Best point so far. And if you are a sniper running around being a contributor, I think you'll find a supply bag somewhere. Otherwise you're just a douche-bag going nowhere.Magius5.0 wrote:
Sniper is by far the hardest class in the game to play effectively and get mass kills/teamwork scores. Having sniped a lot during BF2 and now BF2142, the best snipers are typically the most aggressive ones. You know, the guys that rush in to defend a point, plant claymores all over the place, and shoot the enemy from five meters away into the front of their skull. Limited ammo is probably the least of their concerns, half the time they'll be dead before they go through even half of it.
Useful snipers won't usually need ammo, by this rationale, so commander drops are kind of a waste unless absolutely no one else needs it However, if a sniper (a good one) has about ten to fifteen kills by himself and has been defending points/assaultint points left and right, assume that guy needs the ammo real bad, otherwise he wouldn't be asking for it.
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Sniping has no use in a teamwork based game. Recon kit should not have gotten the sniper tree.
Last edited by doctastrangelove1964 (2006-11-13 15:45:48)
every 30 seconds you can resupply with crates... gimme a break
I like enemy snipers alot, they seem to hand me dogtags. Friendly snipers who get 10 kills, 4 deaths and no team scores annoy me.dont_be_ss wrote:
Why is their so many anti-snipers on these forums? Do you all get owned by them or something?
Don't like it when you can't see the Enemy? Tough shit! lmao. I expect a FLAME WAR!!!!
Anyways thanks for all of your ideas, i'll try a few of them out.
I have all my sniper badges on BF2. I had fun with the kit on BF2...but.... I grew out of it!
BTW... hold the fries on my combo number two please!
BTW... hold the fries on my combo number two please!
I don't usually pester commanders about dropping crates for me. I tend to defend flags that are otherwise left undefended, and spot oponents, usually trying to at least put 1 in their chest to make life easier for you other guys.
What REALLY grips my dangle, is being sat defending a flag with 3 support guys sat picking their noses there as well, asking THEM for ammo and getting abuse in response. Now to be fair, I tend not to stab the scrotes where they stand, justified as I might feel, but go hunting on my own... usually a suicide run, but heck at least I'll re-spawn with a full clip.
What REALLY grips my dangle, is being sat defending a flag with 3 support guys sat picking their noses there as well, asking THEM for ammo and getting abuse in response. Now to be fair, I tend not to stab the scrotes where they stand, justified as I might feel, but go hunting on my own... usually a suicide run, but heck at least I'll re-spawn with a full clip.
I haven't been commander much on 2142... but sometimes, i do give a lone sniper a supply crate IF AND ONLY IF no other person on my team requests one. I always give priority to the people in squads or tanks/ walkers that have taken damage after capping a silo.
Has anyone gotten a supply box kill yet? I really miss that in BF2 I wonder why they didn't include a supply box kill as a legit kill in the latest bf2 patch. I just thought it would be funny to see the message:
ME [Supply Box] Sn1p3rNo0bz
Has anyone gotten a supply box kill yet? I really miss that in BF2 I wonder why they didn't include a supply box kill as a legit kill in the latest bf2 patch. I just thought it would be funny to see the message:
ME [Supply Box] Sn1p3rNo0bz
snipers smell, they have to crap in bags and bury it, cant smoke and have to always eat cold food, they are loners and when they are in a team they don't speak they grunt, kind of like the kid that always got picked on at school
So far the two best reasons not to give loner snipers supply crates are;
1 supply crate resupplies 1 sniper vs. 1 supply crate resupplying 5-6 people + vehicles
No sensible sniper want to have a 1 metre high `look there's a sniper here` indicator anywhere near them.
1 supply crate resupplies 1 sniper vs. 1 supply crate resupplying 5-6 people + vehicles
No sensible sniper want to have a 1 metre high `look there's a sniper here` indicator anywhere near them.
I once dropped a supply crate near a sniper and he went ballistic on me. NEVER AGAIN!!!!!
It's amazing how people are so opposite ended on this. My two cents would be if the sniper is really contributing to the game plan then he should get it, if not do the math = no supply drop for you.
Yesterday my Commander told me to defend a Flag because he saw the enemy going for it. So within a few minutes I took out 11 people trying to take it from us and I asked for a supply drop because by that time in the game I ran out of ammo and resorted to the pistol and nades. Needless to say THAT commander dropped a box immediately because I prevented a new spawning point for the enemy.
So again I would say if the sniper is doing the deed then he should get one. If he's not REALLY helping the team and playing target practice while on roofs then he can go find his own.
