi police.  Its not the US's or another other nations fualt over here those bastards are lazy and rely on us to give them food,water and protection.... If they became proactive and did the work themselves then 90% of the bad crap wouldn't happen.  But as it is they rely on us way to much and will not move wihtout a US soldier holding they're hands.
2006-10-31 01:58:35
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7217|Canberra, AUS

CannonFodder11b wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

Holy hell that was a shameless, sack of lies, bs piece of propaganda?  Who's the talk-show host voice they're using and where is he getting his misinformation?

I prefer to hear from the likes of Lara Logan to dispute the reality of what's going on.  And frankly, it's not hard to believe her over some BS like the OP's video...

Oh yeah, I didn't see this propaganda film explaining why Baghdad only has 2.5 hours of electricity per day.  But then, that must be liberal propaganda and therefore should be ignored...
Actually Baghdad has umm about 22 hours of Power in a 24 hour period, the reason they have outages is due to new power lines / and electrical poles being put in.  I drive through several parts of Baghdad just to get to one of the 4 muhala's my paltoon is responcible for. (about a 10-20 minute drive if we don't reverse traffic or fly through an AO to get to a random hotspot.)
Source? Talking to both of you here, I'd be interested to hear the real figures.

Edit: according to this place, Baghdad is recieving about 2.4 hours of electricty a day (on average).

Last edited by Spark (2006-10-31 01:59:59)

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2006-10-31 03:07:46
CannonFodder11b
Purple Heart Recipient
+73|7232|Fort Lewis WA

Spark wrote:

CannonFodder11b wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

Holy hell that was a shameless, sack of lies, bs piece of propaganda?  Who's the talk-show host voice they're using and where is he getting his misinformation?

I prefer to hear from the likes of Lara Logan to dispute the reality of what's going on.  And frankly, it's not hard to believe her over some BS like the OP's video...

Oh yeah, I didn't see this propaganda film explaining why Baghdad only has 2.5 hours of electricity per day.  But then, that must be liberal propaganda and therefore should be ignored...
Actually Baghdad has umm about 22 hours of Power in a 24 hour period, the reason they have outages is due to new power lines / and electrical poles being put in.  I drive through several parts of Baghdad just to get to one of the 4 muhala's my paltoon is responcible for. (about a 10-20 minute drive if we don't reverse traffic or fly through an AO to get to a random hotspot.)
Source? Talking to both of you here, I'd be interested to hear the real figures.

Edit: according to this place, Baghdad is recieving about 2.4 hours of electricty a day (on average).
My source is me Im kinda living here
2006-10-31 09:20:24
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7186

CannonFodder11b wrote:

And is several areas the allied presence has been lessoned, due tot he fact we have turned thoase areas over to the Iraqi army and Iraqi police.  Its not the US's or another other nations fualt over here those bastards are lazy and rely on us to give them food,water and protection.... If they became proactive and did the work themselves then 90% of the bad crap wouldn't happen.  But as it is they rely on us way to much and will not move wihtout a US soldier holding they're hands.
what major difference are there from OIF II till now.  When OIF II started, IED's were not the number one killer but that quickly changed during the the deployment.  fill me on dogg
2006-10-31 09:25:34
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|7228|Hell's prison

LawJik wrote:

600,000 IRAQI CITIZENS ARE DEAD. Why dont you ask them, and their families how they feel about the American intervention.
I did when I was there...they would rather have Americans with control than another streak of Genocide under a tyrant.
2006-10-31 09:31:34
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7186

d3v1ldr1v3r13 wrote:

LawJik wrote:

600,000 IRAQI CITIZENS ARE DEAD. Why dont you ask them, and their families how they feel about the American intervention.
I did when I was there...they would rather have Americans with control than another streak of Genocide under a tyrant.
they also would have said that number is a lod of bullshit, unless 550,000 iraqis died since I left in march 05.  I dont think so.  people, please quit showing your ignorance by bringing up that trumped up number.   motherfuckers dont realize how big a number 600,000 is, its just not true.
2006-10-31 10:37:03
Colfax
PR Only
+70|7186|United States - Illinois
I think its funny when all these retard liberals bring up shit figures that get thrown in there face by our troops that have been over there and telling them otherwise.  Idiots.  I love the whats your source to a guy living there. 

Its like asking me if its sunny out.  One sec... Yes....

Liberal: whats your source on that..how creditable is that (in a nerdy teenage voice)

I support our troops and this war.  God bless all the men risking their lives for me.

