InfectiousShadow
BF2S Resident Bass Player
+45|6879|Washington State, USA
The RDX thing has caused me to get a few TK's because of nubs that dont know what a red x and "GET THE FUCK OUT THERE IS RDX THERE!" means. Not really sure if its a issue but it seems kind of ridiculous that the motion mines can still blow up vehicles with active defense on. I think EA could have made it so the Active defense on the transports makes it so the AA EMP launcher cant lock on to the transport when the active defense is on but its not much of a issue i encounter alot
Chuckskull
Member
+3|6823

PoP wrote:

Nothing should be nerfed, leave it as it fucking is!
Ekfud
Infantry Whore
+42|7123|Kingswood Country

zomg-Muffy wrote:

strikeman67 wrote:

No class is to powerful by itself
That is, except for Support.
That's a negatory. Support gets into all worlds of hurt when confronted with:-
Decent snipers
Armour
Having to move & fire (get a mate to go assault. both walking - go prone and fire a burst and see who comes off best)

Nor doth failure to organise a group of people before rushing a support dude in a titan corridor make them a 1337 class. Use nades - follow the nades in - bring backup - then tbag.
ZCaliber
Member
+12|6959|Between Canada and Iowa
The Accipiter needs a boost, the Netbat lock is useless.

The gunships can use a boost as well... 1 Salvo should be able to kill a vehicle, especially a walker. I can't begin to say how laughably easy it is to kill a gunship, not by actually killing, but causing them to crash from EMP missiles.
StormEye
Sniper
+50|7092|Malibu

ZCaliber wrote:

The Accipiter needs a boost, the Netbat lock is useless.
It does require a boost... The Accipiter was my 3rd last unlock, and now the only time I am using is to fool around... (and of course all of my squadmates start flaming me for using it)
Disabl3d
Member
+11|6852|Chicago

SlightlySto0pid wrote:

I'm sorry but the Shuko/Bianchi effortlessly killing people from across an area is not balanced
If you can't kill a machine gunner in 2142, then you need to find a new game. It's not that fucking difficult.

Last edited by Disabl3d (2006-11-14 22:37:30)

Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|7103|Brisbane, Australia

Nerfed

Your access to the new thread button

Upgrades

The search button, for some reason, it just doesnt seem to be big enough that retards like you cannot find simliar threads, maybe it should pulse when you type something thats already been posted
Your skill - Your a fucking whinny cry baby and should learn to play, this game is balanced, the only things that remotely need fixing are AA and the Ganz

Do you have your 2142 CD nearby? If so, take it, and swallow it - whole
jkohlc
2142th Whore
+214|6974|Singapore
just fix the horrible hit detection of the knife and the glitches/bugs and im happy
Chuckskull
Member
+3|6823
The games well balanced, everything has a weakness and a strength. TBH if you run into a narrow hall with a LMG at one end and don't get shredded then something needs to be changed.
Magius5.0
Member
+106|6829|UMass Amherst

ZCaliber wrote:

The gunships can use a boost as well... 1 Salvo should be able to kill a vehicle, especially a walker. I can't begin to say how laughably easy it is to kill a gunship, not by actually killing, but causing them to crash from EMP missiles.
So true.  Like I said, gunships are like freaking flying coffins, considering that your average player can't hit shit with the TV-guided missiles (and I actually can use them, beat that), and one EMP missile to the pooper and you're screwed.  The odds of me me taking out a J-10 w/pro pilot and me in a freaking F-35 WITH ONE WING MISSING are probably better than a gunship taking out a walker.  Unless I plow into the little shithead with about five packs of RDX strapped to the nose of my gunship.  lol.  Anti-vehicle strat #206.
Dex Luther
Member
+32|6885|Canukastan

Ekfud wrote:

Nor doth failure to organise a group of people before rushing a support dude in a titan corridor make them a 1337 class. Use nades - follow the nades in - bring backup - then tbag.
That's fine when they are set up fairly close to the front of the hall where you can bounce a nade off the wall to hurt/kill them.

However, how are you supposed to get them with nades if they are further back? Bouncing it off the wall doesn't come close to touching them. If you try to turn the corner to throw a nade at them, you get a face full of sentry/MG spray and don't have time to throw the nade.

Thought of smoke to conceal the attack, but people just shoot through it. Smoke is useless.
As I said; they are too far back to get with nades.