Btw, someone mentions snipers caping flags unprotected helps blah blah... I cap them even with enemy there defending. Snipers aren't useless, people playing any class can be useless. The question is are you helping everyone or are you useless.
End of story.
Sarciss
Yesterday my Commander told me to defend a Flag because he saw the enemy going for it. So within a few minutes I took out 11 people trying to take it from us and I asked for a supply drop because by that time in the game I ran out of ammo and resorted to the pistol and nades. Needless to say THAT commander dropped a box immediately because I prevented a new spawning point for the enemy.
So again I would say if the sniper is doing the deed then he should get one. If he's not REALLY helping the team and playing target practice while on roofs then he can go find his own.
Btw, someone mentions snipers caping flags unprotected helps blah blah... I cap them even with enemy there defending. Snipers aren't useless, people playing any class can be useless. The question is are you helping everyone or are you useless.
End of story.
Sarciss
Make a squad, invite some other loner playing as support, and quitcherbitchin.
P.S.
Most of the best snipers I've seen run around with a squad and snipe off the guys the rest of the squad can't see, and can't engage, and they lay down APMs and kill armor with RDX, after their good support buddies stun it with an EMP nade.
P.S.
Most of the best snipers I've seen run around with a squad and snipe off the guys the rest of the squad can't see, and can't engage, and they lay down APMs and kill armor with RDX, after their good support buddies stun it with an EMP nade.
Way to revive a dead topic...
Thats why you stop camping and go to the damn supplies yourself!
I think this subject is dead now. Time to unsubscribe.
Peace
Peace
Very agree.staticblue wrote:
1. A good lone sniper has saved your ass numerous times and, you don't even know it.
2. A good lone sniper has spotted the enemies around you while you cap silos/flags so you can kill them.
3. A good lone sniper does cap nearby uncontested silos/flags.
4. A good lone sniper does not sit around waiting for ammo, he gets up and finds it.
5. A good lone sniper can defend a flag from infantry very effectively.
I snipe but, run support more. I like being in a squad but,
1. Smacktards make squads and, don't lead.
2. Dumb Squad Leaders constantly leading his squad to it's death.
3. Squad is locked with two people in it.
4. Squad leader's whoring vehicles and, not even giving his mates a ride.
To many people play this game like it's a single player game. As for the ones who do squad up right, a good portion of those people turn out to be jerks or whiners. Best bet for constant good game play is find an active clan with a server.
As for the OP. Get up and move. Every second lost is a potential missed kill.
I remember numerous times saving people on my team from being shredded by MG fire.
Also I remember that people I've saved said "Thanks" only two or three times.
Supplies are limited. Given the choice of a well chosen Sniper who can take out maybe 20 in a round, compared to a tank who can take out 20 in 15 minutes - I'd always choose the tank. Squad up, and work as a team.
20 kills IAR is actually quite a small number for a sniper.leetkyle wrote:
Supplies are limited. Given the choice of a well chosen Sniper who can take out maybe 20 in a round, compared to a tank who can take out 20 in 15 minutes - I'd always choose the tank. Squad up, and work as a team.
Just yesterday I was playing Minsk Titan on Wind clan server. It was a really nice round. Camped skyscraper and was covering two silos. Got several Combat and Adv. Combat pins as well as Infiltrator pins. And insane amount of silo defend points.
You see, it's not only the kills what matters. Well-placed sniper can defend 1-2 silos from infantry quite well. For a tank it's harder, as generally you aim rifle faster than drive on a tank.
And snipers are useful at spotting stuff.
Last edited by [RU]Grmbl (2006-12-27 04:14:21)
All your text has proved is that there is no such thing as a good sniper.staticblue wrote:
1. A good lone sniper has saved your ass numerous times and, you don't even know it.
2. A good lone sniper has spotted the enemies around you while you cap silos/flags so you can kill them.
3. A good lone sniper does cap nearby uncontested silos/flags.
4. A good lone sniper does not sit around waiting for ammo, he gets up and finds it.
5. A good lone sniper can defend a flag from infantry very effectively.
I snipe but, run support more. I like being in a squad but,
1. Smacktards make squads and, don't lead.
2. Dumb Squad Leaders constantly leading his squad to it's death.
3. Squad is locked with two people in it.
4. Squad leader's whoring vehicles and, not even giving his mates a ride.
To many people play this game like it's a single player game. As for the ones who do squad up right, a good portion of those people turn out to be jerks or whiners. Best bet for constant good game play is find an active clan with a server.
As for the OP. Get up and move. Every second lost is a potential missed kill.
11 kills my arse.Sarciss wrote:
It's amazing how people are so opposite ended on this. My two cents would be if the sniper is really contributing to the game plan then he should get it, if not do the math = no supply drop for you.