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2006-10-31 17:46:28
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6947|North Carolina

d3v1ldr1v3r13 wrote:

LawJik wrote:

600,000 IRAQI CITIZENS ARE DEAD. Why dont you ask them, and their families how they feel about the American intervention.
I did when I was there...they would rather have Americans with control than another streak of Genocide under a tyrant.
Well, we "controlled" Saddam at one point.  Who's to say we don't just put in place another Saddam before we leave?   If you think about it, that may become our only choice by the end of all this....

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-10-31 17:46:46)

2006-10-31 17:58:55
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6947|North Carolina

Colfax wrote:

I think its funny when all these retard liberals bring up shit figures that get thrown in there face by our troops that have been over there and telling them otherwise.  Idiots.  I love the whats your source to a guy living there. 

Its like asking me if its sunny out.  One sec... Yes....

Liberal: whats your source on that..how creditable is that (in a nerdy teenage voice)

I support our troops and this war.  God bless all the men risking their lives for me.
Exactly.  One soldier's experiences cover everything a group of researchers can come up with.  I'd take one interview with a soldier over years of research any day.  All these damn factinistas are just showing their lack of faith in the country.

My gut tells me that these researchers and statisticians are conspiring to make the war look bad.  The same thing goes with the Iraqi morgue attendants that provide some of the info.  I don't have a source for that, but who needs a "creditable" source? (credible)
2006-10-31 21:29:36
13rin
Member
+977|7021

FlamingDeath wrote:

JaggedPanther wrote:

Schools are being rebuilt??? You mean 'REBUILT" the ones that were destroyed when this administration invaded??
And then destroyed again by friendly fire
Maybe Saddam shouldn't have put his tanks in the courtyard and used civilians as human targets....
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2006-10-31 21:38:59
13rin
Member
+977|7021

IRONCHEF wrote:

Holy hell that was a shameless, sack of lies, bs piece of propaganda?  Who's the talk-show host voice they're using and where is he getting his misinformation?

I prefer to hear from the likes of Lara Logan to dispute the reality of what's going on.  And frankly, it's not hard to believe her over some BS like the OP's video...

Oh yeah, I didn't see this propaganda film explaining why Baghdad only has 2.5 hours of electricity per day.  But then, that must be liberal propaganda and therefore should be ignored...
Just goes to show how biased you are. Even though I don't watch your crap news, I still know who they are.  Its Glenn Beck.  He whines and bitches a bit but I don't take everything he says verbatum.  However, he did a great job with this.  People like you are so quick to point out everything wrong with OUR OWN policy, without offering any solutions.  BTW, If you consider this  "misinformation" (actually facts), then I'd wager you liked Clinton -you have no idea when someone is lying to you.

Post your electric video then... Even though, people who ARE THERE IN IRAQ have allready shot it down!
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2006-11-01 10:45:17
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7143|132 and Bush

Atakir wrote:

Ok, I watched the movie. Glenn Beck fails to mention that Glenn Beck is a total retard.
Glenn beck sold out his Christmas show here in 2 hours. He scheduled another show for the following day. It sold out as well. Retarded or not people like him. He is the third most listened to talk show here in the States.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
2006-11-01 10:48:00
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7186

Kmarion wrote:

Atakir wrote:

Ok, I watched the movie. Glenn Beck fails to mention that Glenn Beck is a total retard.
Glenn beck sold out his Christmas show here in 2 hours. He scheduled another show for the following day. It sold out as well. Retarded or not people like him. He is the third most listened to talk show here in the States.
probablly for the same reasons O'reily is so popular. In my opinion, Glenn Beck is a perfect example of how ANYONE could get on their soap box and spew trash and people will listen.


Just because Master P made millions from selling millions with his record label, doesnt mean that No Limit records makes good music.  same goes for pundits and media assholes
2006-11-03 23:17:00
13rin
Member
+977|7021

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Atakir wrote:

Ok, I watched the movie. Glenn Beck fails to mention that Glenn Beck is a total retard.
Glenn beck sold out his Christmas show here in 2 hours. He scheduled another show for the following day. It sold out as well. Retarded or not people like him. He is the third most listened to talk show here in the States.
probablly for the same reasons O'reily is so popular. In my opinion, Glenn Beck is a perfect example of how ANYONE could get on their soap box and spew trash and people will listen.


Just because Master P made millions from selling millions with his record label, doesnt mean that No Limit records makes good music.  same goes for pundits and media assholes
Yea, I see that. Lemme see... Barbra Streitsnd (-sp but don't care), Dixie Chicks, Al Gore, Clinton...
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
2006-11-03 23:21:49
eyesteponbabies
Banned
+13|6973|St.Louis, Missouri
How about including how many innocent deaths there are for "reunitement of people." And oh yeah, where did the oil go?

 

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