The only real way of countering the unbalancedness of the support whores is to use your own teammates as human shields. A group of people rushes the hall hoping one of you will make it (probably one of the people in the back who are protected from the bullets for a little while by the bodies of the people in front) and last long enough to take out the console. Even that has a slim chance of success since there's always some nade spam in the shower of bullets.
ZCaliber
Member
+12|6959|Between Canada and Iowa
There are a million factors that can go wrong when piloting a gunship:

1) Someone sits in an AA site. They can lock onto you with missiles from anywhere in the map practically.
2) A gunner in a transport spots you. Seriously, they have better guns than the nose gun of the gunship (P.s. gun gun gun)
3) Someone spots you with Titan AA. Obvious there.
4) Someone in the AA position of a walker spots you. Same as AA site, only more deadly.
5) Another gunship spots you. Ironically, the only thing 1 salvo of missiles will take down is another gunship...
6) Anyone on the opposing team has the SAAW. 2 shots, down you go.
7) Lightpoles. The best AA for gunships ever implemented.
8) You hover for even a moment to let your gunner kill someone, only to be hit by a Sudnik/Mitchell/Pilum shot.
9) An APC is in the area, EMP -> Gun -> Boom.

I once had 19 kills with a gunship on Titan mode... I was absolutely robbed twice... I could've saved myself months of strife. All because a teamate wanted a LMG kill, and a APC surviving a salvo, only to EMP and gun me to death...

I still curse that round.
Invaderzim
Chicken wing?
+49|6896|Newcastle NSW Australia
AR rockets>support gunners in corridors leading to consloles
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6925|Communist Republic of CA, USA

ZCaliber wrote:

There are a million factors that can go wrong when piloting a gunship:

1) Someone sits in an AA site. They can lock onto you with missiles from anywhere in the map practically.
2) A gunner in a transport spots you. Seriously, they have better guns than the nose gun of the gunship (P.s. gun gun gun)
3) Someone spots you with Titan AA. Obvious there.
4) Someone in the AA position of a walker spots you. Same as AA site, only more deadly.
5) Another gunship spots you. Ironically, the only thing 1 salvo of missiles will take down is another gunship...
6) Anyone on the opposing team has the SAAW. 2 shots, down you go.
7) Lightpoles. The best AA for gunships ever implemented.
8) You hover for even a moment to let your gunner kill someone, only to be hit by a Sudnik/Mitchell/Pilum shot.
9) An APC is in the area, EMP -> Gun -> Boom.

I once had 19 kills with a gunship on Titan mode... I was absolutely robbed twice... I could've saved myself months of strife. All because a teamate wanted a LMG kill, and a APC surviving a salvo, only to EMP and gun me to death...

I still curse that round.
If all your shots from a salvo hit, they will kill any Non-Walker Vehicle
ZCaliber
Member
+12|6959|Between Canada and Iowa
There are very few drivers out there that are stupid enough to not throw their shield up when they're taking damage.

Therefor you cannot take any vehicle, besides a FAV and a gunship (Takes 'em out too quickly to put up their shield) with 1 salvo.
Dex Luther
Member
+32|6885|Canukastan

Sarrk wrote:

Nerfed

Your access to the new thread button

Upgrades

The search button, for some reason, it just doesnt seem to be big enough that retards like you cannot find simliar threads, maybe it should pulse when you type something thats already been posted
Your skill - Your a fucking whinny cry baby and should learn to play, this game is balanced, the only things that remotely need fixing are AA and the Ganz

Do you have your 2142 CD nearby? If so, take it, and swallow it - whole
It's funny how you say the game is well balanced and we're whiney babies, but then you say that the ganz and AA need fixing. If the Ganz and AA need fixing, then the game isn't as balanced as you say it is.

Secondly, why would what you say needs fixing hold more validity than what we're suggesting?
Dex Luther
Member
+32|6885|Canukastan

Invaderzim wrote:

AR rockets>support gunners in corridors leading to consloles
You have to turn the corner to launch your rocket, and if you do that you'll be taken out by the million sentry guns that are there.
straz_mataz
Banned
+86|6982|Edmonton Alberta
i just remembered something that needs to be changed the
pds-1 looks esactly like a uav- needs to be changed to a different color or something probably wont though
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6994|Doncaster, UK
I'd love them to make an addition to the commo rose for recon to include a "CLEAR THE AREA, EXPLOSIVES PRIMED" or something along those lines.

I'm totally fed up of placing RDX on a titan console and then have someone standing next to it trying to knife it who won't get the hell out fo the way. I might have to figure out a way of adding a stupidly long warning to a key on my keyboard so I can spam it.
CackNBallz
Member
+45|7190|Toronto, Canada
HAHA!!! I have seen guys that have run out of ammo just knifing the core too.  Does it do any damage at all?
InfectiousShadow
BF2S Resident Bass Player
+45|6879|Washington State, USA
i dont think so
CackNBallz
Member
+45|7190|Toronto, Canada
He's just dulling his knife into a two- or three-hit kill weapon.  Stupid.
link52787
Member
+29|6969
nothing needs to be nerfed.  Its fine as it is.  The mgs are accurate but if you had an assault rifle and fast reaction you should be able to take him down.  I use the sniper rifle most of the time so I am pretty far away.

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