Parker
isteal
+1,452|6847|The Gem Saloon
ok so i have like the worst pc on the face of the planet, there is absolutely no chance in the world that my wife will let me get a new one. but i can upgrade it for christmas.....so with this shitty of a PC, what would you guys do make it perform better for BF2.......
Manufacturer:     
HP Pavilion 061
Processor:    
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory:    
448MB RAM
Hard Drive:    
154 GB
Video Card:    
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Monitor:    
hp f1503 Flat Panel Monitor
Sound Card:    
Realtek AC97 Audio
Speakers/Headphones:    
Keyboard:    
USB Root Hub
Mouse:    
USB Root Hub
Mouse Surface:    
Operating System:    
Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)



lol i know its crap, but any info would help. thanks.
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|7192|The Hague, Netherlands

RAM, 100% get at least 1gb
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36eac2cb6af70a43508fd8d1c93d3201f4e23435.png
misconfiguration
GURU
+86|6849|Indianapolis, IN

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

RAM, 100% get at least 1gb
^ *nods* get more RAM

I would upgrade my GFX card, you can get a 7600Gt for a little more than $100. Also, you have a 3000+ running at 2.2ghz, have you overclocked it? They run at 1.8ghz stock so if you upgrade your RAM and GFX card I think you'll see a nice performance jump.
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6842|New York
ram first,
video card second
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joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|7052|Cheshire. UK
2 gb mem if it can handle it

New Graphics card

whats your upgrade budget>>
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7002|UK

Yup Ram, then GPU and possibly a new processor IF you can stretch that far.  No idea what your budget is but for a good £500 (maybe a bit under) you could GREATLY improve your system without the huge cost of a new machine to run similar speed's.

On the GPU note though, there is no point splurging on an expensive card if your monitor is not up to scratch.

Give us a price range and I will have a look to see how best to improve it for you.  I may just do the exact same sooo it's no problem

Martyn
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6946|N. Ireland
If you are spending £500 upgrading an Athlon XP computer.. just get a new computer - period.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6847|The Gem Saloon
its not overclocked that i know of...i mean ive been the owner the whole time and ive never messed with it, cause i dont know how......my budget will probably be around $500. my monitor is a LG L1920P....not sure about refresh rate and all that. i dont really know computers that well, im a blacksmith that makes knives for a living so i suppose im a little slow with technology..........thanks for all the responses, hopefully after christmas my game wont look like blocks.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7054|132 and Bush

You need to tell us what the primary use of your machine is. Is it just BF2 ?

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-11-13 10:10:37)

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Parker
isteal
+1,452|6847|The Gem Saloon
mainly just BF2....i use for work too, but thats just like emails and ordering supplies, shit like that.....
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7054|132 and Bush

You want to be looking at a new GPU then and if you can put some more memory into it. It all depends on your budget. Those two things will help your game play out. The most important thing would be an upgraded graphics card. More memory of course is a cheaper, easier alternative to gaining performance. BF2 is burning right through the memory you have installed now and putting stress on your cpu. This is no doubt killing your FPS. I'm sure if you alt tabbed out of the game and brought up task manager while you are playing you would see a very high percentage of you cpu being used.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
theknuck
It's pronounced Knuck, like in Knuckle!!
+45|7065|balls
get 2gigs of ram and  if your gpu is agp, then go with 7600gt.

2gigs=$215

7600gt= $180

this is a quick fix for less than $400.  however, agp is old, but still gets the job done.  i'm in the same boat as you bud, wifes got me by the balls.  so what i did was part out the old and got a few bucks to put toward my new upgrade.  but i doubt you'll get much for what you have.  good luck and start saving now!  i'm almost there.

oh yeah, shop newegg and nothing else.

Last edited by theknuck (2006-11-13 16:25:27)

<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|7155|New York
I can not find a HP Pavilion 061 anywhere on the net to help you decide on what you can run for a processor. Are you sure thats the right model number? If possible, could you look on the back panel and give the model number so I could search further for you?
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6847|The Gem Saloon
i dont know why it put that...i copied the info from my xfire page........
its a hp pavillion a420n
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|7155|New York

Parker wrote:

i dont know why it put that...i copied the info from my xfire page........
its a hp pavillion a420n
Thank You Sir. Ill get on that for you.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7073|Mhz

RAM - 2GB of new stuff (fastest your motherboard can handle) replace what you've got you don't want HP tat dragging your new stuff down.