Yesterday my Commander told me to defend a Flag because he saw the enemy going for it. So within a few minutes I took out 11 people trying to take it from us and I asked for a supply drop because by that time in the game I ran out of ammo and resorted to the pistol and nades. Needless to say THAT commander dropped a box immediately because I prevented a new spawning point for the enemy.
So again I would say if the sniper is doing the deed then he should get one. If he's not REALLY helping the team and playing target practice while on roofs then he can go find his own.
Btw, someone mentions snipers caping flags unprotected helps blah blah... I cap them even with enemy there defending. Snipers aren't useless, people playing any class can be useless. The question is are you helping everyone or are you useless.
End of story.
Sarciss
Well, if you suck at BF, don't assume that everyone else does, OK?Sgt.Davi wrote:
11 kills my arse.
Don't be such a lone wofl ass, and start working with a team. Then you'll get as many supply drops as you want.
when im commander and snipers ask me supplies i tell them do move to a certain position ... i know that a supply drop would betray the snipers position so i would order a supply guy to move to the snipers position or the snipers to the supply guy ...simple as that ... i never give a single soldier a whole supply drop wich could help a squad that has armor ... we need them for heavy support , snipers can only picjk off troops ,set claymores etc etc .
No offense to snipers ... YOUR WELCOME LADS !!
No offense to snipers ... YOUR WELCOME LADS !!
Let me explain this, from 72 hours of commanding, every command badge and the wcr.dont_be_ss wrote:
This is beginning to piss me off, after about 100 tickets i run out of ammo. I then ask for supplies and i never get them. Then this guy in the tank asks and he gets them straight away .
I was just on a server and the commander was using the mic, he said "i'm not giving you supplies, what good would they do there?" I replied "supplies need to be dropped when people run out of ammo". I never get supplies so i just go in with the knife.
Anyone else get this when sniping on minsk or any other map?
Dropping supplies to support 1 person is useless, armor wins the war, not one sniper. I'd rather supply a tank that is killing and supporting the team effort, than some sniper in the middle of nowhere, that has put up his tent around 1 single cp.
QFT.smart commander wrote:
i'm not giving you supplies, what good would they do there?
Wrong there. This is 2142 and a lot of the snipers have RDX making them a threat to armor and assets.Tjasso wrote:
when im commander and snipers ask me supplies i tell them do move to a certain position ... i know that a supply drop would betray the snipers position so i would order a supply guy to move to the snipers position or the snipers to the supply guy ...simple as that ... i never give a single soldier a whole supply drop which could help a squad that has armor ... we need them for heavy support , snipers can only picjk off troops ,set claymores etc etc .
No offense to snipers ... YOUR WELCOME LADS !!
The Zeller rifle is highly effective at destroying explosives (loller mines, EMP mines, RDX, APM, Sentry guns) that slow or defeat the advance of the rest. Yet another way the sniper can provide support.
But the amount of ammo that a sniper gets is minimal. 30 shots for 15 kills, 5 -7 destroyed motion mines ( I usually try to take out all 5 that one engineer dropped), plus kill assists and ones that run away to find a medic.
Snipers run out of ammo same as any other kit but usually use less of it to do more instead of running in spraying bullets everywhere and getting killed two seconds later.
In my experience unless a tank asks for a supply box he will not use it effectively anyway. Most tank/walker/apc drivers advance past a supply box and never fall back to repair when they get attacked or its too late. Mines and Plum up the butt make short work of Armour. You guys say 15 kills with a walker or its a waist, but most of the time they get kill after a couple because they run into the middle of the fighting and don't stay at strategic points (most people on this forum don't do that, but every other asshat does). Supplies need to be dropped with more thought period.
If the commander does not drop supplies unless someone asks and no one else is asking then there is no reason why the sniper should not get them.
The point is that don't assume someone else will use the supplies more effectively than a sniper. I think infantry often use supplies more effectively than armor.
If a sniper has run out of ammo and is not at the bottom half of the score board with a positive KDR is more likely to be too far from a medic or support player to get help.
Drop supplies with more situational awareness and it does not matter what kit there using.
If someone is out in the middle of no where asking for supplies is he attacking something in particular (a highly strategic flag maybe)?
Is a sniper in the enemy base blowing up assets?
Is it a squad leader that needs a new spawn beacon?
Is this one player the reason you still have four flags instead of just two?
Last edited by cheshiremoe (2007-04-04 11:17:57)
Lol, I just wet my pants from laughing.cheshiremoe wrote:
Wrong there. This is 2142 and a lot of the snipers have RDX making them a threat to armor and assets.
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