I'm guessing it's 32bit not 64 so the only better CPU you could get is a 3200+. Not a great difference but it is better and only about £35 (GBP).

I'd definitely upgrade the graphics card, x800XT PEs are pretty reasonable in price and they play BF2 and 2142 without trying (I know I own one), there higher spec cards out there but for BFing I don't see why you'd need more.
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|7155|New York
Welp acording to the specs of the computer. You are running the highest XP processor(atleast to be found ) that your board will handle. You have the choice of a 266/333 Fsb processor. Looking around on the net, the only XP i could find is the 3200+ and its a 400Mhz fsb processor.

So best you can do is, Upgrade the memory to 2 gig. Buy all new, Buy PC2700 DDR ram for it.

Get yourself a decent vid card. Nothing huge, because the computer only has a 250 watt power supply. So dont go crazy on the vid card. Its possible to upgrade the Power supply, you just need to Take it in to a shop and have them match it up. IF you have a compUSA near you, there brand of PSU will fit. A decent 350watt would be good.

Besides that bud, theres not much more you can do.

Hope this helped a bit. BTW you have a  ASUS A7V8X-LA
The HP name of the board is Kamet2-GL6E

Memory supported is 2gb in 2  1gb sticks of Unbuffered Non ecc memory.

Last edited by <[onex]>Headstone (2006-11-13 17:20:30)

TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7073|Mhz

Why waste your time going to a PC shop to change a power supply? It's a 30 second job an ill trained monkey could do...

I agree with everything you say though, I'm surprised its only a 333Mhz FSB system though 0o.
In fact this says it goes to a 400 FSB --> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/gene … &lc=en


EDIT:-

Couple of suggested buys, shop around I'm just going for the items I'm not looking for the lowest price for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820145145 <-- 2 of those

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102666 I like ATi, I'm sure someone will suggest an nVidia alternative.

You'll probably want a better PSU, you wont be putting it under much stress with your system but get 350w+ minimum and go for a decent brand.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2006-11-13 17:41:08)

<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|7155|New York

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Why waste your time going to a PC shop to change a power supply? It's a 30 second job an ill trained monkey could do...

I agree with everything you say though, I'm surprised its only a 333Mhz FSB system though 0o.
In fact this says it goes to a 400 FSB --> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/gene … &lc=en


EDIT:-

Couple of suggested buys, shop around I'm just going for the items I'm not looking for the lowest price for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820145145 <-- 2 of those

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102666 I like ATi, I'm sure someone will suggest an nVidia alternative.

You'll probably want a better PSU, you wont be putting it under much stress with your system but get 350w+ minimum and go for a decent brand.
Reason for the shop IS, if he doesnt get one small enough to fit in that case(alot of them wont) then he needs to make sure the one he gets will work. The bolt pattern Might not even be standard. Theres no law saying HP had to use it. Been there done that.

If you look at the board speck(on HP site) it says Only 266/333 That usually means to me a barton chip. Only way he might find something faster is ebay. Right now the 333 socket A bartons are rare. Best ive found is the 3000+ he already has.

That and the fact he says he isnt that familiar with doing the PC work. Atleast goto a shop and let them tell you if its a standard PSU. then go buy one and put it in.
power9787
Member
+10|7035
i have a AMD 2600+ with no graphic card and with 64mb integrated memory GPu, and 1 gb of RAM, and 200gb harddrive
, because my dad took my GPU which is  nvidia 5700+ FX
i actually have the worst computer ever
montypythizzle
Member
+21|7056
get 200 dollars of ram 150 dollar vid card

pm me for suggestions
that will equate for 2gb and nice 150 vid card
check at newegg.com
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7073|Mhz

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Why waste your time going to a PC shop to change a power supply? It's a 30 second job an ill trained monkey could do...

I agree with everything you say though, I'm surprised its only a 333Mhz FSB system though 0o.
In fact this says it goes to a 400 FSB --> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/gene … &lc=en


EDIT:-

Couple of suggested buys, shop around I'm just going for the items I'm not looking for the lowest price for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820145145 <-- 2 of those

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102666 I like ATi, I'm sure someone will suggest an nVidia alternative.

You'll probably want a better PSU, you wont be putting it under much stress with your system but get 350w+ minimum and go for a decent brand.
Reason for the shop IS, if he doesn't get one small enough to fit in that case(alot of them wont) then he needs to make sure the one he gets will work. The bolt pattern Might not even be standard. Theres no law saying HP had to use it. Been there done that.

If you look at the board speck(on HP site) it says Only 266/333 That usually means to me a barton chip. Only way he might find something faster is ebay. Right now the 333 socket A bartons are rare. Best ive found is the 3000+ he already has.

That and the fact he says he isnt that familiar with doing the PC work. Atleast goto a shop and let them tell you if its a standard PSU. then go buy one and put it in.
I linked that board on the HP site, all I did was copy paste the name of it from what you posted into the search on the HP site. Doesn't mater anyway, a processor upgrade is pretty pointless, the performance increase from a 3000 to 3200 is virtually nothing, and we agreed the RAM is 333Mhz. (The RAM I posted works regardless which of us was right).

PSUs have been standardized to 2 bolt patterns for like 9 years, cases are drilled to accommodate both, usually with elongated screw holes to compensate for iffy construction and heat expansion.
--------------------------
The back of his PC, he can correct me if it's not.
https://image.i-soldit.com/images/0109/101090003514/101090003514_07_07.jpg

Its as standard as all the others. (Notice the redundant holes for the other bolt layout)

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2006-11-14 04:01:19)

<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|7155|New York

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Why waste your time going to a PC shop to change a power supply? It's a 30 second job an ill trained monkey could do...

I agree with everything you say though, I'm surprised its only a 333Mhz FSB system though 0o.
In fact this says it goes to a 400 FSB --> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/gene … &lc=en


EDIT:-

Couple of suggested buys, shop around I'm just going for the items I'm not looking for the lowest price for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820145145 <-- 2 of those

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814102666 I like ATi, I'm sure someone will suggest an nVidia alternative.

You'll probably want a better PSU, you wont be putting it under much stress with your system but get 350w+ minimum and go for a decent brand.
Reason for the shop IS, if he doesn't get one small enough to fit in that case(alot of them wont) then he needs to make sure the one he gets will work. The bolt pattern Might not even be standard. Theres no law saying HP had to use it. Been there done that.

If you look at the board speck(on HP site) it says Only 266/333 That usually means to me a barton chip. Only way he might find something faster is ebay. Right now the 333 socket A bartons are rare. Best ive found is the 3000+ he already has.

That and the fact he says he isnt that familiar with doing the PC work. Atleast goto a shop and let them tell you if its a standard PSU. then go buy one and put it in.
I linked that board on the HP site, all I did was copy paste the name of it from what you posted into the search on the HP site. Doesn't mater anyway, a processor upgrade is pretty pointless, the performance increase from a 3000 to 3200 is virtually nothing, and we agreed the RAM is 333Mhz. (The RAM I posted works regardless which of us was right).

PSUs have been standardized to 2 bolt patterns for like 9 years, cases are drilled to accommodate both, usually with elongated screw holes to compensate for iffy construction and heat expansion.
--------------------------
The back of his PC, he can correct me if it's not.
http://image.i-soldit.com/images/0109/1 … _07_07.jpg

Its as standard as all the others. (Notice the redundant holes for the other bolt layout)
Yes you are right, But the problem i have found while working on those is the length of PSU you buy. Because of the placement of the memory sticks, A PSU that is a tad too long will hit the sticks. Thats why i suggested a generic(or a sparkle brand, because they are cheap and give great power and are a standard size) would fit nicely in there. I didnt want him to buy say a Antec or something that would be too wide or too long and then try and jam it in there. A shop will usually just take the side cover off on the counter and let him know. This way if they say Hes good on space, then he can just walk out and buy one and install it without charge.

Now as for the Ram, Its a good idea(as has been suggested) to just buy 2  1gb sticks and take the other memory out and wrap it in anti static wrap and just put it asside for emergencies. Youll need two new 1 gig sticks to max that thing out.

Vid card, Anything that is worth a dam will require some decent power, hence the suggestion of an upgraded Power supply. The computer is aged a bit and the extra strain of a vid card could and probably would cause problems with the PSU. It is just a counter measure upgrade. If needed Ill take a better look at the case design and Link you to a power supply that will be cheap and give you the ample power your going to require.(Sparkle brand, while very cheap to buy, are very highly rated among overclockers for there pure power output and reliability).

As for the poster with the 64mb built in graphics, I feel for ya man. I really do.

Last edited by <[onex]>Headstone (2006-11-14 05:32:37)

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